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Brazil second round Presidential Elections Vote and Post

1 - We support Far Right Wing former army Captain Jair Bolsonaro and retired General Antonio Hamilton Mourão of the Far Right Wing Conservative Social Liberal Party of Brazil for President and Vice President of Brazil.
104
48%
2 - We support Fernando Haddad of the Far Leftist Workers Party of Brazil and Manuela D'avila of the Communist Party of Brazil, together we can win, for President and Vice President of Brazil.
74
34%
3 - We support neither candidates and we vote Blank Ballots, either candidates will be bad for Brazil and the Brazilian people.
37
17%
 
Total votes : 215

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Postby Aellex » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:59 pm

Torrocca wrote:Suuureeeee. :^)

And acting like it's the fault of the Communists that the Fascists got into power is so ludicrously ahistorical that it's not even funny anymore tbqh.

They sure did their damn bestest to help them, at least. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But yes, to go back to the subject, Bolsonaro isn't a fascist and neither is anyone who points out that simple fact for the sin of disagreeing with you.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:00 pm

Aellex wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Suuureeeee. :^)

And acting like it's the fault of the Communists that the Fascists got into power is so ludicrously ahistorical that it's not even funny anymore tbqh.

They sure did their damn bestest to help them, at least. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But yes, to go back to the subject, Bolsonaro isn't a fascist


Yes he is. :^)

and neither is anyone who points out that simple fact for the sin of disagreeing with you.


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Postby Uxupox » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:00 pm

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San Lumen wrote:With Bolsonaro’s victory it is time to say farewell to democracy in Brazil and even more sadly the Amazon rainforest. This will be a day remembered for generations to come. That’s if there even is a world for our children to inherit.


AH, well. Democracy's died in Latin America before, it always bounces back. Besides, the Social Liberals are second behind the PT in the Chamber and tied for 10th place in the Senate, so he'll still need a hefty coalition to get things done.


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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:But the people voted for it, they rejected the corrupt communist supporting PT for a reason. Sound familiar. ;)

Yeah who cares about trees and birds and if our children have a world to inherit! Only muh money and my comforts matter. Screw the earth. We need that land for farming

I was talking about your utter disregard for democracy and being a political hack and only supporting democracy when it goes your way. Like Sweden earlier last month you were fine because the SD didn't win, but because oh a right winger wins in Brazil, you're all up in arms and it's literally the worst thing ever and the end of the world as we know it. Like seriously either stay consistent or shut up.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:But the people voted for it, they rejected the corrupt communist supporting PT for a reason. Sound familiar. ;)

Yeah who cares about trees and birds and if our children have a world to inherit! Only muh money and my comforts matter. Screw the earth. We need that land for farming


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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:02 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
But your totally unbiased opinion is? Gonna be honest: I've never met someone so arrogant that they think they know an ideology better than it's own practitioners. The Fascists I've met and conversed with would honestly shock you, I think. Of course you don't strike me as the type to have a mature conversation with people you disagree with anyway considering how you like to throw out smug smilies and "lmaos" everywhere as if you're a talking encyclopedia with all the answers and everyone who disagrees is a moron who doesn't know bupkis.


I'll trust the academic sources on the matter over the words of a two-bit nobody who you're citing as your evidence, thank you very much.


And do these academic sources happen to come from historical Fascists and Fascist works or their dissenters and dissenting works? Because last I checked history was written by the victors, and they tend to be biased folks. It's actually not that far off to say that the Allies were planning to change the shape of the world before the war was even over.

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I haven't seen anyone supporting Bolsonaro, but then again I did just get here.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:02 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah who cares about trees and birds and if our children have a world to inherit! Only muh money and my comforts matter. Screw the earth. We need that land for farming

I was talking about your utter disregard for democracy and being a political hack and only supporting democracy when it goes your way. Like Sweden earlier last month you were fine because the SD didn't win, but because oh a right winger wins in Brazil, you're all up in arms and it's literally the worst thing ever and the end of the world as we know it. Like seriously either stay consistent or shut up.

The destruction of the Amazon will effect you where you are. The SD did not call for the end of all environmental regulations

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:04 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I'll trust the academic sources on the matter over the words of a two-bit nobody who you're citing as your evidence, thank you very much.


And do these academic sources happen to come from historical Fascists and Fascist works or their dissenters and dissenting works? Because last I checked history was written by the victors, and they tend to be biased folks. It's actually not that far off to say that the Allies were planning to change the shape of the world before the war was even over.


>History is written by the victors

Aaaaand there's about the point where I came to the natural conclusion that I've no reason to take anything you say at face value, either, considering how mind-bogglingly stupid and bullshit that statement alone is.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:04 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:I was talking about your utter disregard for democracy and being a political hack and only supporting democracy when it goes your way. Like Sweden earlier last month you were fine because the SD didn't win, but because oh a right winger wins in Brazil, you're all up in arms and it's literally the worst thing ever and the end of the world as we know it. Like seriously either stay consistent or shut up.

The destruction of the Amazon will effect you where you are. The SD did not call for the end of all environmental regulations

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Postby Uxupox » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:04 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:I was talking about your utter disregard for democracy and being a political hack and only supporting democracy when it goes your way. Like Sweden earlier last month you were fine because the SD didn't win, but because oh a right winger wins in Brazil, you're all up in arms and it's literally the worst thing ever and the end of the world as we know it. Like seriously either stay consistent or shut up.

The destruction of the Amazon will effect you where you are. The SD did not call for the end of all environmental regulations


the sd were not even in the contention for the presidency with only 4.8 % of the election result.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:05 pm

Haddad is LITERALLY Stalin. did you even see his policies?
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:05 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Aellex wrote:They sure did their damn bestest to help them, at least. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But yes, to go back to the subject, Bolsonaro isn't a fascist


Yes he is. :^)


No proper Fascist would permit, endorse, or tolerate the destruction of the Amazon. Fascists have always been Environmentalists, sorry to break that to you.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:05 pm

The social Liberal Party (PSL) won. So I assume that means the conservatives lost right ?
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Postby Shrillland » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:05 pm

Uxupox wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The destruction of the Amazon will effect you where you are. The SD did not call for the end of all environmental regulations


the sd were not even in the contention for the presidency with only 4.8 % of the election result.


They're talking about Sweden and how Lumen is a hypocrite for hating democracy when it doesn't go his way.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:05 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The destruction of the Amazon will effect you where you are. The SD did not call for the end of all environmental regulations

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Postby Trumptonium1 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:06 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Yes he is. :^)


No proper Fascist would permit, endorse, or tolerate the destruction of the Amazon. Fascists have always been Environmentalists, sorry to break that to you.


liberals find it hard to stomach that fascists were the first to endorse environmentalism and animal rights, since liberals find breathing the same air as fascists scandalous, so anything they did must be done in the opposite manner. unfortunately that brings them to realities they don't want to face, like supporting industry over the environment.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:06 pm

Uxupox wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The destruction of the Amazon will effect you where you are. The SD did not call for the end of all environmental regulations


the sd were not even in the contention for the presidency with only 4.8 % of the election result.

Was talking about the Swedish elections from last month and San's utter hypocrisy in regard to democracy when things to go his way.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:06 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Yes he is. :^)


No proper Fascist would permit, endorse, or tolerate the destruction of the Amazon. Fascists have always been Environmentalists, sorry to break that to you.


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Postby NS Miami Shores » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:07 pm

Rio Cana wrote:With 99% of the votes counted, Bol. got 55.2% of the vote. Had. got 44.8%.

A local radio station had some news on this. They had part of Bol. victory speech. And he does sound like a normal politician. Wanting to get Brazil closer to the first class nations of the world. To work for all Brazilians and such. Nothing he said sounded subversive. Time will tell.

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Since I am a proud Conservative Republican Nationalist Libertarian, as I describe myself personally.

Over Fernando Haddad of the Far Leftist Workers Party of Brazil and Manuela D'avila of the Communist Party of Brazil.

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Postby Shrillland » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:07 pm

Greed and Death wrote:The social Liberal Party (PSL) won. So I assume that means the conservatives lost right ?


No, PSL is the conservative party led by Bolsonaro. They were actual social liberals until Bolsonaro hijacked the party and made it right-wing nationalist so saith Wiki.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:07 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:
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Except you are when things don't go your way.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:07 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Yes he is. :^)


No proper Fascist would permit, endorse, or tolerate the destruction of the Amazon. Fascists have always been Environmentalists, sorry to break that to you.


Shhhhhh. Torrocca cannot handle the truth.

As for destroying the Amazon, that has been fucked for decades well before the "fascist" got in control. Because let's face it, the party in control gave little shits about the country in the first place.

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:07 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
No proper Fascist would permit, endorse, or tolerate the destruction of the Amazon. Fascists have always been Environmentalists, sorry to break that to you.


liberals find it hard to stomach that fascists were the first to endorse environmentalism and animal rights, since liberals find breathing the same air as fascists scandalous, so anything they did must be done in the opposite manner. unfortunately that brings them to realities they don't want to face, like supporting industry over the environment.

Bolsonaro said he wants to end all environmental regulations and could care less about the Amazon

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:08 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
And do these academic sources happen to come from historical Fascists and Fascist works or their dissenters and dissenting works? Because last I checked history was written by the victors, and they tend to be biased folks. It's actually not that far off to say that the Allies were planning to change the shape of the world before the war was even over.


>History is written by the victors

Aaaaand there's about the point where I came to the natural conclusion that I've no reason to take anything you say at face value, either, considering how mind-bogglingly stupid and bullshit that statement alone is.


Just as well. I already put you on my foes list anyway, seeing as you can't hold a mature argument with anyone who even slightly dissents from your opinion.

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:09 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:Haddad is LITERALLY Stalin. did you even see his policies?

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