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A Hypothetical Involving Three

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What do you choose?

Date the Mafia Queen, marry Annie, kill Felicie
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10%
Date the Mafia Queen, marry Felicie, kill Annie
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19%
Date Annie, marry the Mafia Queen, kill Felicie
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8%
Date Annie, marry Felicie, kill the Mafia Queen
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2%
Date Felicie, marry the Mafia Queen, kill Annie
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40%
Date Felicie, marry Annie, kill the Mafia Queen
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21%
 
Total votes : 48

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A Hypothetical Involving Three

Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:51 pm

Please consider the following hypothetical:

The hypothetical involves three ladies from three previous NSG hypotheticals threads.

The Mafia Queen (from “Antihero Scenario”)
Annie Holstadt (from “Life Sentence or Death Sentence???”)
Felicie (from “Party Gone South”)

This is a self-contained hypothetical, no reading of the prior threads is required (everything you need to know is in this thread). Some facts have been changed to make this hypothetical work.

The moral dilemma is very simple (yet very complex). You are required make decisions (right now) regarding the following three actions which will be carried out in this exact order:

1. Date (just once) one of the 3 characters, this is a "non-serious" date where both sides are looking to fool around
2. Marry one of the 3 characters
3. Tell a Death God to have one of the 3 characters killed


You must choose a different character for each of the three tasks. Each character may only be chosen once. Those are the rules.

A sample answer might look like:

John chooses to date the Mafia Queen, marry Annie Holstadt, and have the Death God kill Felicie.


The following IMPORTANT rules/assumptions apply:

You must pick a different character for each category.

For the marriage, you are not allowed to cheat, separate, or divorce from the wife (this is a lifelong ride, choose wisely). Also, you will be required to abide by a generalized duty of loyalty to the wife. It is assumed that the wife will agree to your marriage proposal.

The Death God will kill whoever you ask him to kill (only one character).

None of the women will accept an open or otherwise non exclusive relationship nor will they consider killing each other for you.


To facilitate your decision-making, I have provided the following information regarding the characters and their respective organizations:

Aurora Von Staufer, “the Mafia Queen”/”Ole Queenie” (age 26)

Bio:
The Mafia Queen is the leader of the world’s most powerful criminal organization with heavy influence over the US government. Considered royalty by the underworld, the Mafia Queen has the appearance of a Disney princess but has a highly vindictive and ruthless personality; most infamously, when Mr. Antihero killed her sister in a black ops mission… the Mafia Queen retaliated by ordering the deaths of not just Mr. Antihero, but that of his entire family (including children). An army of hired assassins subsequently killed Mr. Antihero. Her organization is involved in drug trafficking, murder, and all sorts of criminal enterprises.

The Mafia Queen has amassed a massive illegal fortune; she lives a very privileged upper-class lifestyle and has an army of servants. She agrees to subsidize any business plans or lifestyle you may wish for (within reason). If you wish to stay outside of the underworld life, she will respect your decision to do so. Because you have no royal blood, your marriage will not grant you any power in the crime family.

The Mafia Queen is haunted by the premature death of her sister with whom she was very close to. The Mafia Queen is estranged from the rest of her family. She suffers from periodic bouts of depression.

The Mafia Queen looks like:
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Annie Holstadt, “Witch Annie/Queen of Europe” (age 29)

Bio:
Originally from Norway, Annie Holstadt is the victorious magical Queen of Europe. She is the witch queen dictator of all of Europe including European Russia. Annie is one of only 100 people in the world gifted with magic; she is more magically powerful than the next 50 magic users combined. Magic in this universe, is restricted to the use of combat and healing only.

Annie has a genocidal hatred of all non-Europeans (triggered by a combination of right wing extremist indoctrination and mental instability after surviving a near death experience in Rome involving terrorists). Her regime is genocidal and has already killed 12 million non-Europeans; some of those millions were killed by her soldiers, others by Annie herself using her magic. Having won the war against the Allies, Annie is satisfied with her current territorial holdings and has stopped waging wars of conquest. However, she will not rest until Europe is completely “purified.”

If you marry Annie, Annie will allow you to take part as a major politician/general/administrator figure in her regime as high up as second in command. However, if you want absolutely nothing to do with politics, she will respect that and let you do your own thing. She will support you financially and politically (within reason).

Annie has a troubled past. She was born an orphan, went through abusive foster homes, and currently suffers from periodic depression and anxiety. She suffers from PTSD. In addition, Annie is a medium level substance abuser (both alcohol and drugs).

Annie Holstadt looks like:
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Felicie Delacroix (Age 26)

Felicie Delacroix is a red-haired Quebecois woman who lives in Victoria.

She has a liberal arts degree but no work experience.

Felicie lives off the trust funds from her deceased aunt’s royalties (from writing a popular French pop song). She focuses 100% of her attention on her appearance, expensive clothes/jewelry shopping, and comfort activities such as massages. If you marry her, she expects you to be the only Earner in the family and to support her with 100% of your finances and income.

She enjoys going to parties where she can draw attention to herself with her expensive clothes and her physical beauty. Her hobbies include dancing, photography, gossip, and playing cruel pranks on people. Her antics at a British Columbian farmhouse party are still spoken about to this day…



And that’s it folks.

TLDR:

Basically, you have to date 1 character once (a fool around date), marry 1 character, and kill 1 character. Explain your personal, moral, philosophical justifications. Please keep in mind the italicised rules above.

I am very interested to hear what you choose and why for every question.

The OP reserves the right to edit/clarify the OP in light of the complexity of the scenario and the questions.

My answer:

I choose to date Felicie, marry the Mafia Queen, and have the Shinigami write the name of Annie Holstadt in the Notebook of Death.

I choose to date Felicie because she doesn't deserve to die and marriage to her sounds like it would be a terrible bargain.

Annie dies because she has murdered the largest number of people.

By process of elimination what is left is marriage to the Mafia Queen. Even if it “doesn’t work out,” she “promised” to support my plans and my lifestyle so I’ll assume there’s a good chance I’ll be decently well off. As per the rules I cannot separate nor divorce but there are plenty of tangible material benefits to staying in the relationship.
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Postby Dogmeat » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:57 pm

This isn't an "ultimate nightmare"

It doesn't even have spiders with syringe-legs or flying-facehugger-corpse-vaginas.

2/10. Would not nightmare.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:58 pm

Need a tl;dr version, because I'm not gonna read through all this nonsense.

Also hypothetical nightmare scenario isn't even that scary, from what I've glossed over.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:59 pm

I choose to kill myself so that I don't have to read any more of these ridiculous moral dilemma scenarios.

Infected Mushroom wrote:The OP reserves the right to edit/clarify the OP in light of the complexity of the scenario and the questions.

That's not how this works.
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Postby Dogmeat » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:59 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:Need a tl;dr version, because I'm not gonna read through all this nonsense.

Also hypothetical nightmare scenario isn't even that scary, from what I've glossed over.

It's basically "fuck, marry, kill" with 3 villains.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:02 pm

Dogmeat wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Need a tl;dr version, because I'm not gonna read through all this nonsense.

Also hypothetical nightmare scenario isn't even that scary, from what I've glossed over.

It's basically "fuck, marry, kill" with 3 villains.

Specifically: Mafia Queen, Overdressed Bitch Who Fell in the Mud, and Witch Hitler.
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Postby Dogmeat » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:07 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:It's basically "fuck, marry, kill" with 3 villains.

Specifically: Mafia Queen, Overdressed Bitch Who Fell in the Mud, and Witch Hitler.

And - sorry to keep harping on this - not all that nightmareish.

We could do a lot worse, even with Disney villains. Fuck, Marry, Kill. Your options are:
1) Ursula
2) Scar
3) Te Ka
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:08 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:Need a tl;dr version, because I'm not gonna read through all this nonsense.

Also hypothetical nightmare scenario isn't even that scary, from what I've glossed over.


Fair enough...

TLDR added in red.

Title edited to avoid controversy

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:09 pm

Dogmeat wrote:This isn't an "ultimate nightmare"

It doesn't even have spiders with syringe-legs or flying-facehugger-corpse-vaginas.

2/10. Would not nightmare.


Fair enough

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Postby Freezic Vast » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:10 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:It's basically "fuck, marry, kill" with 3 villains.

Specifically: Mafia Queen, Overdressed Bitch Who Fell in the Mud, and Witch Hitler.

That's not a nightmare scenario and the choices would be quite easy.

Fuck: Overdressed and muddy bitch
Marry: Mafia Queen
Kill: Witch Hitler
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:14 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Specifically: Mafia Queen, Overdressed Bitch Who Fell in the Mud, and Witch Hitler.

That's not a nightmare scenario and the choices would be quite easy.

Fuck: Overdressed and muddy bitch
Marry: Mafia Queen
Kill: Witch Hitler

I was gonna say, Mud Girl would probably be a great one-night stand.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:21 pm

Since people are more familiar with a Date, Marry, Kill setup and it works for my purposes, I've changed it to that.

Please note the changes to the OP.

Thanks for the feedback
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Postby Aggicificicerous » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:22 pm

This should be entertaining.

I kill the mafia queen. She's the type to die a nasty death anyway. I marry the genocidal witch queen. She's about to be either executed or thrown in jail, after her powers are drained, and that means I'll be rid of her soon enough.

Infected Mushroom wrote:
For the marriage, you are not allowed to cheat, separate, or divorce from the wife (this is a lifelong ride, choose wisely). Also, you will be required to abide by a generalized duty of loyalty to the wife. It is assumed that the wife will agree to your marriage proposal.


Yeah, I don't think so.

I date the annoyingly stereotypical Quebecois girl because I don't want to deal with her more than once.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:41 pm

This is a rather elaborate form of the "fuck, marry, kill" game.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:31 pm

Aggicificicerous wrote:This should be entertaining.

I kill the mafia queen. She's the type to die a nasty death anyway. I marry the genocidal witch queen. She's about to be either executed or thrown in jail, after her powers are drained, and that means I'll be rid of her soon enough.

Infected Mushroom wrote:
For the marriage, you are not allowed to cheat, separate, or divorce from the wife (this is a lifelong ride, choose wisely). Also, you will be required to abide by a generalized duty of loyalty to the wife. It is assumed that the wife will agree to your marriage proposal.


Yeah, I don't think so.

I date the annoyingly stereotypical Quebecois girl because I don't want to deal with her more than once.


Why do you find the Quebecois girl stereotypical?

I kind of want to promote varied answers so I won’t point out the flaws with your answers. If you read the witch bio you’ll notice the facts are different. :)
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Postby Parhe » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:41 pm

As someone with no traces of European ancestry, I don't think I have much a choice in who I kill, unless I actually plan on being killed.
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Postby Aggicificicerous » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:56 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Why do you find the Quebecois girl stereotypical?


Haven't we had enough stories involving snobby French/Quebecois people?

Infected Mushroom wrote:I kind of want to promote varied answers so I won’t point out the flaws with your answers. If you read the witch bio you’ll notice the facts are different. :)


Oh, I read her bio. I just went with the narrative I preferred.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:12 am

Kill Annie, date mafia queen, marry felicie.

Surprisingly enough, figuring out who to kill was easiest.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:20 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:Kill Annie, date mafia queen, marry felicie.

Surprisingly enough, figuring out who to kill was easiest.


You don’t like Disney princesses?

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:24 am

Aggicificicerous wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Why do you find the Quebecois girl stereotypical?


Haven't we had enough stories involving snobby French/Quebecois people?

Infected Mushroom wrote:I kind of want to promote varied answers so I won’t point out the flaws with your answers. If you read the witch bio you’ll notice the facts are different. :)


Oh, I read her bio. I just went with the narrative I preferred.


It’s ironic because I’m originally from Quebec myself

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Postby Western-Ukraine » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:26 am

I choose to marry the Mafia Queen. That's because Annie uses alcohol and drugs, and Felicie seems untrustworthy and completely unlike me. However, I'd date Felicie for sure. That leaves me with Annie for the "Shinigami" to handle. She has it coming regardless, since I supported executing her already.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:27 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:Kill Annie, date mafia queen, marry felicie.

Surprisingly enough, figuring out who to kill was easiest.


You don’t like Disney princesses?


She's alright, it was a tough choice. In the end, playing pranks on people is what I love too, so :)
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:31 am

I marry Felicie. Yeah, she’s not exactly a wonderful person, but you know what? She cleared the lowest possible bar: Not a murderer.

Date the Mafia Queen. I mean, I’m likely to have my legs chopped off when the break-up happens, and I’ll definitely have to move to another town, but it seems like she’d be the most unpredictable and fun to hang with. Just not a long-term relationship.

Annie still gets the guillotine.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:37 am

Kowani wrote:I marry Felicie. Yeah, she’s not exactly a wonderful person, but you know what? She cleared the lowest possible bar: Not a murderer.

Date the Mafia Queen. I mean, I’m likely to have my legs chopped off when the break-up happens, and I’ll definitely have to move to another town, but it seems like she’d be the most unpredictable and fun to hang with. Just not a long-term relationship.

Annie still gets the guillotine.


This is a very interesting alternate position...

you would be okay with being the 100% economic earner?

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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:40 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Kowani wrote:I marry Felicie. Yeah, she’s not exactly a wonderful person, but you know what? She cleared the lowest possible bar: Not a murderer.

Date the Mafia Queen. I mean, I’m likely to have my legs chopped off when the break-up happens, and I’ll definitely have to move to another town, but it seems like she’d be the most unpredictable and fun to hang with. Just not a long-term relationship.

Annie still gets the guillotine.


This is a very interesting alternate position...

you would be okay with being the 100% economic earner?

I’d probably grumble a bit, knowing myself, but I’d get over it. However, I suspect my salary wouldn’t allow her to live in anything approaching luxury.
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