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Brazil second round Presidential Elections Vote and Post

1 - We support Far Right Wing former army Captain Jair Bolsonaro and retired General Antonio Hamilton Mourão of the Far Right Wing Conservative Social Liberal Party of Brazil for President and Vice President of Brazil.
104
48%
2 - We support Fernando Haddad of the Far Leftist Workers Party of Brazil and Manuela D'avila of the Communist Party of Brazil, together we can win, for President and Vice President of Brazil.
74
34%
3 - We support neither candidates and we vote Blank Ballots, either candidates will be bad for Brazil and the Brazilian people.
37
17%
 
Total votes : 215

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:46 pm

On the plus side, this will give Maduro even less places to turn to prop up his failed government.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:57 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:On the plus side, this will give Maduro even less places to turn to prop up his failed government.

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Postby Kita-Hinode » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:00 pm

Dark Socialism wrote:I'm so glad that Bolsnaro won, hopefully he takes total control of Brazil


...Jesus, guys, why would you want us Brazilian folk under a dictatorship or stuff? I know we ain't exactly the greatest of forum folk but surely this is a little too much.

Look, as a guy that voted null because... well, just look at the bloody candidates. I wouldn't trust them with my oven, let alone the country I have to currently live at. There were simply no right answers. I don't expect Bolsonaro to go straight into a dictatorship, but I do expect a heavy amount of bollocks. Then again, I expected a heavy amount of bollocks from Haddad just as much. All I hope is that people do realize that the guy is a complete idiot and stop supporting him during the years, maybe then we can go for someone with half of a functional brain.

Then again, my trust in my neighbours is kind of rock bottom right about now so... yeah, this is going to suck.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:04 pm

Kita-Hinode wrote:
Dark Socialism wrote:I'm so glad that Bolsnaro won, hopefully he takes total control of Brazil


...Jesus, guys, why would you want us Brazilian folk under a dictatorship or stuff? I know we ain't exactly the greatest of forum folk but surely this is a little too much.


Hell, there's Brazilians right in this very thread that think Bolsonaro's regime will turn out to be a good thing.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:08 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:It would happen anyways (given Haddad's official proposal to burn the Constitution), I dont see your point in here :?:


Maintain your facade of believing in liberty by not choosing either cunt, then?


Whatever he chose to do was ultimately irrelevant, as we now see. Brazil will become far right and the far left there has only two choices it would seem; either go ahead and end it as honor would dictate it or flee into exile. Clearly Bolsonaro has a near supermajority of support and the reality of the world is that neither the U.S. nor China mind to support such an individual as their history and current politics show. If the Brazilian Left decides to stay, Bolsonaro can unleash the security services on them without fear and all that will happen is a lot of bodies filled with lead.

My recommendation to you, Torrocca, is, if you have any there, contact your Comrades and advise them of this. I wouldn't recommend you suggesting them come here, as we know how Trump would react. Perhaps you can suggest they flee to Venezuela perhaps? A slow death by starvation is perhaps better than granting Bolsonaro the joy of shooting them, afterall.
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Postby Kita-Hinode » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:08 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kita-Hinode wrote:
...Jesus, guys, why would you want us Brazilian folk under a dictatorship or stuff? I know we ain't exactly the greatest of forum folk but surely this is a little too much.


Hell, there's Brazilians right in this very thread that think Bolsonaro's regime will turn out to be a good thing.


Well, not going to go and assume their point of view, mostly because that's kind of rude, but I do imagine the only way this is good is because "it'll teach them children-eatin' commie bastards" or some shit like that. Then again, it's what they said about Lula back when he was an option, except it was more of a "well, he's a man of the folk".
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Postby Darussalam » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:08 pm

Kita-Hinode wrote:
Dark Socialism wrote:I'm so glad that Bolsnaro won, hopefully he takes total control of Brazil


...Jesus, guys, why would you want us Brazilian folk under a dictatorship or stuff? I know we ain't exactly the greatest of forum folk but surely this is a little too much.

If we're actually taking the rhetorics of both candidates at face value here, the alternative is unilateral repudiation of debt, mass nationalizations, property and land expropriation, and destructive socialist policies in general regardless of constitutional constraints.
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Postby Kita-Hinode » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:12 pm

Darussalam wrote:
Kita-Hinode wrote:
...Jesus, guys, why would you want us Brazilian folk under a dictatorship or stuff? I know we ain't exactly the greatest of forum folk but surely this is a little too much.

If we're actually taking the rhetorics of both candidates at face value here, the alternative is unilateral repudiation of debt, mass nationalizations, property and land expropriation, and destructive socialist policies in general regardless of constitutional constraints.


Kind of why I voted null to begin with. The actual alternative was, waaaaay back, voting on the sane options that were there. Not the guy with a chubby for dictatorships and Lula's backwards puppet. But hell, it's not like people considered that at any point.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:14 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kita-Hinode wrote:
...Jesus, guys, why would you want us Brazilian folk under a dictatorship or stuff? I know we ain't exactly the greatest of forum folk but surely this is a little too much.


Hell, there's Brazilians right in this very thread that think Bolsonaro's regime will turn out to be a good thing.

You can mention me, no need to hide my username after Ive called for an accurate forecast :)
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Postby Kita-Hinode » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:17 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Hell, there's Brazilians right in this very thread that think Bolsonaro's regime will turn out to be a good thing.

You can mention me, no need to hide my username after Ive called for an accurate forecast :)

Eh, I assumed people would be able to tell what I was talking about without being quoted.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:21 pm

Kita-Hinode wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:You can mention me, no need to hide my username after Ive called for an accurate forecast :)

Eh, I assumed people would be able to tell what I was talking about without being quoted.

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby NS Miami Shores » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:26 pm

Torrocca wrote:Hurrah. Fascism wins again.

Let's see how long it takes before Brazil's turned into a full-blown dictatorship.

Fernando Haddad of the Leftist Workers Party for President with With Manuela Pinto d'Ávila of the Communist Party of Brazil scares me more that she might influence her party's policies on Fernando Hadddad than.

Former Captain Jair Bolsonaro and and retired General Antônio Hamilton Mourão of the Far Right Conservative Social Liberal Party of Brazil as President and Vice President, that favors a capitalist economy of corporations and small private Businesses to improve the lives of all Brazilians.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:49 pm

NS Miami Shores wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Hurrah. Fascism wins again.

Let's see how long it takes before Brazil's turned into a full-blown dictatorship.

Fernando Haddad of the Leftist Workers Party for President with With Manuela Pinto d'Ávila of the Communist Party of Brazil scares me more that she might influence her party's policies on Fernando Hadddad than.

Former Captain Jair Bolsonaro and and retired General Antônio Hamilton Mourão of the Far Right Conservative Social Liberal Party of Brazil as President and Vice President, that favors a capitalist economy of corporations and small private Businesses to improve the lives of all Brazilians.

At the expense of the environment and democracy

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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
NS Miami Shores wrote:Fernando Haddad of the Leftist Workers Party for President with With Manuela Pinto d'Ávila of the Communist Party of Brazil scares me more that she might influence her party's policies on Fernando Hadddad than.

Former Captain Jair Bolsonaro and and retired General Antônio Hamilton Mourão of the Far Right Conservative Social Liberal Party of Brazil as President and Vice President, that favors a capitalist economy of corporations and small private Businesses to improve the lives of all Brazilians.

At the expense of the environment and democracy

Which the people voted for.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:06 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:At the expense of the environment and democracy

Which the people voted for.


Ironic that democracy's biggest enemy...

Is itself.

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Postby NS Miami Shores » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:11 pm

San Lumen wrote:
NS Miami Shores wrote:Fernando Haddad of the Leftist Workers Party for President with With Manuela Pinto d'Ávila of the Communist Party of Brazil scares me more that she might influence her party's policies on Fernando Hadddad than.

Former Captain Jair Bolsonaro and and retired General Antônio Hamilton Mourão of the Far Right Conservative Social Liberal Party of Brazil as President and Vice President, that favors a capitalist economy of corporations and small private Businesses to improve the lives of all Brazilians.

At the expense of the environment and democracy

San Lumen wrote:
NS Miami Shores wrote:Fernando Haddad of the Leftist Workers Party for President with da Silva l scares me more that she might influence her party's policies on Fernando Hadddad than.

Former Captain Jair Bolsonaro and and retired General Antônio Hamilton Mourão of the Far Right Conservative Social Liberal Party of Brazil as President and Vice President, that favors a capitalist economy of corporations and small private Businesses to improve the lives of all Brazilians.


At the expense of the environment and democracy

It is still too early to judge if what you say is true and was part of my OP Introduction Post on this thread and based on the DataFolha Polll I posted on my thread, but what I know is the connections of the Brazilian Communist Party of Manuela Pinto d'Ávila, with Fidel, Raúl and Diaz-Canel of Cuba and the Revolution for Life and Eternity as they themselves say, and the other undemocratic leftist leaders of Spanish Latin America, that scares me more.


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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:11 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Which the people voted for.


Ironic that democracy's biggest enemy...

Is itself.

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Postby Second Empire of America » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:36 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:Which the people voted for.


This is one of the very, very few times I will ever argue for this, but I think Democracy should be abolished in Brazil, at least on a temporary basis. If the people are genuinely willing to elect a literal fascist like Bolsonaro, they cannot be trusted with rulership of the country. This is a last resort. In all of history, the only other times I would have done this were early 1930s Germany and Austria, and modern-day Philippines, but it's the only way to keep the people of Brazil safe from Bolsonaro. Democracy is almost always good, and today is one of the few exceptions.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:40 pm

Second Empire of America wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Which the people voted for.


This is one of the very, very few times I will ever argue for this, but I think Democracy should be abolished in Brazil, at least on a temporary basis. If the people are genuinely willing to elect a literal fascist like Bolsonaro, they cannot be trusted with rulership of the country. This is a last resort. In all of history, the only other times I would have done this were early 1930s Germany and Austria, and modern-day Philippines, but it's the only way to keep the people of Brazil safe from Bolsonaro. Democracy is almost always good, and today is one of the few exceptions.

So basically "they didn't vote the way I wanted it to be, so abolish democracy to make sure they vote for the right person" umm no that's incredibly stupid.
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Postby Darussalam » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:48 pm

Second Empire of America wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Which the people voted for.


This is one of the very, very few times I will ever argue for this, but I think Democracy should be abolished in Brazil, at least on a temporary basis. If the people are genuinely willing to elect a literal fascist like Bolsonaro, they cannot be trusted with rulership of the country. This is a last resort. In all of history, the only other times I would have done this were early 1930s Germany and Austria, and modern-day Philippines, but it's the only way to keep the people of Brazil safe from Bolsonaro. Democracy is almost always good, and today is one of the few exceptions.

I ultimately agree with the sentiment that democracy is bad (it nearly elected Haddad, after all), but a responsible and accountable undemocratic government in control of Brazil won't have all the desirable aspects of Western muppet-states. Soaring high crime and stagnating economy would necessitate solutions not much different from Bolsonaro's manifesto, except perhaps with actual more competent enforcement and none of corrupt, deadlocking partisan clientelism that is inevitable in Brazilian democracy and I have little doubt will resurface once Bolsonaro is in charge.
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Postby NS Miami Shores » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:49 pm

Second Empire of America wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Which the people voted for.


This is one of the very, very few times I will ever argue for this, but I think Democracy should be abolished in Brazil, at least on a temporary basis. If the people are genuinely willing to elect a literal fascist like Bolsonaro, they cannot be trusted with rulership of the country. This is a last resort. In all of history, the only other times I would have done this were early 1930s Germany and Austria, and modern-day Philippines, but it's the only way to keep the people of Brazil safe from Bolsonaro. Democracy is almost always good, and today is one of the few exceptions.

As I said it is still to early to judge if he will become a dictator of the Right like the dictators of the Left, Fidel, Raúl, Diaz-Canel of Cuba and the eternal Revolution, Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela and the Eternal Revolution of Venezuela, Daniel Orteaga of Nicaragua again, and now it looks like Evo of Bolivia wants to join his 5 closest Amigos, see Rio Cana's thread.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:01 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:At the expense of the environment and democracy

Which the people voted for.

and that is a problem with democracy. The enemy of democracy can be the people themselves., In my view the planet comes before the needs of the people. Without the Amazon the planet is uninhabitable. Sometimes who the people chose should not be allowed to take office.Someone like Bolsonaro has no business being a leader.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:04 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Which the people voted for.

and that is a problem with democracy. The enemy of democracy can be the people themselves., In my view the planet comes before the needs of the people. Without the Amazon the planet is uninhabitable. Sometimes who the people chose should not be allowed to take office.Someone like Bolsonaro has no business being a leader.

So basically the will and needs of the people are less important than the environment. Sure let people die in streets and let crime and corruption rise, who cares if it descends into anarchy and chaos, as long as they don't pick and choose a right winger because I don't agree with their policies. Proof you don't care about people unless they agree with you or democracy unless it's your side who wins.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:12 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Second Empire of America wrote:
This is one of the very, very few times I will ever argue for this, but I think Democracy should be abolished in Brazil, at least on a temporary basis. If the people are genuinely willing to elect a literal fascist like Bolsonaro, they cannot be trusted with rulership of the country. This is a last resort. In all of history, the only other times I would have done this were early 1930s Germany and Austria, and modern-day Philippines, but it's the only way to keep the people of Brazil safe from Bolsonaro. Democracy is almost always good, and today is one of the few exceptions.

So basically "they didn't vote the way I wanted it to be, so abolish democracy to make sure they vote for the right person" umm no that's incredibly stupid.


Democracy in a nutshell. It's all fine and dandy until the masses elect people like Bolsonaro, then all of a sudden all those pro-democracy peeps are like "No, this is isn't how it works!".

It's EXACTLY how it works.

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