ECHR decrees Europe wide blasphemy law ...for Islam only

[Ifreann]

Key word here, used to. Not applicable to the modern world. Laws of the past have no bearing on modern society

Germany prosecuted someone as recently as February 2016

Also, the Greek blasphemy laws specifically apply only to the Greek Orthodox Church, which I’m sure you are aware, is a Christian Church.

Malta criminalises vilification of the Roman Catholic Church, and prosecuted over 600 people for it as recently as 2008.

Poland prosecuted a singer named Doda in 2012.

Spain also prosecuted Javier Krahe in 2012.

And of course, let’s not forget the trouble Stephen Fry got in when he spoke against the Catholic Church in Ireland.

Literally no trouble?

[Crockerland]

The idea that the actions that saw this woman prosecuted would be better received in Russia is quite amusing though. Try holding a seminar in Grozny accusing Muhammad of being a pedophile and see what happens to you

You are 100% correct but this isn't the narrative Russian bots want to push on the west. Their narrative suggests that Russia is a bastion of Christianity and the "evil west" is being overrun by muslims. And therefore you must support Russia or get killed by the "evil immigrants".

In reality, islam in Russia is huge, just like Orthodoxy. And some of it's states have a muslim majority. But that's something all these concerned "europeans" and 'americans" conveniently forget to mention when making comparisons.

The "Russian bots" don't exist.

[Gig em Aggies]

Key word here, used to. Not applicable to the modern world. Laws of the past have no bearing on modern society

Germany prosecuted someone as recently as February 2016

Also, the Greek blasphemy laws specifically apply only to the Greek Orthodox Church, which I’m sure you are aware, is a Christian Church.

Malta criminalises vilification of the Roman Catholic Church, and prosecuted over 600 people for it as recently as 2008.

Poland prosecuted a singer named Doda in 2012.

Spain also prosecuted Javier Krahe in 2012.

And of course, let’s not forget the trouble Stephen Fry got in when he spoke against the Catholic Church in Ireland.

Well Ireland is mostly Catholic and has been they don't have land based borders for Arab migrants to cross over. But more over Europe seems more focused on not offending muslims which is stupid since both in Europe and America being offensive towards Christians is okay but heaven forbid anything is done toward Islam. Over all I feel a lot of people miss the days when Europe was actually Europe and not a "socialist ideological" feel good playground.

[Ifreann]

You are 100% correct but this isn't the narrative Russian bots want to push on the west. Their narrative suggests that Russia is a bastion of Christianity and the "evil west" is being overrun by muslims. And therefore you must support Russia or get killed by the "evil immigrants".

In reality, islam in Russia is huge, just like Orthodoxy. And some of it's states have a muslim majority. But that's something all these concerned "europeans" and 'americans" conveniently forget to mention when making comparisons.

The "Russian bots" don't exist.

- Comrade-Bot

[Gig em Aggies]

The "Russian bots" don't exist.

- Comrade-Bot

Eh I think I saw comrade bot on the Internet. it was just some drunk Russian with a metal trash can hanging off his shoulders with an AK in his hand and a bottle of Vodka in the other.

[Ifreann]

- Comrade-Bot

Eh I think I saw comrade bot on the Internet. it was just some drunk Russian with a metal trash can hanging off his shoulders with an AK in his hand and a bottle of Vodka in the other.

Shoferica?

[Dazchan]

Germany prosecuted someone as recently as February 2016

Also, the Greek blasphemy laws specifically apply only to the Greek Orthodox Church, which I’m sure you are aware, is a Christian Church.

Malta criminalises vilification of the Roman Catholic Church, and prosecuted over 600 people for it as recently as 2008.

Poland prosecuted a singer named Doda in 2012.

Spain also prosecuted Javier Krahe in 2012.

And of course, let’s not forget the trouble Stephen Fry got in when he spoke against the Catholic Church in Ireland.

Well Ireland is mostly Catholic and has been they don't have land based borders for Arab migrants to cross over.

Irrelevant. The claim I was disputing was that modern European blasphemy laws don’t prosecute people who blaspheme against Christianity, not that Ireland has land borders. Try reading the post before responding.

But more over Europe seems more focused on not offending muslims which is stupid since both in Europe and America being offensive towards Christians is okay but heaven forbid anything is done toward Islam.

I love that you responded to a post that literally lists cases where blasphemy laws were used to protect Christianity with a claim that “being offensive towards Christians is okay”.

[Ifreann]

Germany prosecuted someone as recently as February 2016

Also, the Greek blasphemy laws specifically apply only to the Greek Orthodox Church, which I’m sure you are aware, is a Christian Church.

Malta criminalises vilification of the Roman Catholic Church, and prosecuted over 600 people for it as recently as 2008.

Poland prosecuted a singer named Doda in 2012.

Spain also prosecuted Javier Krahe in 2012.

And of course, let’s not forget the trouble Stephen Fry got in when he spoke against the Catholic Church in Ireland.

Well Ireland is mostly Catholic and has been they don't have land based borders for Arab migrants to cross over. But more over Europe seems more focused on not offending muslims which is stupid since both in Europe and America being offensive towards Christians is okay but heaven forbid anything is done toward Islam. Over all I feel a lot of people miss the days when Europe was actually Europe and not a "socialist ideological" feel good playground.

We have an Islamic cultural centre in Ireland. And we have airports.

[Gig em Aggies]

Well Ireland is mostly Catholic and has been they don't have land based borders for Arab migrants to cross over. But more over Europe seems more focused on not offending muslims which is stupid since both in Europe and America being offensive towards Christians is okay but heaven forbid anything is done toward Islam. Over all I feel a lot of people miss the days when Europe was actually Europe and not a "socialist ideological" feel good playground.

We have an Islamic cultural centre in Ireland. And we have airports.

Yeah but how many migrants coming into Europe from the Arab world could afford an airplane ticket. None, Zilch

[Fartsniffage]

We have an Islamic cultural centre in Ireland. And we have airports.

Yeah but how many migrants coming into Europe from the Arab world could afford an airplane ticket. None, Zilch

You've clearly never heard of Easyjet....

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Well Ireland is mostly Catholic and has been they don't have land based borders for Arab migrants to cross over. But more over Europe seems more focused on not offending muslims which is stupid since both in Europe and America being offensive towards Christians is okay but heaven forbid anything is done toward Islam. Over all I feel a lot of people miss the days when Europe was actually Europe and not a "socialist ideological" feel good playground.

We have an Islamic cultural centre in Ireland. And we have airports.

I'm pretty sure that every nation has an Islamic cultural center, along other religious cultural centers.

It ain't exactly an indicator of Ireland suddenly throwing its arms open for Islam.

[Ifreann]

We have an Islamic cultural centre in Ireland. And we have airports.

Yeah but how many migrants coming into Europe from the Arab world could afford an airplane ticket. None, Zilch

Um.


Where the fuck do you think the Muslims in Ireland came from?

[Lord Dominator]

Yeah but how many migrants coming into Europe from the Arab world could afford an airplane ticket. None, Zilch

Um.


Where the fuck do you think the Muslims in Ireland came from?

Leaky rafts from Syria

[Ifreann]

Um.


Where the fuck do you think the Muslims in Ireland came from?

Leaky rafts from Syria

Fair play rowing across France.

[Lord Dominator]

Leaky rafts from Syria

Fair play rowing across France.

France surrendered, they commandeered the trains after leaving a small occupying force

[Australian rePublic]

In which part of the European Union is it illegal to blaspheme against Christianity in the modern world?

Well what do the colours on the map mean?

[Crockerland]

(Image)

Well what do the colours on the map mean?

Gray = freedom
White = ocean and borders
Yellow to dark red = Gradient from moderate to severe violation of human rights

[Ifreann]

Well what do the colours on the map mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law
The severity of the punishments for their blasphemy laws. Yellow is sub-national restrictions, orange is fines, red is prison sentences, dark red is death.

[Dazchan]

Well what do the colours on the map mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law
The severity of the punishments for their blasphemy laws. Yellow is sub-national restrictions, orange is fines, red is prison sentences, dark red is death.

The interesting thing is that one of the countries marked as red on that map is the country his own family is from, which has a law banning blasphemy against Christianity specifically and exclusively.

[Australian rePublic]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law
The severity of the punishments for their blasphemy laws. Yellow is sub-national restrictions, orange is fines, red is prison sentences, dark red is death.

The interesting thing is that one of the countries marked as red on that map is the country his own family is from, which has a law banning blasphemy against Christianity specifically and exclusively.

Yep. Now I guess my next question is, what exactly qualifies as blasphemy?

[Salus Maior]

So how is not being able to insult one person stopping you from criticising a religion?

I think the issue is why this one person is being held up as so sacred as to not be scrutinized.

[Salus Maior]

And of course, let’s not forget the trouble Stephen Fry got in when he spoke against the Catholic Church in Ireland.

...Which he got completely off the hook for?

[Conserative Morality]

And of course, let’s not forget the trouble Stephen Fry got in when he spoke against the Catholic Church in Ireland.

...Which he got completely off the hook for?

Only because Irish blasphemy laws, like Sharia, need more than one person to testify.

[Lord Dominator]

And of course, let’s not forget the trouble Stephen Fry got in when he spoke against the Catholic Church in Ireland.

...Which he got completely off the hook for?

The point was still that someone got charged for it, not that Ireland realized it was dumb as hell

[Salus Maior]

...Which he got completely off the hook for?

The point was still that someone got charged for it, not that Ireland realized it was dumb as hell

So he got charged under a de-facto defunct law.

Obviously that's not what this is going to be.