Mail Bombs Sent to Clintons and Obama (Man Arrested)

[San Lumen]

No evidence to support it being a false flag, loads to support it being a genuine attempt to harm or kill Trump critics. Yeah, no one is gonna suggest convicting someone based on folks online going on about it, but we can probably assume it isn't a false flag until actual evidence shows up.

I'd say it's more an attempt to scare people tbh

We're at 10 packages now and not a single detonation. It's very much seeming like, at least to me, to be a psychological thing.

That doesn't mean there won't be one. it could also be a very poor bomb maker. The Unabomber wasn't very good either.

[Caracasus]

You're looking at things from the wrong angle then. There's more than enough evidence to suggest some dipshit making bombs and posting them out of a personal grudge against trump critics and zero evidence to suggest a false flag operation. It's a thought, but so's 'I wonder if there are any jaffa cakes left?' It adds bugger all to the discussion.

Yea, if you're wearing blinders and looking in a single direction, maybe.

We have a word for this type of logical fallacy. it's called an argument from ignorance. Just because there's nothing to suggest otherwise doesn't mean it has to be a right-winger.

Loads of actual evidence to support someone with a grudge against trump critics doing it, fuck all to support it being a false flag and you are suggesting it might be.

I tend to call that the logical fallacy of talking out of your arse.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The Unabomber wasn't very good either.

:thonk:

[Harelia]

Except when you assume you make an ass out of u and me.

No evidence to support it being a false flag, loads to support it being a genuine attempt to harm or kill Trump critics. Yeah, no one is gonna suggest convicting someone based on folks online going on about it, but we can probably assume it isn't a false flag until actual evidence shows up.

Doesn't mean people can't keep an open mind instead of bandwagoning.

[Liriena]

You're looking at things from the wrong angle then. There's more than enough evidence to suggest some dipshit making bombs and posting them out of a personal grudge against trump critics and zero evidence to suggest a false flag operation. It's a thought, but so's 'I wonder if there are any jaffa cakes left?' It adds bugger all to the discussion.

Yea, if you're wearing blinders and looking in a single direction, maybe.

We have a word for this type of logical fallacy. it's called an argument from ignorance. Just because there's nothing to suggest otherwise doesn't mean it has to be a right-winger.

Every single target of this was a prominent critic or opponent of Donald Trump. Preponderance of evidence suggests a right-winger.

[Republic of Turbin]

at this point it feel like such a hoax probably set up by some large organization in order to produce fear before the midterms, at this point it doesn't make much sense to me that that somebody would be able to make a bomb and then be so incompetent at the end.Like i mean its not possible that someone would do this 9 times each one fails and still try this clearly just an attempt to generate fear and disunity before the elections.and the worst part is that we know this and we cant fo anything because we cant do anything.at the end of the day this really is a waste of time and shows in my opinion how idiotic and failures are the radical organizations of America.

please stop with the false flag accusations. it does not reflect very well on you or others

It’s my belief I’m not enforcing it on anyone.

[Caracasus]

No evidence to support it being a false flag, loads to support it being a genuine attempt to harm or kill Trump critics. Yeah, no one is gonna suggest convicting someone based on folks online going on about it, but we can probably assume it isn't a false flag until actual evidence shows up.

I'd say it's more an attempt to scare people tbh

We're at 10 packages now and not a single detonation. It's very much seeming like, at least to me, to be a psychological thing.

Fair point. Still given they are explosives, I am guessing that when they are caught they will be treated as if they did try to kill or maim.

[Harelia]

Yea, if you're wearing blinders and looking in a single direction, maybe.

We have a word for this type of logical fallacy. it's called an argument from ignorance. Just because there's nothing to suggest otherwise doesn't mean it has to be a right-winger.

Loads of actual evidence to support someone with a grudge against trump critics doing it, fuck all to support it being a false flag and you are suggesting it might be.

I tend to call that the logical fallacy of talking out of your arse.

Prove it's a right-winger doing it then.

You can't, can you? Exactly.

[Harelia]

Yea, if you're wearing blinders and looking in a single direction, maybe.

We have a word for this type of logical fallacy. it's called an argument from ignorance. Just because there's nothing to suggest otherwise doesn't mean it has to be a right-winger.

Every single target of this was a prominent critic or opponent of Donald Trump. Preponderance of evidence suggests a right-winger.

'Suggests' doesn't mean it is.

[Liriena]

please stop with the false flag accusations. it does not reflect very well on you or others

It’s my belief I’m not enforcing it on anyone.

Oh, sure, you are not "enforcing" it, but that doesn't mean we cannot criticize it for being baseless, wishful thinking bullshit.

[Liriena]

Every single target of this was a prominent critic or opponent of Donald Trump. Preponderance of evidence suggests a right-winger.

'Suggests' doesn't mean it is.

Of course, but this is the court of public opinion, not a criminal trial. We work with the information publicly available, and the information publicly available points in one direction.

You are just being purposefully obtuse.

[San Lumen]

please stop with the false flag accusations. it does not reflect very well on you or others

It’s my belief I’m not enforcing it on anyone.

It doesn't make it right. A false flag is a very serious accusation and it makes you sound like a crazy person.

[Free Tristania]

A migrant convoy and "bombs" being mailed to Democrat big-wigs. Just weeks before the elections they are set to lose ? I call false flag.

[San Lumen]

A migrant convoy and "bombs" being mailed to Democrat big-wigs. Just weeks before the elections they are set to lose ? I call false flag.

And what evidence do you have to support any of that? You make a great detective or investigator

[Xmara]

I mean if the case is that the bombs is defective, then it may just be someone who's had an intricate plan of delivery but terrible with explosives.

My money is one some 4Chan type who googled "how to make bombs"

Same

And as for all the speculation as to why it happened around the midterms, it still was probably some wing nut with a vendetta against the left who thought the midterms would be the right time to send out mail bombs.

[Liriena]

A migrant convoy and "bombs" being mailed to Democrat big-wigs. Just weeks before the elections they are set to lose ? I call false flag.

Your cult-like self-delusion is duly noted.

[RiderSyl]

A migrant convoy and "bombs" being mailed to Democrat big-wigs. Just weeks before the elections they are set to lose ? I call false flag.

If the Democrats are omniscient enough to order migrants to the border and mail bombs to themselves, why would they be set to lose in the first place?

I know these types of conspiracies aren't supposed to be logical, but come on.

[Free Tristania]

A migrant convoy and "bombs" being mailed to Democrat big-wigs. Just weeks before the elections they are set to lose ? I call false flag.

And what evidence do you have to support any of that? You make a great detective or investigator

Always ask yourself this (most people forget that one): "qui bono". Who benefits ?

[Harelia]

'Suggests' doesn't mean it is.

Of course, but this is the court of public opinion, not a criminal trial. We work with the information publicly available, and the information publicly available points in one direction.

You are just being purposefully obtuse.

Man, you'd fit in great in 1878 Salem.

How many witches have you rooted out so far, I wonder?

[Caracasus]

Loads of actual evidence to support someone with a grudge against trump critics doing it, fuck all to support it being a false flag and you are suggesting it might be.

I tend to call that the logical fallacy of talking out of your arse.

Prove it's a right-winger doing it then.

You can't, can you? Exactly.

Well yeah, I am not the FBI or what have you. I don't think it is worth entertaining the possibility it is a false flag unless there's actual evidence.

[San Lumen]

And what evidence do you have to support any of that? You make a great detective or investigator

Always ask yourself this (most people forget that one): "qui bono". Who benefits ?

No one benefits from killing

[The Black Forrest]

No evidence to support it being a false flag, loads to support it being a genuine attempt to harm or kill Trump critics. Yeah, no one is gonna suggest convicting someone based on folks online going on about it, but we can probably assume it isn't a false flag until actual evidence shows up.

I'd say it's more an attempt to scare people tbh

We're at 10 packages now and not a single detonation. It's very much seeming like, at least to me, to be a psychological thing.

It is a psych effort. Even Hitchcock understood this when he explained there is a difference between surprise and suspense. Show the audience explosion and you have surprise for 15 seconds. Tell them there will be an explosion and you will have suspense for 15 minutes.

Now who did this and why is the question. One side suggests a right-wing nutter and the other side suggests a conspiracy theory of an election stunt.

It's fascinating to hear the great divider speak of unity and this is bad and in the next message speaks of it's the medias fault.

[Uiiop]

A migrant convoy and "bombs" being mailed to Democrat big-wigs. Just weeks before the elections they are set to lose ? I call false flag.

Unless convoys are easy for political parties to set up then this proof is lower than most.
Something changing the channel is not a conspiracy.

[Romantic Batman]

It's like those 3AM challenges, people just sending bombs to other people

[Heloin]

And what evidence do you have to support any of that? You make a great detective or investigator

Always ask yourself this (most people forget that one): "qui bono". Who benefits ?

The bomber probably thinks that Trump will.