Brazil Second Presidential N Paliament Elections 2018 Genral

[San Lumen]

and that is a problem with democracy. The enemy of democracy can be the people themselves., In my view the planet comes before the needs of the people. Without the Amazon the planet is uninhabitable. Sometimes who the people chose should not be allowed to take office.Someone like Bolsonaro has no business being a leader.

So basically the will and needs of the people are less important than the environment. Sure let people die in streets and let crime and corruption rise, who cares if it descends into anarchy and chaos, as long as they don't pick and choose a right winger because I don't agree with their policies. Proof you don't care about people unless they agree with you or democracy unless it's your side who wins.

Yeah screw the planet.

I never said to let people die in the street.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

and that is a problem with democracy. The enemy of democracy can be the people themselves., In my view the planet comes before the needs of the people. Without the Amazon the planet is uninhabitable. Sometimes who the people chose should not be allowed to take office.Someone like Bolsonaro has no business being a leader.

So basically the will and needs of the people are less important than the environment. Sure let people die in streets and let crime and corruption rise, who cares if it descends into anarchy and chaos, as long as they don't pick and choose a right winger because I don't agree with their policies. Proof you don't care about people unless they agree with you or democracy unless it's your side who wins.

If Bolsonaro's administration actually manages to reduce crime and corruption without bulldozing the Mata Atlântica or converting the Brazilian Amazon into a cattle feedlot, I guess we aren't completely fucked. Let's hope this guy's more of a Duterte than a Trump.

[NS Miami Shores]

Damn you guys are still going lol. Personally, my alternative didn't get past the first round of elections, so what I can actually do now is hope for the best for Bolsonaro and his government, given he's my President whether I like it or not. I've seen a lot of people pretty much wishing his leadership fails without realizing we have already been through too much shit

Question?
Ok so while you don't support him as your choice, how sure are you that he wont become a dictator of the Right like the dictators of the left I posted about Fidel, Raúl, Diaz-Canel of Cuba and the eternal Revolution, Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela and the Eternal Revolution of Venezuela, Daniel Orteaga of Nicaragua again, and now it looks like Evo of Bolivia wants to join his 5 closest Amigos, see Rio Cana's thread.

I posted the Poll to encougage discussion of issue of the Datafolha Poll:
Brazilians concerns of a new military dictatorship even a majoriy of them said they would vote for him?

[San Lumen]

So basically the will and needs of the people are less important than the environment. Sure let people die in streets and let crime and corruption rise, who cares if it descends into anarchy and chaos, as long as they don't pick and choose a right winger because I don't agree with their policies. Proof you don't care about people unless they agree with you or democracy unless it's your side who wins.

If Bolsonaro's administration actually manages to reduce crime and corruption without bulldozing the Mata Atlântica or converting the Brazilian Amazon into a cattle feedlot, I guess we aren't completely fucked. Let's hope this guy's more of a Duterte than a Trump.

He should not be allowed to take office. The possible destruction of the Amazon is something the world cannot afford.

[Freezic Vast]

So basically the will and needs of the people are less important than the environment. Sure let people die in streets and let crime and corruption rise, who cares if it descends into anarchy and chaos, as long as they don't pick and choose a right winger because I don't agree with their policies. Proof you don't care about people unless they agree with you or democracy unless it's your side who wins.

Yeah screw the planet.

I never said to let people die in the street.

Human needs are more important.

You implied it.

[Freezic Vast]

If Bolsonaro's administration actually manages to reduce crime and corruption without bulldozing the Mata Atlântica or converting the Brazilian Amazon into a cattle feedlot, I guess we aren't completely fucked. Let's hope this guy's more of a Duterte than a Trump.

He should not be allowed to take office. The possible destruction of the Amazon is something the world cannot afford.

Why not, the people voted for him, why do you hate democracy?

[Pasong Tirad]

So basically the will and needs of the people are less important than the environment. Sure let people die in streets and let crime and corruption rise, who cares if it descends into anarchy and chaos, as long as they don't pick and choose a right winger because I don't agree with their policies. Proof you don't care about people unless they agree with you or democracy unless it's your side who wins.

If Bolsonaro's administration actually manages to reduce crime and corruption without bulldozing the Mata Atlântica or converting the Brazilian Amazon into a cattle feedlot, I guess we aren't completely fucked. Let's hope this guy's more of a Duterte than a Trump.

Neither of those options are good things. Duterte has no more love for the environment than any other Philippine bigwig.

[Senkaku]

So basically the will and needs of the people are less important than the environment.

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I mean, actually, when you put it like that, yeah. Unless you've got a spare planet we can all hop over to when this one becomes inhospitable to organized societies or completely uninhabitable?

[San Lumen]

Yeah screw the planet.

I never said to let people die in the street.

Human needs are more important.

You implied it.

They are equally important

He should not be allowed to take office. The possible destruction of the Amazon is something the world cannot afford.

Why not, the people voted for him, why do you hate democracy?

And the people voted for Duerte in the Philippines and tens of thousands have died.

[Torrocca]

Yeah screw the planet.

I never said to let people die in the street.

Human needs are more important.

You implied it.

Human needs won't mean anything if we all fucking die in the biggest ecological disaster of this Earth's history.

The Amazon rainforest produces something like 20% of all the Earth's oxygen, so any fucking deregulation that comes of this bullshit - combined with the continuing acidification of the oceans - is gonna kill us at the end of the day if we don't do anything.

[Senkaku]

So basically the will and needs of the people are less important than the environment. Sure let people die in streets and let crime and corruption rise, who cares if it descends into anarchy and chaos, as long as they don't pick and choose a right winger because I don't agree with their policies. Proof you don't care about people unless they agree with you or democracy unless it's your side who wins.

If Bolsonaro's administration actually manages to reduce crime and corruption without bulldozing the Mata Atlântica or converting the Brazilian Amazon into a cattle feedlot, I guess we aren't completely fucked. Let's hope this guy's more of a Duterte than a Trump.

Frankly, let's hope that some miraculous event occurs and he's unable to take office, since the Duterte option means tens of thousands of murders and the Trump option means massacring the planet and neither option does shit about problems like rampant corruption and political gridlock.

[San Lumen]

Human needs are more important.

You implied it.

Human needs won't mean anything if we all fucking die in the biggest ecological disaster of this Earth's history.

The Amazon rainforest produces something like 20% of all the Earth's oxygen, so any fucking deregulation that comes of this bullshit - combined with the continuing acidification of the oceans - is gonna kill us at the end of the day if we don't do anything.

And the people of Brazil said we don't care. He should not allowed to take office but sadly he will. If was head of the military id depose him minutes after taking office.

[United Dixieland Territories]

I'm laughing at the glance of half of the posters here that have clearly not read the textbook definition of fascism before hurling shit at bolsonaro

Bolsonaro will not be violating any NAP by choppering communists or reds, they are willfully government property after all.

[Freezic Vast]

Human needs are more important.

You implied it.

They are equally important

Why not, the people voted for him, why do you hate democracy?

And the people voted for Duerte in the Philippines and tens of thousands have died.

You never said that, you said the environment is more important.

[San Lumen]

They are equally important

And the people voted for Duerte in the Philippines and tens of thousands have died.

You never said that, you said the environment is more important.

It is. Do you have a spare planet we can all jump into a spaceship and head too via hyperspace?

[NS Miami Shores]

So basically the will and needs of the people are less important than the environment.

...

I mean, actually, when you put it like that, yeah. Unless you've got a spare planet we can all hop over to when this one becomes inhospitable to organized societies or completely uninhabitable?

The Problem is the interpretation of the will and needs of the people and the environment, vary considerably from the Far Right to the Far left.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

If Bolsonaro's administration actually manages to reduce crime and corruption without bulldozing the Mata Atlântica or converting the Brazilian Amazon into a cattle feedlot, I guess we aren't completely fucked. Let's hope this guy's more of a Duterte than a Trump.

He should not be allowed to take office. The possible destruction of the Amazon is something the world cannot afford.

We need to arm REDE with bazookas and bongs and coordinate a pro-Silva coup. Let's face it, Haddad will be no better than Bolsonaro on getting Brazilians to care about the environment.

[Freezic Vast]

You never said that, you said the environment is more important.

It is. Do you have a spare planet we can all jump into a spaceship and head too via hyperspace?

Except it's not.

Mars.

[Kubra]

caudillo-type fellow wins a latin american election, news at 11

[Torrocca]

It is. Do you have a spare planet we can all jump into a spaceship and head too via hyperspace?

Except it's not.

Mars.

We're a long ways away from anything remotely resembling a sustainable, self-sufficient colony on Mars.

Probably too long away to get to it before we die here.

[Senkaku]

Yeah screw the planet.

I never said to let people die in the street.

Human needs are more important.

Human needs like an environment that we can survive in, for example?

You're talking about people dying in the street from crime- and neglecting the potential for the whole fucking street to be underwater in a couple decades, or baking at 120 degrees Fahrenheit and 90% humidity, so that everyone in it would die.

[Senkaku]

It is. Do you have a spare planet we can all jump into a spaceship and head too via hyperspace?

Except it's not.

Mars.

Yes, we all know how much Trump and people like Bolsonaro love intellectuals and science and space programs.

[San Lumen]

It is. Do you have a spare planet we can all jump into a spaceship and head too via hyperspace?

Except it's not.

Mars.

Really? We should just cut down those forest as they are annoyance? Who cares if we pollute the air and water. Only money and my comforts matter. Screw the birds and fish. Long term thinking is a good thing and something you might try sometime.

Mars has a very thin atmosphere, no oxygen and is a barren desert. All the water is locked in the polar icecaps. Every Martian winter dust storms grow to cover the entire planet. It also barely hits Earth temperatures. On occasion it will hit 65 degrees Fahrenheit or so but its usually quite cold. I could go on and on. Terraforming or a colony on Mars is decades away. So how about we stop being so selfish and not screw up this beautiful planet?

[Freezic Vast]

Except it's not.

Mars.

Really? We should just cut down those forest as they are annoyance? Who cares if we pollute the air and water. Only money and my comforts matter. Screw the birds and fish. Long term thinking is a good thing and something you might try sometime.

Mars has a very thin atmosphere, no oxygen and is a barren desert. All the water is locked in the polar icecaps. Every Martian winter dust storms grow to cover the entire planet. It also barely hits Earth temperatures. On occasion it will hit 65 degrees or so but its usually quite cold. I could go on and on. Terraforming or a colony on Mars is decades away. So how about we stop being so selfish and not screw up this beautiful planet?

Things I didn't say for $1000 Alex.

Then stop letting people starve to death and let us build some more farms so people can eat.

[Senkaku]

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I mean, actually, when you put it like that, yeah. Unless you've got a spare planet we can all hop over to when this one becomes inhospitable to organized societies or completely uninhabitable?

The Problem is the interpretation of the will and needs of the people and the environment, vary considerably from the Far Right to the Far left.

I mean, the needs of the environment don't really vary, regardless of whatever bullshit interpretations people want to make up. Science is real and can tell us things about the world, and right now it's telling us not only that we're fucked, but that we're fucking ourselves even harder at this very moment.

He should not be allowed to take office. The possible destruction of the Amazon is something the world cannot afford.

We need to arm REDE with bazookas and bongs and coordinate a pro-Silva coup. Let's face it, Haddad will be no better than Bolsonaro on getting Brazilians to care about the environment.

United States UN Mandate for South America when tbh