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What do you choose?

Date the Mafia Queen, marry Annie, kill Felicie
5
10%
Date the Mafia Queen, marry Felicie, kill Annie
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19%
Date Annie, marry the Mafia Queen, kill Felicie
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8%
Date Annie, marry Felicie, kill the Mafia Queen
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2%
Date Felicie, marry the Mafia Queen, kill Annie
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40%
Date Felicie, marry Annie, kill the Mafia Queen
10
21%
 
Total votes : 48

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Postby Aggicificicerous » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:02 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Your answer doesn't work because its based on the premise of a previous thread, not the premise of this thread

In this thread, the Mafia Queen killed the Antihero and Annie won the war against the Allies. Its explicitly stated in the OP.

If you said, "well I do X because I HOPE that in the future Annie MIGHT still lose another round of warfare and the Mafia Queen MIGHT eventually get undone/killed by a second Antihero (betting on this possibility)"... then I wouldn't fault your answer whatsoever

but you said, "X happens, therefore I do Y" then X isn't the premise of this thread but that of a previous thread

I'm okay with answers I don't like if they follow the rules of the OP and are not against the spirit of the OP (if they are, then its my obligation to use my powers of clarification otherwise the whole scenario may break down)


Genocidal maniacs have a tendency to meet with nasty ends. I'm just playing the odds. If Annie were the witch queen of some developing nation nobody cares about, I would have killed her instead. But she's in Europe, a continent powerful people care about. It's only a matter of time before she's assassinated or defeated.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:08 pm

Aggicificicerous wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Your answer doesn't work because its based on the premise of a previous thread, not the premise of this thread

In this thread, the Mafia Queen killed the Antihero and Annie won the war against the Allies. Its explicitly stated in the OP.

If you said, "well I do X because I HOPE that in the future Annie MIGHT still lose another round of warfare and the Mafia Queen MIGHT eventually get undone/killed by a second Antihero (betting on this possibility)"... then I wouldn't fault your answer whatsoever

but you said, "X happens, therefore I do Y" then X isn't the premise of this thread but that of a previous thread

I'm okay with answers I don't like if they follow the rules of the OP and are not against the spirit of the OP (if they are, then its my obligation to use my powers of clarification otherwise the whole scenario may break down)


Genocidal maniacs have a tendency to meet with nasty ends. I'm just playing the odds. If Annie were the witch queen of some developing nation nobody cares about, I would have killed her instead. But she's in Europe, a continent powerful people care about. It's only a matter of time before she's assassinated or defeated.


Hmmmm...

This is okay

If phrased this way (as a tactical bet with calculated uncertainty), it’s consistent with the rules. You believe that although she is victorious and in control Of Europe, there’s a substantially strong probability of future defeat/death based on your own observation of history etc...
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Postby Len Hyet » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:16 pm

That was an incredibly long setup for a bang marry kill game.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:17 pm

Len Hyet wrote:That was an incredibly long setup for a bang marry kill game.


It is kind of long

But I wanted to include enough info so reading of the other three threads is unecessary :)

The premises also had to be changed a bit from the other threads and the rules as clear as possible

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Postby Len Hyet » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:19 pm

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Len Hyet wrote:That was an incredibly long setup for a bang marry kill game.


It is kind of long

But I wanted to include enough info so reading of the other three threads is unecessary :)

The premises also had to be changed a bit from the other threads and the rules as clear as possible


Right but like... it's still just a game of fuck marry kill or bang marry kill or date marry kill or whatever you prefer to call it.

It's just... three threads of setup. For a game of bang marry kill.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:41 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
It is kind of long

But I wanted to include enough info so reading of the other three threads is unecessary :)

The premises also had to be changed a bit from the other threads and the rules as clear as possible


Right but like... it's still just a game of fuck marry kill or bang marry kill or date marry kill or whatever you prefer to call it.

It's just... three threads of setup. For a game of bang marry kill.


It’s too anticlimactic?

What other type of “crossover” would you recommend?

I’m unlikely to launch another thread involving these people for at least 6-7 months but I’m open to ideas

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:43 pm

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Len Hyet wrote:
Right but like... it's still just a game of fuck marry kill or bang marry kill or date marry kill or whatever you prefer to call it.

It's just... three threads of setup. For a game of bang marry kill.


It’s too anticlimactic?

What other type of “crossover” would you recommend?

I’m unlikely to launch another thread involving these people for at least 6-7 months but I’m open to ideas

Don’t. No more crossovers or any more hypotheticals, especially those involving these people
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:11 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
It’s too anticlimactic?

What other type of “crossover” would you recommend?

I’m unlikely to launch another thread involving these people for at least 6-7 months but I’m open to ideas

Don’t. No more crossovers or any more hypotheticals, especially those involving these people


why? you don't like these characters used in the hypotheticals? Why not? do you have suggestions for improving?

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:17 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Don’t. No more crossovers or any more hypotheticals, especially those involving these people


why? you don't like these characters used in the hypotheticals? Why not? do you have suggestions for improving?

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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:36 pm

why do i have to choose between 2 bad people and 1 mediocre bad people

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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:41 pm

I object to all three because one is a genocidal maniac, another is a ganglord and a disney princess and i end up having my destiny easily control i don't want, and another is a mean girl character bum i want a girl who is semi-independent but at least so i can take care of her

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:41 pm

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:46 pm

Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:I object to all three because one is a genocidal maniac, another is a ganglord and a disney princess and i end up having my destiny easily control i don't want, and another is a mean girl character bum i want a girl who is semi-independent but at least so i can take care of her


it is designed to have trade offs

for instance, the Mafia Queen and Annie are "independent" and "strong" with large amounts of wealth... but they are also more immoral. Furthermore, you can argue there is a higher risk-reward (ex Mafia Queen and Annie both have many many enemies, although powerful, they might go down later and you with them)

Felicie is "nicer" and more playful but she's also more of a traditional housewife and she expects you to be 100% economic earner; its the price to pay for a "normal life"

hence its how you reason around this within the rules thats interesting to me

there are definitely trade offs and no ideal solution

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:47 pm

Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:why do i have to choose between 2 bad people and 1 mediocre bad people


you can think of it as an NS issue with 6 options except you get to write about why you chose which option =)

there's no ideal choice

its all personal

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Postby Forsher » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:38 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You’re just figuring this out now?


Honestly, sir Forsher is making a lot of sense

They are 100 percent correct; the analysis is completely on point


It's entirely possible we're just more likeminded than is generally suggested. Which is to say... I've seen you compared to several posters, none of which are me.
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Postby Nocturnalis » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:46 pm

Easy.

Date Felicie, I'm sure we can find some common ground in both being Quebecois, even if she does live in Victoria. And having to suffer such a pretentious person only once is probably the least risk out of all three. Date then dump, because Felicie is clearly not marriage material.

Kill Annie, no way in hell am I dating or marrying a substance abuser. Although I do wonder if her regime will continue to function after she's gone, but most of her work's already been done so it matters little.

Marry the Mafia Queen. Pretty obvious, really.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:47 pm

Nocturnalis wrote:Easy.

Date Felicie, I'm sure we can find some common ground in both being Quebecois, even if she does live in Victoria. And having to suffer such a pretentious person only once is probably the least risk out of all three.

Kill Annie, no way in hell am I dating or marrying a substance abuser. Although I do wonder if her regime will continue to function after she's gone, but most of her work's already been done so it matters little.

Marry the Mafia Queen. Pretty obvious, really.


LOL

This is harsh =)

But yes, I agree with your choice personally; I voted same

do you have a bad past experience with someone with substance abuse?
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Infected Mushroom wrote:LOL

This is harsh =)

But yes, I agree with your choice personally; I voted same

do you have a bad past experience with someone with substance abuse?

Not "bad" per se, but the experiences I've had with people using such substances have left much to be desired.

My teetotalism in regards to alcohol comes from many different factors. Firstly, taste: from the classiest wine to the trashiest beer, it all tastes like the same rotten crap to me. Secondly, expense: alcohol is quite expensive compared to normal drinks, and all for something that tastes so much worse...what's the point? Finally, seeing and hearing stories of what such substances do to people (not even people I know) has lended itself well to a teetotalist mindset.

Same goes for recreational drugs and tobacco - my grandmother died of lung cancer brought about by decades of smoking, kinda put me off on that (nevermind the smell, effects on health, etc.). My Reason tells me that using such substances (alcohol, tobacco, drugs) is deleterious to one's health, directly or indirectly, and that avoiding them is the preferred path. So I would have no reason to date or marry someone whose habits would constantly frustrate me and impact my own life, and with whom I could never reconcile with.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:03 am

Nocturnalis wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:LOL

This is harsh =)

But yes, I agree with your choice personally; I voted same

do you have a bad past experience with someone with substance abuse?

Not "bad" per se, but the experiences I've had with people using such substances have left much to be desired.

My teetotalism in regards to alcohol comes from many different factors. Firstly, taste: from the classiest wine to the trashiest beer, it all tastes like the same rotten crap to me. Secondly, expense: alcohol is quite expensive compared to normal drinks, and all for something that tastes so much worse...what's the point? Finally, seeing and hearing stories of what such substances do to people (not even people I know) has lended itself well to a teetotalist mindset.

Same goes for recreational drugs and tobacco - my grandmother died of lung cancer brought about by decades of smoking, kinda put me off on that (nevermind the smell, effects on health, etc.). My Reason tells me that using such substances (alcohol, tobacco, drugs) is deleterious to one's health, directly or indirectly, and that avoiding them is the preferred path. So I would have no reason to date or marry someone whose habits would constantly frustrate me and impact my own life, and with whom I could never reconcile with.


I see...

This makes sense

I was a strong Prohibitionist but then I got corrupted by alcohol. Now I no longer stand on sufficient moral ground to demandd a ban anymore (even though on balance it’s still a public safety issue). I have grown addicted to the taste (especially of rice wines and reds). The entire world spinning around is also a lot of fun; you’re underwater except not really.

Annie’s abuse of substances is “medium level.” Take that as you will.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:20 am

Forsher wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Honestly, sir Forsher is making a lot of sense

They are 100 percent correct; the analysis is completely on point


It's entirely possible we're just more likeminded than is generally suggested. Which is to say... I've seen you compared to several posters, none of which are me.


I see...

What you describe in the previous posts is exactly how I would participate in other people’s hypotheticals (dos and donts)

It’s like a presentation of a code I’ve followed all my life for these

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Postby Forsher » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:37 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Forsher wrote:
It's entirely possible we're just more likeminded than is generally suggested. Which is to say... I've seen you compared to several posters, none of which are me.


I see...

What you describe in the previous posts is exactly how I would participate in other people’s hypotheticals (dos and donts)

It’s like a presentation of a code I’ve followed all my life for these


Let me guess what just happened here.

You read this post not long after I posted it and thought you might reply to it but held off so you could use it as a means of low key bumping the thread?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:56 am

Forsher wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I see...

What you describe in the previous posts is exactly how I would participate in other people’s hypotheticals (dos and donts)

It’s like a presentation of a code I’ve followed all my life for these


Let me guess what just happened here.

You read this post not long after I posted it and thought you might reply to it but held off so you could use it as a means of low key bumping the thread?


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Postby Page » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:10 am

I find it somewhat bewildering that despite the fact that in IM's canon, Annie started World War 3 and killed millions of people, more people responding to this thread are bringing up the fact that she does some drugs as the disqualifying factor.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:16 am

Page wrote:I find it somewhat bewildering that despite the fact that in IM's canon, Annie started World War 3 and killed millions of people, more people responding to this thread are bringing up the fact that she does some drugs as the disqualifying factor.


I’m shocked too. I mean I thought this forum was pro drugs.

Earlier someone said something about being pro drugs in general but anti drug/Prohibitionist where loved ones are concerned...

I don’t understand

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