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Postby Harelia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:06 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Maybe it's a double false flag. A Republican trying to make it look like a Democrat trying to make it look like a Republican.

Wake up, sheeple!


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:06 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Liriena wrote:When you produce actual proof that it's not a coincidence.

You didn't need any evidence with Kavenaugh.

Was Kav sent a mail bomb as well? Or are you trying to derail the thread?

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Postby Free Tristania » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:07 am

San Lumen wrote:
Free Tristania wrote:Oh yes. But when does coincidence stop being coincidence.

Yeah body slamming a reporter is perfectly acceptable. And with your crazy accusations you would be a awful detective or investigator

Violence has always been perfectly respectable in the eyes of the Left.
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:07 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Xmara wrote:
People are naturally hardwired to see patterns in everything.

Oh yes. But when does coincidence stop being coincidence.

When there's an actual evidence of causality other than "But it was convenient".
Pure association doesn't count being the cause.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:07 am

Seriously though we simply don´t have enough info to accurately say who it is. While signs to point to this being a right wing nut I don´t think we can say with certainty that is a right wing only that it is very likely a right wing nut. But as for me I got 30 bucks on it being a Russian-Chinese plot. :p
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Postby Harelia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:07 am

Caracasus wrote:I think there is a not zero chance this is the work of an extraterrestial hive mind intent on sowing discord and starting WW3 so it can create a slave race of mutant cockroaches to do its bidding in the ashes. I have fuck all to back it up, but if you dismiss it out of hand, well that'd be you being close minded.


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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:07 am

Harelia wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Loads of actual evidence to support someone with a grudge against trump critics doing it, fuck all to support it being a false flag and you are suggesting it might be.

I tend to call that the logical fallacy of talking out of your arse.


Prove it's a right-winger doing it then.

You can't, can you? Exactly.

I can't prove it wasn't a girl scout who mixed up her cookies and her dads plumbing supplies either. I can't prove that it was Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's version of a resignation letter. I can't prove it wasn't Crazy Harry. I can look at what is the most likely case and make a reasonably sound assumption and look at others that are far, far less likely and scoff.

Look dude, it's uncomfortable. We all felt it when a dude went off his nut and shot at senators playing baseball. That's not what we wanted. No one on his side of the political debate wanted that dude to do what he did. It sucked. This shit happens. Closing your eyes really tight and clicking your heels and hoping really hard that it wasn't exactly what it seems, an ideologically motivated attack at exactly who it was targeted, it's not going to make it go away.
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Postby Free Tristania » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:07 am

Ifreann wrote:
Free Tristania wrote:You didn't need any evidence with Kavenaugh.

Was Kav sent a mail bomb as well? Or are you trying to derail the thread?

He was dragged through the court of left-wing opinion without even the slighest bit of evidence. We should start using the same standards with the Left.
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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:08 am

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Ahh. So I guess 9/11 was about getting the military into the ME?

Guess what: it wouldn't even surprise me if this was the case. It remains funny that the nr.1 military force in the world, couldn't get a single plane up in the air on that date. But I digress.


The logic you use to question 9/11 is the same logic that defeats your conspiracy about the Democrats.
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Postby US-SSR » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:08 am

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Uiiop wrote:Even if some of them didn't that does not determine whether their fascist or not
Plenty of fascists didn't beat people up.

Left-wing hypocrisy at its finest then. Hope you'll lose in November.


Hope in one hand and crap in the other, let us know which fills up. Hypocrisy is mailing bombs to your opponents and running them over with cars while whining when they interrupt your dinner.
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Postby Free Tristania » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:09 am

Uiiop wrote:
Free Tristania wrote:Oh yes. But when does coincidence stop being coincidence.

When there's an actual evidence of causality other than "But it was convenient".
Pure association doesn't count being the cause.

It worked for the Left during the Kavenaugh case. Hey: we can't use different standards now, can we ?
So the Left is guilty until proven innocent - and then they're still guilty.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:09 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Was Kav sent a mail bomb as well? Or are you trying to derail the thread?

He was dragged through the court of left-wing opinion without even the slighest bit of evidence. We should start using the same standards with the Left.

So you're trying to derail the thread.

I wonder why you don't want us discussing the bombing campaign against prominent critics of Trump.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:09 am

Free Tristania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah body slamming a reporter is perfectly acceptable. And with your crazy accusations you would be a awful detective or investigator

Violence has always been perfectly respectable in the eyes of the Left.


And yet it was a Republican candidate now House member who assaulted the reporter. But if a democrat did it you'd be calling for the their withdrawal.

Dont become a police officer or a investigator. Your lack of objectivity would get you fired.
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:09 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Even if some of them didn't that does not determine whether their fascist or not
Plenty of fascists didn't beat people up.

Left-wing hypocrisy at its finest then. Hope you'll lose in November.

Uhh...how so? I hate people who beat others up no matter who does. I just don't call someone fascist just because of that.

Is my hypocrisy just implying that maybe just one guy out the whole may have done something? Or is because i don't spend your posts agree with you?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:09 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:No one on his side of the political debate wanted that dude to do what he did.


I feel like that's a bit disingenuous to say. Sure I'd accept that you didn't want that to happen but there's more than a few people I've seen celebrate the action online. We're just living in that sort of age.
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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:09 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Uiiop wrote:When there's an actual evidence of causality other than "But it was convenient".
Pure association doesn't count being the cause.

It worked for the Left during the Kavenaugh case. Hey: we can't use different standards now, can we ?


Your consistent efforts to derail the thread into a Kavanaugh debate are noted.
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Postby Free Tristania » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:10 am

Ifreann wrote:
Free Tristania wrote:He was dragged through the court of left-wing opinion without even the slighest bit of evidence. We should start using the same standards with the Left.

So you're trying to derail the thread.

I wonder why you don't want us discussing the bombing campaign against prominent critics of Trump.

Merely keeping the Left to their own standards. Guilty even when proven innocent.
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Postby Free Tristania » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:10 am

So, we will find out who did it soon enough. But using their own standards: it will always be "Democrats".
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Postby Heloin » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:11 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:So you're trying to derail the thread.

I wonder why you don't want us discussing the bombing campaign against prominent critics of Trump.

Merely keeping the Left to their own standards. Guilty even proven innocent.

What does anything your saying have to do with attemped bombings?

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Postby Communist Xomaniax » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:11 am

Free Tristania wrote:So, we will find out who did it soon enough. But using their own standards: it will always be "Democrats".

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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:11 am

Free Tristania wrote:Merely keeping the Left to their own standards.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:11 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:So you're trying to derail the thread.

I wonder why you don't want us discussing the bombing campaign against prominent critics of Trump.

Merely keeping the Left to their own standards. Guilty even proven innocent.


We don't know who did it! But there is no evidence of a false flag. A republican candidate assaulting a reporter is ok to you? But if a Democratic did it would it also be ok?

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:12 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:So you're trying to derail the thread.

I wonder why you don't want us discussing the bombing campaign against prominent critics of Trump.

Merely keeping the Left to their own standards. Guilty even when proven innocent.


Yup. Thread derail attempt.
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Postby Painisia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:12 am

My goodness. It seems that Democrats have always been the target of false-flag accusations, particularly from a (censored)-wing community.

But George Bush, a Republican, was also the piñata doll when it came to false flag accusations.
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Postby Free Tristania » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:12 am

San Lumen wrote:
Free Tristania wrote:Violence has always been perfectly respectable in the eyes of the Left.


And yet it was a Republican candidate now House member who assaulted the reporter. But if a democrat did it you'd be calling for the their withdrawal.

Dont become a police officer or a investigator. Your lack of objectivity would get you fired.

Hey. I am merely using the Left's own standards. It worked well within the ranks of the Soviet secret police or their other commie counterparts - or with the likes of CNN, Huff Post, Salon etc.
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