Brazil Second Presidential N Paliament Elections 2018 Genral

[San Lumen]

Hey you're finally coming over to the authoritarian side, good job Lumen.

Just because certain citizens disagree with other citizens economically, politically and socially doesn't mean the people ought to be protected from themselves or need to be protected from themselves, it is called real democracy.

When the Amazon is destroyed you'll regret your vote but by then the planet will be fucked so it wont matter.

[Valrifell]

And you can't be a democracy if you follow every whim of the electorate. Then, democracy is impossible. Not following some measures of the voters is inherently more democratic than disenfranchising a part of the population.

Yeah, republics can be democracies, democracies can be republics. What I was describing is what's called a 'liberal democracy'. Don't let the 'liberal' scare you, though.

I really don't get where people are getting this idea that "democracy" and "republic" are mutually exclusive from.

Well, they got mad that their man wasnt technically democratically elected so had to field some bullshit reason why that's not actually a bad thing and, in fact, was a good thing.

[Trumptonium1]

Like stopping African Americans in Michigan from voting so they don't fuck themselves with another blue candidate. Right on buddy, I'm with ya. John James all the way.

You do know that John James is African American right?

you are aware he's republican right

[G-Tech Corporation]

Just because certain citizens disagree with other citizens economically, politically and socially doesn't mean the people ought to be protected from themselves or need to be protected from themselves, it is called real democracy.

When the Amazon is destroyed you'll regret your vote but by then the planet will be fucked so it wont matter.

Eh. We’ll just dump some iron in the ocean and call it good.

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[San Lumen]

You do know that John James is African American right?

you are aware he's republican right

Yes

[Northern Davincia]

> Implying this isn't right

PBUH!

[Petrasylvania]

There were way too many buzz words being thrown around during these elections, so much that I think the term "fascism" has been banalized. I'll give you all 3 months for you to realize it's going to stay the same. And no, there aren't going to be LGBT death squads.

Will he legalise furry hunting though?

Somebody got turned down by a furry I see.

[NS Miami Shores]

Just because certain citizens disagree with other citizens economically, politically and socially doesn't mean the people ought to be protected from themselves or need to be protected from themselves, it is called real democracy.

When the Amazon is destroyed you'll regret your vote but by then the planet will be fucked so it wont matter.

And in the mean time what do you suggest blocking Bolsonaro and Mourão from being President and Vice President of Brazil, after they won the democratic multi political party elections by a considerable majority of those voting.

[Petrasylvania]

With Bolsonaro’s victory it is time to say farewell to democracy in Brazil and even more sadly the Amazon rainforest. This will be a day remembered for generations to come. That’s if there even is a world for our children to inherit.

AH, well. Democracy's died in Latin America before, it always bounces back. Besides, the Social Liberals are second behind the PT in the Chamber and tied for 10th place in the Senate, so he'll still need a hefty coalition to get things done.

Can the same be said for the Amazon Forest?

[San Lumen]

When the Amazon is destroyed you'll regret your vote but by then the planet will be fucked so it wont matter.

And in the mean time what do you suggest blocking Bolsonaro and Mourão from being President and Vice President of Brazil, after they won the democratic multi political party elections by a considerable majority of those voting.

Yes I do

[G-Tech Corporation]

And in the mean time what do you suggest blocking Bolsonaro and Mourão from being President and Vice President of Brazil, after they won the democratic multi political party elections by a considerable majority of those voting.

Yes I do

Ah, that’s why you took to the streets to oppose Trump right.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

I think the Brazilians have made their own bed, so let them lie in it. Though I will make as much noise as possible if Bolsonaro starts recruiting death squads, which I half expect he will.

[Sovaal]

Just because certain citizens disagree with other citizens economically, politically and socially doesn't mean the people ought to be protected from themselves or need to be protected from themselves, it is called real democracy.

When the Amazon is destroyed you'll regret your vote but by then the planet will be fucked so it wont matter.

Planet's already fucked. Short of a complete disassembling of human civilization nothing will change, no matter how many wind farms are put up.

[San Lumen]

When the Amazon is destroyed you'll regret your vote but by then the planet will be fucked so it wont matter.

Planet's already fucked. Short of a complete disassembling of human civilization nothing will change, no matter how many wind farms are put up.

No it isnt. It can still be saved but time is limited

[Thermodolia]

The right wing is inherently better for the common man because things actually work under conservative policies.

1929 and 2008 say hi, and they kindly ask that you stop parroting Dennis Prager's bullshit.

Huh? I didn’t say that at all

[Chan Island]

It looks a bit like when you can make a referendum in Hoi4 to repeal democracy. Well, the people of Brazil have voted for the guy who is openly enthusiastic about the junta days, let's hope it works out for them. :/

[Second Empire of America]

You will have to start deciding which matters more to you, democracy, or liberalism. Tocqueville himself was also a supporter of both but was insightful enough to see their impending collision course.

I have thought about this long and hard, and the answer is Liberalism. Liberal Democracy is the best way to organize a society, but if forced to choose between the two, I would rather live in a Liberal Autocracy than an Illiberal Democracy. Democracy is the best form of government because it gives the best results in freedom and equality, but if it ceases giving the best results, then I will support a form of government that can do better. Autocratic governments are almost always more illiberal than democracies, but in this case, most of them aren't as blatantly evil as Bolsonaro.

[San Lumen]

It looks a bit like when you can make a referendum in Hoi4 to repeal democracy. Well, the people of Brazil have voted for the guy who is openly enthusiastic about the junta days, let's hope it works out for them. :/

and the planet

[Major-Tom]

It looks a bit like when you can make a referendum in Hoi4 to repeal democracy. Well, the people of Brazil have voted for the guy who is openly enthusiastic about the junta days, let's hope it works out for them. :/

It's a Bold Strategy.

[Uxupox]

Planet's already fucked. Short of a complete disassembling of human civilization nothing will change, no matter how many wind farms are put up.

No it isnt. It can still be saved but time is limited

how do you propose stopping the sun from exploding.

[San Lumen]

No it isnt. It can still be saved but time is limited

how do you propose stopping the sun from exploding.

Thats in five billion years. I was referring to climate change.

[Chan Island]

It looks a bit like when you can make a referendum in Hoi4 to repeal democracy. Well, the people of Brazil have voted for the guy who is openly enthusiastic about the junta days, let's hope it works out for them. :/

It's a Bold Strategy.

Oh yes. I suspect it won't, but there we go.

It looks a bit like when you can make a referendum in Hoi4 to repeal democracy. Well, the people of Brazil have voted for the guy who is openly enthusiastic about the junta days, let's hope it works out for them. :/

and the planet

Yup

No it isnt. It can still be saved but time is limited

how do you propose stopping the sun from exploding.

There are actually a range of options available if we had the technology to do so.

[Uxupox]

how do you propose stopping the sun from exploding.

Thats in five billion years. I was referring to climate change.

the planet is done for. the oily thing that is possible to maybe change is the time for when it ceases to exist.

[Proctopeo]

So basically the will and needs of the people are less important than the environment.

...

I mean, actually, when you put it like that, yeah. Unless you've got a spare planet we can all hop over to when this one becomes inhospitable to organized societies or completely uninhabitable?

True, but I find the idea of an environmentalist dictatorship unsavory.

[Uxupox]

It's a Bold Strategy.

Oh yes. I suspect it won't, but there we go.

and the planet

Yup

how do you propose stopping the sun from exploding.

There are actually a range of options available if we had the technology to do so.

how the hell are you going to crash a star to another star without make it go supernova?