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Postby Valrifell » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:36 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Presumably they used the United States Postal Service lmao, or FedEx or UPS or something, like anyone would?

Also, one of my friends is an intern at CNN and had to get evacuated yesterday, so that was fun for him :///

Hand. Delivered.


The Soros bomb was hand delivered, others were intercepted in the mail which is hard to do if they were hand delivered.
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Postby Harelia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:46 am

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Petrasylvania wrote:Hand. Delivered.


The Soros bomb was hand delivered, others were intercepted in the mail which is hard to do if they were hand delivered.


So you're saying our culprit for the mail delivered one has no hands... :ugeek:
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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:49 am

Has anyone gotten a map of the targets? Are they localised or country-wide?
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Postby Harelia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:51 am

Herskerstad wrote:Has anyone gotten a map of the targets? Are they localised or country-wide?


it sounds like these are being sent all over the nation to just random targets of high political standing.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:51 am

Word on the street is that the bombs are made of PVC pipe, which isn't exactly the best material if you're trying to kill people.
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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:52 am

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Herskerstad wrote:Has anyone gotten a map of the targets? Are they localised or country-wide?


it sounds like these are being sent all over the nation to just random targets of high political standing.


Presumably if it's hand delivered in a lot of these instances then that means it would be easier to find the target.
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Postby Harelia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:55 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Word on the street is that the bombs are made of PVC pipe, which isn't exactly the best material if you're trying to kill people.


"Let's make a PVC pipe bomb!"

"Why?"

"So it explodes out TWO ends!"

"Genius."
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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:56 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Word on the street is that the bombs are made of PVC pipe, which isn't exactly the best material if you're trying to kill people.


"Let's make a PVC pipe bomb!"

"Why?"

"So it explodes out TWO ends!"

"Genius."


I mean if the case is that the bombs is defective, then it may just be someone who's had an intricate plan of delivery but terrible with explosives.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:57 am

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Harelia wrote:
"Let's make a PVC pipe bomb!"

"Why?"

"So it explodes out TWO ends!"

"Genius."


I mean if the case is that the bombs is defective, then it may just be someone who's had an intricate plan of delivery but terrible with explosives.

that is very possible

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Postby Page » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:59 am

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I mean if the case is that the bombs is defective, then it may just be someone who's had an intricate plan of delivery but terrible with explosives.


My money is one some 4Chan type who googled "how to make bombs"
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Postby Seangoli » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:59 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Word on the street is that the bombs are made of PVC pipe, which isn't exactly the best material if you're trying to kill people.


Pipe bombs are not as deadly as people make them out to be. Even the Unabomber bombs "only" killed 3 out of about 20 where the bomb detonated. Kaczynski was a very well educated person with extensive knowledge on explosives, and created far more sophisticated devices.


By all accounts so far from law enforcement, these explosives are pretty rudimentary however very much active and dangerous. Either the person making them grossly overestimates their effectiveness, or their intent was more so to cause panic, maim, amd semd a message than it was to kill people.

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Postby Caracasus » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:01 am

Harelia wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:Has anyone gotten a map of the targets? Are they localised or country-wide?


it sounds like these are being sent all over the nation to just random targets of high political standing.


I don't know about random targets of high political standing. The main common factor seems to be people who have been perceived as something of an enemy of Trump or opposed to him somehow. Ex director of the CIA who had a very public spat, an actor who criticised Trump quite openly and of course the Clintons and Obama goes without saying. It looks like the devices are pretty shoddy from what has been seen so far, though obviously that doesn't make them any less potentially dangerous really.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:02 am

Herskerstad wrote:Has anyone gotten a map of the targets? Are they localised or country-wide?


There is a list of targets and a map at the bottom of this article

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45975447
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Postby Page » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:02 am

Seangoli wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Word on the street is that the bombs are made of PVC pipe, which isn't exactly the best material if you're trying to kill people.


Pipe bombs are not as deadly as people make them out to be. Even the Unabomber bombs "only" killed 3 out of about 20 where the bomb detonated. Kaczynski was a very well educated person with extensive knowledge on explosives, and created far more sophisticated devices.


By all accounts so far from law enforcement, these explosives are pretty rudimentary however very much active and dangerous. Either the person making them grossly overestimates their effectiveness, or their intent was more so to cause panic, maim, amd semd a message than it was to kill people.


Probably both, bombers are a narcissistic lot.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:03 am

Seangoli wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Word on the street is that the bombs are made of PVC pipe, which isn't exactly the best material if you're trying to kill people.


Pipe bombs are not as deadly as people make them out to be. Even the Unabomber bombs "only" killed 3 out of about 20 where the bomb detonated. Kaczynski was a very well educated person with extensive knowledge on explosives, and created far more sophisticated devices.


By all accounts so far from law enforcement, these explosives are pretty rudimentary however very much active and dangerous. Either the person making them grossly overestimates their effectiveness, or their intent was more so to cause panic, maim, amd semd a message than it was to kill people.


As I went over a few pages ago I very much think it's the latter. Tbqh I'm not sure any of them would even go off because of how poorly made the ones we've seen have been.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:06 am

Ceci n'est pas une pipe bombe?
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Postby Painisia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:12 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Word on the street is that the bombs are made of PVC pipe, which isn't exactly the best material if you're trying to kill people.


Which makes the case for a potential amateur mind behind all of this. If something as organized as those right-wing groups or die-hard Republicans wanted to send pipe bombs to their opponents, they would have carried it out earlier than 2018

Possibly a Trump QAnon hillbilly, an alt-right 4chan user, radical Republicans or some neighborhood guy who wanted some action in his life
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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:16 am

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I mean if the case is that the bombs is defective, then it may just be someone who's had an intricate plan of delivery but terrible with explosives.


My money is one some 4Chan type who googled "how to make bombs"


I mean a ton of things are suspect, and there are of course a lot of unhelpful rumours floating around. But the delivery is so rapid I'd be amazed if the FBI does have a suspect soon.
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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:20 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Word on the street is that the bombs are made of PVC pipe, which isn't exactly the best material if you're trying to kill people.


Which makes the case for a potential amateur mind behind all of this. If something as organized as those right-wing groups or die-hard Republicans wanted to send pipe bombs to their opponents, they would have carried it out earlier than 2018


I mean the big problem with that if it was, it would in a general sense reflect poorly on the election so I doubt there would be any serious candidate that has the capacity to understand election fallout. As few things are more morbid than then electoral terrorism.

Now if it's some insane person whom imagines this can stop the election or somehow make the people rise up against the DNC, as demented as that idea is, stands entirely possible. But I have my doubts that it's organised by say a red-leaning militia.
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Postby Caracasus » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:23 am

The targets and the shoddy bombs do kind of point to some alt right dipshit googling 'how to make a bomb' and blowing their allowance on postage stamps.
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Postby Painisia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:24 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Painisia wrote:
Which makes the case for a potential amateur mind behind all of this. If something as organized as those right-wing groups or die-hard Republicans wanted to send pipe bombs to their opponents, they would have carried it out earlier than 2018


I mean the big problem with that if it was, it would in a general sense reflect poorly on the election so I doubt there would be any serious candidate that has the capacity to understand election fallout. As few things are more morbid than then electoral terrorism.

Now if it's some insane person whom imagines this can stop the election or somehow make the people rise up against the DNC, as demented as that idea is, stands entirely possible. But I have my doubts that it's organised by say a red-leaning militia.


The "red-leaning militia" is nothing more than a bunch of Berkeley students. My guess is that it was the same people who perpetrated the Comet Ping Pong Pizza incident.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:28 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Ceci n'est pas une pipe bombe?

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Postby Republic of Turbin » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:28 am

at this point it feel like such a hoax probably set up by some large organization in order to produce fear before the midterms, at this point it doesn't make much sense to me that that somebody would be able to make a bomb and then be so incompetent at the end.Like i mean its not possible that someone would do this 9 times each one fails and still try this clearly just an attempt to generate fear and disunity before the elections.and the worst part is that we know this and we cant fo anything because we cant do anything.at the end of the day this really is a waste of time and shows in my opinion how idiotic and failures are the radical organizations of America.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:31 am

Republic of Turbin wrote:at this point it feel like such a hoax probably set up by some large organization in order to produce fear before the midterms, at this point it doesn't make much sense to me that that somebody would be able to make a bomb and then be so incompetent at the end.Like i mean its not possible that someone would do this 9 times each one fails and still try this clearly just an attempt to generate fear and disunity before the elections.and the worst part is that we know this and we cant fo anything because we cant do anything.at the end of the day this really is a waste of time and shows in my opinion how idiotic and failures are the radical organizations of America.


please stop with the false flag accusations. it does not reflect very well on you or others

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Postby Painisia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:33 am

Republic of Turbin wrote:at this point it feel like such a hoax probably set up by some large organization in order to produce fear before the midterms, at this point it doesn't make much sense to me that that somebody would be able to make a bomb and then be so incompetent at the end.Like i mean its not possible that someone would do this 9 times each one fails and still try this clearly just an attempt to generate fear and disunity before the elections.and the worst part is that we know this and we cant fo anything because we cant do anything.at the end of the day this really is a waste of time and shows in my opinion how idiotic and failures are the radical organizations of America.



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