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Brazil second round Presidential Elections Vote and Post

1 - We support Far Right Wing former army Captain Jair Bolsonaro and retired General Antonio Hamilton Mourão of the Far Right Wing Conservative Social Liberal Party of Brazil for President and Vice President of Brazil.
104
49%
2 - We support Fernando Haddad of the Far Leftist Workers Party of Brazil and Manuela D'avila of the Communist Party of Brazil, together we can win, for President and Vice President of Brazil.
73
34%
3 - We support neither candidates and we vote Blank Ballots, either candidates will be bad for Brazil and the Brazilian people.
37
17%
 
Total votes : 214

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Postby Kaggeceria » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:But the people voted for it, they rejected the corrupt communist supporting PT for a reason. Sound familiar. ;)

Yeah who cares about trees and birds and if our children have a world to inherit! Only muh money and my comforts matter. Screw the earth. We need that land for farming

What the hell are you even talking about?

Why do you act like anytime anyone right-wing gets elected the world will literally end?
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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:29 pm

Virgolia wrote:Everyone is talking about his policies towards the left and minorities,but what really matter is how will he handle the Brazilian Economy,Because if he doesn't do a good job it won't be just the brazilians who will be affected,but South America as a whole.

"I'm fine with a bit of genocide is the GDP grows"
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:30 pm

For once in my life, I raise my glass to Brazil.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:30 pm

Virgolia wrote:Everyone is talking about his policies towards the left and minorities,but what really matter is how will he handle the Brazilian Economy,Because if he doesn't do a good job it won't be just the brazilians who will be affected,but South America as a whole.

Genocide as a pitstop on the road to economic progress? Sounds about right, considering human history.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:31 pm

Virgolia wrote:Everyone is talking about his policies towards the left and minorities,but what really matter is how will he handle the Brazilian Economy,Because if he doesn't do a good job it won't be just the brazilians who will be affected,but South America as a whole.

1933 knocking at your door.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:31 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:For once in my life, I raise my glass to Brazil.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:31 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:For once in my life, I raise my glass to Brazil.

u ebil fascist xd

No u. ;p

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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:32 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Virgolia wrote:Everyone is talking about his policies towards the left and minorities,but what really matter is how will he handle the Brazilian Economy,Because if he doesn't do a good job it won't be just the brazilians who will be affected,but South America as a whole.

Genocide as a pitstop on the road to economic progress? Sounds about right, considering human history.

How about maintaining pressure to prevent the genocide part from happening while keeping economic progress?
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:33 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah who cares about trees and birds and if our children have a world to inherit! Only muh money and my comforts matter. Screw the earth. We need that land for farming

What the hell are you even talking about?

Why do you act like anytime anyone right-wing gets elected the world will literally end?

Whenever a leftist gets elected he's fine with it because "The people voted for it, get over it"
Whenever a rightist gets elected he's always "This is the end of the world, everything is going to die because people voted evil people who don't align with my views"
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:33 pm

Bolsonaro isn't some Trumper who is wrongly accused of being a fascist, this is a guy who said he thinks firing squads are appropriate for his political opponents, and who famously said that he would institute a military coup if elected, and famously said that Pinochet didn't kill and torture enough people.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:33 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Genocide as a pitstop on the road to economic progress? Sounds about right, considering human history.

How about maintaining pressure to prevent the genocide part from happening while keeping economic progress?

Like we did in Rwanda? Oh wait..
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:34 pm

Kowani wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
he's >>literally hitler<< because he wants to jail corrupt leftist politicians and violent leftist mobs?

aight, sounds legit then. someone better be on the lookout for any import requests of gases at this point.



singapore, south korea, interwar poland, interwar czechoslovakia, interwar finland, interwar yugoslavia (for the most part), salazar portugal (colonies excluded), apartheid south africa (for the most part)

South Korea. :eyebrow: I’m gonna need proof of all this right wing populism.


...never heard of chung-hee?

Kowani wrote:And no, Apartheid South Africa has a crap ton of blood on its hands.


despite all of its shortcomings, south africa was remarkably peaceful in terms of repression for an authoritarian government.

the only thing I can think of is the sharpeville thing, but that was a one-off event and first-hand accounts differ on it, with some black bystanders having backed the police's account of the story, and the police was majority black anyway.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:34 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Genocide as a pitstop on the road to economic progress? Sounds about right, considering human history.

How about maintaining pressure to prevent the genocide part from happening while keeping economic progress?

The Brazilian congress has a lot to work on, then, since the president-elect literally wants to murder so many people that Duterte's going to look like a wimp.

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Postby Rio Cana » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:35 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Rio Cana wrote:Wonder if Bol. foreign policy toward his neighboring nations will be tough or stay has it is. If he wants Brazilian trade to get to the Pacific via an overland route he cannot be too tough with his neighbors.

So an invasion of Peru is out of the question? :p


The Peruvians would crush any invasion. Its best not to mess around with the Andeans.
Just a small example of there military in parade - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiJi8Emck1w :clap:
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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:35 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:How about maintaining pressure to prevent the genocide part from happening while keeping economic progress?

The Brazilian congress has a lot to work on, then, since the president-elect literally wants to murder so many people that Duterte's going to look like a wimp.

...this is gonna end up like Dilma all over again, isn't it?

Fingers crossed.
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Postby Virgolia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:35 pm

Liriena wrote:
Virgolia wrote:Everyone is talking about his policies towards the left and minorities,but what really matter is how will he handle the Brazilian Economy,Because if he doesn't do a good job it won't be just the brazilians who will be affected,but South America as a whole.

"I'm fine with a bit of genocide is the GDP grows"

That's not what I said,or at least not what I meant
If he does a genocide it will just affect brazilians,their problem,they chose it

but if he screws up the economy it will affect other people who had no say during the election.

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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:36 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:For once in my life, I raise my glass to Brazil.

u ebil fascist xd

I-I only like the uniforms...
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Bolsonaro isn't some Trumper who is wrongly accused of being a fascist, this is a guy who said he thinks firing squads are appropriate for his political opponents, and who famously said that he would institute a military coup if elected, and famously said that Pinochet didn't kill and torture enough people.

Can we start calling him "mi general"?
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:36 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:So an invasion of Peru is out of the question? :p


The Peruvians would crush any invasion. Its best not to mess around with the Andeans.
Just a small example of there military in parade - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiJi8Emck1w :clap:


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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:36 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:So an invasion of Peru is out of the question? :p


The Peruvians would crush any invasion. Its best not to mess around with the Andeans.
Just a small example of there military in parade - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiJi8Emck1w :clap:

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Political compass stuff:
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:37 pm


Vass they where under orders from the Electoral Justice Tribunal because the universities were conducting campaigns for a candidate (haddad), which is prohibited.

This has been going on long before the election. Stop spreading lies and bullshit
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Postby Liriena » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:37 pm

Virgolia wrote:
Liriena wrote:"I'm fine with a bit of genocide is the GDP grows"

That's not what I said,or at least not what I meant
If he does a genocide it will just affect brazilians,their problem,they chose it

but if he screws up the economy it will affect other people who had no say during the election.

Okay, but will it also affect the World Cup?
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I am:
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Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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