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Postby Caracasus » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:34 am

Republic of Turbin wrote:at this point it feel like such a hoax probably set up by some large organization in order to produce fear before the midterms, at this point it doesn't make much sense to me that that somebody would be able to make a bomb and then be so incompetent at the end.Like i mean its not possible that someone would do this 9 times each one fails and still try this clearly just an attempt to generate fear and disunity before the elections.and the worst part is that we know this and we cant fo anything because we cant do anything.at the end of the day this really is a waste of time and shows in my opinion how idiotic and failures are the radical organizations of America.


Actual working reliable bombs are fairly hard to make and for reasonably self evident reasons, it's rather hard for most people to find out how and get the materials needed to do so. Mail bombs even more so because it's got to be stable enough not to go bang when it's going through the post but will reliably go off when someone opens it. It's equally likely that the bombs were recognised as weird packages and called in before being opened. Perhaps they would have gone off if they'd been opened?

It seems quite likely in this case that someone would make a batch of crap bombs in their basement or garage and mail them out to people. It's usually best to assume the most likely explanation is true before making far reaching statements about hoaxes or large organisations behind it. This'll likely be some dipshit with a grudge against Trump critics.
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Postby Ism » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:34 am

San Lumen wrote:
Republic of Turbin wrote:at this point it feel like such a hoax probably set up by some large organization in order to produce fear before the midterms, at this point it doesn't make much sense to me that that somebody would be able to make a bomb and then be so incompetent at the end.Like i mean its not possible that someone would do this 9 times each one fails and still try this clearly just an attempt to generate fear and disunity before the elections.and the worst part is that we know this and we cant fo anything because we cant do anything.at the end of the day this really is a waste of time and shows in my opinion how idiotic and failures are the radical organizations of America.


please stop with the false flag accusations. it does not reflect very well on you or others


I don’t think he’s saying it’s a false flag, but that the bombs weren’t meant to kill anyone, just terrify them.

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Postby Tobleste » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:37 am

Ism wrote:
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please stop with the false flag accusations. it does not reflect very well on you or others


I don’t think he’s saying it’s a false flag, but that the bombs weren’t meant to kill anyone, just terrify them.


It could well be some alt right type thinking this is "making memes". I talked once with a trump supporter who interpreted everything Trump did as a meme which meant that he was always being satirical even if offensive.

Basically the majority of Trump supporters are idiots or unpredictable so may have done this badly to kill people or wanted to just freak people out. That said, it's not impossible that some left wing loon did this. I agree it's unlikely and many of the people suggesting this wouldn't care if those bombs went off but the chances of it being true are above 0.
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Postby Imarssia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:40 am

So it was coordinated enough to not only get the Clintons and Obama, but also Soros and CNN now, and yet they failed to make even one of them detonate? Also it's pretty obvious that none of these people open their own mail.

Not to mention that it's very convenient that this happened right before the midterms; not saying it's a setup but I will point that out.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:45 am

Imarssia wrote:So it was coordinated enough to not only get the Clintons and Obama, but also Soros and CNN now, and yet they failed to make even one of them detonate?

It's almost like bomb-making and mail delivery are totally different things.
Also it's pretty obvious that none of these people open their own mail.

Not to mention that it's very convenient that this happened right before the midterms; not saying it's a setup but I will point that out.

So this is the settled narrative now. "They don't open their own mail, and maybe false flag."

ETA: Here's Frank Gaffney, conspiracy theorist and founder of the Center for Security Policy, saying the exact same thing.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:47 am

Imarssia wrote:So it was coordinated enough to not only get the Clintons and Obama, but also Soros and CNN now, and yet they failed to make even one of them detonate? Also it's pretty obvious that none of these people open their own mail.

Not to mention that it's very convenient that this happened right before the midterms; not saying it's a setup but I will point that out.

You're not the first one to peddle this conspiracy bullshit, I think you're about the fifth. No need to play devil's advocate when there are plenty of devils around.
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Postby Page » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:47 am

Ifreann wrote:"They don't open their own mail,


Well, I don't buy this false flag silliness, but that part is true.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:47 am

Imarssia wrote:So it was coordinated enough to not only get the Clintons and Obama, but also Soros and CNN now, and yet they failed to make even one of them detonate? Also it's pretty obvious that none of these people open their own mail.

Not to mention that it's very convenient that this happened right before the midterms; not saying it's a setup but I will point that out.

enough with the false flag accusations. it makes you sound like a crazy person

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:52 am

Page wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"They don't open their own mail,


Well, I don't buy this false flag silliness, but that part is true.

It's true, but it's irrelevant. It's being brought up to downplay the severity of this bombing spree/campaign and raise doubts about whether the people obviously being targeted were really the targets. As if someone might have a grudge against Obama's USSS detail or the CNN mail room.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:01 am

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I mean the big problem with that if it was, it would in a general sense reflect poorly on the election so I doubt there would be any serious candidate that has the capacity to understand election fallout. As few things are more morbid than then electoral terrorism.

Now if it's some insane person whom imagines this can stop the election or somehow make the people rise up against the DNC, as demented as that idea is, stands entirely possible. But I have my doubts that it's organised by say a red-leaning militia.


The "red-leaning militia" is nothing more than a bunch of Berkeley students. My guess is that it was the same people who perpetrated the Comet Ping Pong Pizza incident.

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Postby Painisia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:03 am

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The "red-leaning militia" is nothing more than a bunch of Berkeley students. My guess is that it was the same people who perpetrated the Comet Ping Pong Pizza incident.

The Pizzagate Shooting was a single moron.


I meant the same group of people who hold the same beliefs as the pizza gate shooter. The US is getting dangerously dumbed-down polarized
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:05 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
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The "red-leaning militia" is nothing more than a bunch of Berkeley students. My guess is that it was the same people who perpetrated the Comet Ping Pong Pizza incident.

The Pizzagate Shooting was a single moron.

It’s highly likely this is one as well
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:06 am

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Petrasylvania wrote:The Pizzagate Shooting was a single moron.

It’s highly likely this is one as well


I doubt the courier who delivered the bomb to CNN or Soros's home was the bomber. Though it is possible.
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Postby Page » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:07 am

Often these terrorists act alone but their extremism is cultivated by like minded people, like the incel terrorist in Canada, Elliot Rodger, the Comet Ping Pong shooter. They may not have brought other people in on their murder plan but they insinuate their intentions and are encouraged in the abstract.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:10 am

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Thermodolia wrote:It’s highly likely this is one as well


I doubt the courier who delivered the bomb to CNN or Soros's home was the bomber. Though it is possible.

More than likely it was.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:12 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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I doubt the courier who delivered the bomb to CNN or Soros's home was the bomber. Though it is possible.

More than likely it was.


I could see him having delivered the Soros bomb at least.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:15 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:More than likely it was.


I could see him having delivered the Soros bomb at least.

How do we know its a him?

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:19 am

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I could see him having delivered the Soros bomb at least.

How do we know its a him?

Because these types like to make sure the target received it.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:20 am

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San Lumen wrote:How do we know its a him?

Because these types like to make sure the target received it.


:lol2:

I don't think you read that right buddy and it makes it even funnier
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Thermodolia wrote:Because these types like to make sure the target received it.


:lol2:

I don't think you read that right buddy and it makes it even funnier

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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:24 am

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San Lumen wrote:How do we know its a him?

Because these types like to make sure the target received it.


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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:29 am

To be fair, they were asking for it. Why else would they have a house with a mailbox? They knew what they were getting into.

I mean, when terrorists see a mailbox, they just have this biological urge to put a mailbomb in it.

And the parents of the Obamas, Clintons, etc. should have taught them that this kind of behaviour (having a mailbox) is dangerous and that they run a high risk of getting a mailbomb.

Besides, did the Obamas and Clintons, etc. even say no when the bomb was mailed?
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:29 am

San Lumen wrote:
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I could see him having delivered the Soros bomb at least.

How do we know its a him?

Usually they are, but if I was in the FBI right now I'd be keeping an open mind, female terrorists aren't unheard of.
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Postby Unithonia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:30 am

Well, this should help the Democrats out significantly in the Midterms. I suspect (if there continue to be bombs with no explosions until the midterms) that this could be a political ploy. I am in no way accusing the Democratic party of doing this, but what if the "bomber" is secretly trying to frame right-wingers for attacking political opponents in order to help out their political party? Just a thought.
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Unithonia wrote:Well, this should help the Democrats out significantly in the Midterms. I suspect (if there continue to be bombs with no explosions until the midterms) that this could be a political ploy. I am in no way accusing the Democratic party of doing this, but what if the "bomber" is secretly trying to frame right-wingers for attacking political opponents in order to help out their political party? Just a thought.


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