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Brazil second round Presidential Elections Vote and Post

1 - We support Far Right Wing former army Captain Jair Bolsonaro and retired General Antonio Hamilton Mourão of the Far Right Wing Conservative Social Liberal Party of Brazil for President and Vice President of Brazil.
104
49%
2 - We support Fernando Haddad of the Far Leftist Workers Party of Brazil and Manuela D'avila of the Communist Party of Brazil, together we can win, for President and Vice President of Brazil.
73
34%
3 - We support neither candidates and we vote Blank Ballots, either candidates will be bad for Brazil and the Brazilian people.
37
17%
 
Total votes : 214

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:48 pm

Liriena wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:Fuck socialism

Good for Brazil

Counterpoint: socialism is awesome and all the cool kids are doing it

The cool kids are the ones that end up being worthless chads later in life so...
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:48 pm

NeuPolska wrote:Fuck socialism

Good for Brazil


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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:48 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
See: Bolsonaro. :^)

Furthermore, considering how heavily Fascism's been criticized for being unapologetically opportunistic and ideologically dishonest (and before we act like these are unfounded criticisms, the actions of the historical Fascist regimes and the credentials of the critics would easily prove that they're entirely founded on reality), it's not that hard to consider the environmentalism to be one of a million bullshit talking points meant to spur on support.

But, nah! Fascists would never ever ever EVER lie to get what they want! Why, that'd be uncouth!

The communists, the actual ones not your anarchists libertarian types, also lied to get what they wanted.


Thank goodness for unprincipled opportunists, amirite?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:49 pm

Liriena wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Do you expect me to support communists?

I assumed a principled libertarian would favor abstention.

I mean, when the 2015 Argie presidential election came down to neolib Macri and peronist Scioli, the actually, honestly principled communists called for left-wing voters to cast blank ballots. When pressed to choose between two incredibly flawed candidates, but one of which supported policies somewhere in the vicinity of their own, they refused to choose altogether. They stood by their ideals even when they knew it could (and did) partially lead to a victory for the most right-wing candidate with.

Why can't right-wing libertarians do the same? :thonk:

I've met too many right-libertarians who abstain from all voting, and I can't help but think of them as cowardly.
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United Muscovite Nations wrote:And the Pinochet and Videla support?


>Have the worst economic crisis in the history of your country
>slaughter thousands of people for not believing what you believe in
>"Pinochet was a Capitalist hero!!1!"

Ad infinitum, just change the name of the given dictator accordingly.

And yet Chile hasn't removed Pinochet's economic policies.
I wonder why. :^)
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:49 pm

Liriena wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>Have the worst economic crisis in the history of your country
>slaughter thousands of people for not believing what you believe in
>"Pinochet was a Capitalist hero!!1!"

Ad infinitum, just change the name of the given dictator accordingly.

With Videla he wouldn't even be able to argue that it's all justified because of "muh economy", given that Videla's dictatorship left our economy in shambles after applying a bunch of neocon policies.

At least Videla didn’t start a war because his popularity was shit
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:49 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Counterpoint: socialism is awesome and all the cool kids are doing it

The cool kids are the ones that end up being worthless chads later in life so...


Counterpoint: the Chads are actually succeeding in life.

Which, funnily enough, would mean someone like Stalin was a Chad whereas you're not. :3
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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:50 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Liriena wrote:With Videla he wouldn't even be able to argue that it's all justified because of "muh economy", given that Videla's dictatorship left our economy in shambles after applying a bunch of neocon policies.

At least Videla didn’t start a war because his popularity was shit

He wasn't drunk enough. Galtieri had the liquid valor. :P
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:50 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Liriena wrote:I assumed a principled libertarian would favor abstention.

I mean, when the 2015 Argie presidential election came down to neolib Macri and peronist Scioli, the actually, honestly principled communists called for left-wing voters to cast blank ballots. When pressed to choose between two incredibly flawed candidates, but one of which supported policies somewhere in the vicinity of their own, they refused to choose altogether. They stood by their ideals even when they knew it could (and did) partially lead to a victory for the most right-wing candidate with.

Why can't right-wing libertarians do the same? :thonk:

I've met too many right-libertarians who abstain from all voting, and I can't help but think of them as cowardly.
Torrocca wrote:
>Have the worst economic crisis in the history of your country
>slaughter thousands of people for not believing what you believe in
>"Pinochet was a Capitalist hero!!1!"

Ad infinitum, just change the name of the given dictator accordingly.

And yet Chile hasn't removed Pinochet's economic policies.
I wonder why. :^)


Chile's had multiple leftist governments and economic reforms since Pinochet fucked off, actually. :^)
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:50 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The communists, the actual ones not your anarchists libertarian types, also lied to get what they wanted.


Thank goodness for unprincipled opportunists, amirite?

Without them we’d have some 300+ million people still alive
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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:50 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Counterpoint: socialism is awesome and all the cool kids are doing it

The cool kids are the ones that end up being worthless chads later in life so...

Chad is daddy af, whereas the loathsome virgin is but a twank
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:51 pm

Liriena wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Do you expect me to support communists?

I assumed a principled libertarian would favor abstention.

I mean, when the 2015 Argie presidential election came down to neolib Macri and peronist Scioli, the actually, honestly principled communists called for left-wing voters to cast blank ballots. When pressed to choose between two incredibly flawed candidates, but one of which supported policies somewhere in the vicinity of their own, they refused to choose altogether. They stood by their ideals even when they knew it could (and did) partially lead to a victory for the most right-wing candidate with.

Why can't right-wing libertarians do the same? :thonk:


*Assumes all right-wing libs (we will call this "x") will not abstain from voting and will vote right-wing (we will call this "y").

The big oof ya did there, Lir.

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Postby Uxupox » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:51 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I've met too many right-libertarians who abstain from all voting, and I can't help but think of them as cowardly.

And yet Chile hasn't removed Pinochet's economic policies.
I wonder why. :^)


Chile's had multiple leftist governments and economic reforms since Pinochet fucked off, actually. :^)


all pretty trashy governments that keep fucking the poor in the mountains by throwing damned poison on them. the same thing happens in peru.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:52 pm

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Postby Virgolia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:52 pm

Liriena wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>Have the worst economic crisis in the history of your country
>slaughter thousands of people for not believing what you believe in
>"Pinochet was a Capitalist hero!!1!"

Ad infinitum, just change the name of the given dictator accordingly.

With Videla he wouldn't even be able to argue that it's all justified because of "muh economy", given that Videla's dictatorship left our economy in shambles after applying a bunch of neocon policies.

That's whyt I'm worried about his economic policies,if he follows Videla's neolib example the whole region will be affected

I don't want to starve because brazilians are angry at leftists
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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:52 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Liriena wrote:I assumed a principled libertarian would favor abstention.

I mean, when the 2015 Argie presidential election came down to neolib Macri and peronist Scioli, the actually, honestly principled communists called for left-wing voters to cast blank ballots. When pressed to choose between two incredibly flawed candidates, but one of which supported policies somewhere in the vicinity of their own, they refused to choose altogether. They stood by their ideals even when they knew it could (and did) partially lead to a victory for the most right-wing candidate with.

Why can't right-wing libertarians do the same? :thonk:


*Assumes all right-wing libs (we will call this "x") will not abstain from voting and will vote right-wing (we will call this "y").

The big oof ya did there, Lir.

I didn't mean to generalize all right-wing libs, and I admit my wording at the end was a mistake. I meant to focus on the right-wing libs here and elsewhere who chose to actively support Bolsonaro.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:53 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Chile's had multiple leftist governments and economic reforms since Pinochet fucked off, actually. :^)


all pretty trashy governments that keep fucking the poor in the mountains by throwing damned poison on them. the same thing happens in peru.

Hey, you try to say no to that sweet, delicious Barrick gold. I mean, how else will I be able to cheaply make myself a gold pizza?
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Postby NeuPolska » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:54 pm

Torrocca wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:Fuck socialism

Good for Brazil

You'd think someone who swore an oath to the United States constitution of all things would be aghast at the prospect of a Fascist being elected to office somewhere, but apparently not.

>Fascist

People love to throw that term around at anyone that disagrees with them. What I see here is a right winger who is willing to fix the problems Brazil has been facing for years now, and build Brazil into a functioning society.

The right wing is inherently better for the common man because things actually work under conservative policies. Anything run by the government, meaning everything under communism, is inefficient, prone to corruption (which is already crippling in Brazil), and provides services of much worse quality than what capitalism offers.

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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:54 pm

Virgolia wrote:
Liriena wrote:With Videla he wouldn't even be able to argue that it's all justified because of "muh economy", given that Videla's dictatorship left our economy in shambles after applying a bunch of neocon policies.

That's whyt I'm worried about his economic policies,if he follows Videla's neolib example the whole region will be affected

I don't want to starve because brazilians are angry at leftists

Unfortunately, "destroying the world to own the lefties" is a recurring problem around the world, but specially in the Americas. :/
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:55 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I've met too many right-libertarians who abstain from all voting, and I can't help but think of them as cowardly.

And yet Chile hasn't removed Pinochet's economic policies.
I wonder why. :^)


Chile's had multiple leftist governments and economic reforms since Pinochet fucked off, actually. :^)

>Chile is almost as economically free as the United States
None of those reforms seriously messed with Pinochet's market liberalization.
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Postby Virgolia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:56 pm

Liriena wrote:
Virgolia wrote:That's whyt I'm worried about his economic policies,if he follows Videla's neolib example the whole region will be affected

I don't want to starve because brazilians are angry at leftists

Unfortunately, "destroying the world to own the lefties" is a recurring problem around the world, but specially in the Americas. :/

I don't really like leftists,but I'm not going to support Libertarian just to screw them.

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Postby Uxupox » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:56 pm

Liriena wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
all pretty trashy governments that keep fucking the poor in the mountains by throwing damned poison on them. the same thing happens in peru.

Hey, you try to say no to that sweet, delicious Barrick gold. I mean, how else will I be able to cheaply make myself a gold pizza?


has nothing to do with that actually. it's part of the drug war engaged by both peru and chile as part of the international prohibition that exists against the coca leaf.
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Postby Rio Cana » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:56 pm

Some of you have mentioned the new Brazilian Pres. being like the Philippines Pres. Then some have mentioned that the new Brazilian pres. could care less about the Amazon or the environment. It seems that is where the Brazilian pres. and the Philippines Pres. have differences. A few months ago the Philippines Pres. closed down a major tourist island that was being overwhelmed by uncontrolled tourism that was creating major environmental problems. The island has re-opened after major changes.

Read - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... trict-new/
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:57 pm

NeuPolska wrote:
Torrocca wrote:You'd think someone who swore an oath to the United States constitution of all things would be aghast at the prospect of a Fascist being elected to office somewhere, but apparently not.

>Fascist

People love to throw that term around at anyone that disagrees with them. What I see here is a right winger who is willing to fix the problems Brazil has been facing for years now, and build Brazil into a functioning society.


Lel, then you need to take off the rose-tinted goggles and consider why people would actually consider him to be a Fascist.

The right wing is inherently better for the common man


Apparently not the common person who's a: woman, a member of the LGBTQ+ community, any racial, religious, or ethnic minority, or anyone who disagrees with Bolsonaro's beliefs.

because things actually work under conservative policies.


Pffft.

Anything run by the government, meaning everything under communism, is inefficient, prone to corruption (which is already crippling in Brazil), and provides services of much worse quality than what capitalism offers.


Holy shit, there's so much wrong with this statement that I can't even fathom what to say except you literally have no idea what you're talking about.

I guess, going off this insane logic here, you think the very government you swore an oath to is Communist, yeah?
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:57 pm

I'm laughing at the glance of half of the posters here that have clearly not read the textbook definition of fascism before hurling shit at bolsonaro
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:58 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Chile's had multiple leftist governments and economic reforms since Pinochet fucked off, actually. :^)

>Chile is almost as economically free as the United States
None of those reforms seriously messed with Pinochet's market liberalization.


Economic freedom's a lie. :^)

Great Minarchistan wrote:I'm laughing at the glance of half of the posters here that have clearly not read the textbook definition of fascism before hurling shit at bolsonaro


I'm absolutely not surprised you'd be laughing here after displaying how opportunistic you are at the idea of having an unabashed cunt who's in favor of military dictatorships as your leader since he's economically liberal.
Communist now and forever.
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
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"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
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