Mail Bombs Sent to Clintons and Obama (Man Arrested)

[Uxupox]

I still believe that the truth will come out, it'll take some time but they will come to their senses, I've believed it throughout this entire presidency. Unlike most partisans I fail to recognize the retarded idea that half the country is morally bankrupt and retarded, that's is a retarded view.

Well it’s not half the country but it only needs be 20-25% for it to be a problem, especially when a dominant media and the president are only to happy to fuel it.

Because part of the problem is the language, where we say “Republicans are..” or “ Democrats are..” when both have varied beliefs and levels of extremity in them but we paste the worst over the whole.

There’s.. there’s some very fine people on.. both sides..

..dammit.

very fine people indeed.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

... It won't. And this isn't exactly the first example of right-wing violence. Not in America and certainly not in the world.

However this is indisputable and can't be argued to not been violent.


This will be hard for Trump to spin as a hoax.

9/11, the Holocaust, Apollo 11, vaccines, and even the fucking shape of the Earth itself all have very popular conspiracy theories about them even though overwhelming evidence exists to disprove them all.

Facts don't matter to stupid people.

[Olerand]

I have more faith in our citizens.

Recommended viewing. It's a video about the Quebec mosque shooting and the evolution of the far-right narrative on what happened there, drawing primarily from Free Republic, a den of far right lunatics. You can bet your bottom dollar that the behaviour demonstrated in this video is exactly what is happening in the nuttier, Nazi-er corners of the internet this evening.

Check the official channel of communication, Twitter.

Twitter is for twits. Let the FBI do their investigation. Then we will find oit.

At his Wisconsin rally where Trump tried to appear as a uniting figure, his crowd broke out into lock her up chants against Hillary Clinton, who had received a bomb.

[Ethel mermania]

Recommended viewing. It's a video about the Quebec mosque shooting and the evolution of the far-right narrative on what happened there, drawing primarily from Free Republic, a den of far right lunatics. You can bet your bottom dollar that the behaviour demonstrated in this video is exactly what is happening in the nuttier, Nazi-er corners of the internet this evening.

Twitter is for twits. Let the FBI do their investigation. Then we will find oit.

At his Wisconsin rally where Trump tried to appear as a uniting figure, his crowd broke out into lock her up chants against Hillary Clinton, who had received a bomb.

There Is a difference between chanting at a rally. And mailing a bomb.

[Olerand]

At his Wisconsin rally where Trump tried to appear as a uniting figure, his crowd broke out into lock her up chants against Hillary Clinton, who had received a bomb.

There Is a difference between chanting at a rally. And mailing a bomb.

When Hillary is mailed a bomb, and everyone knows about it, and your response is "Lock Her Up", what does that mean?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Well it’s not half the country but it only needs be 20-25% for it to be a problem, especially when a dominant media and the president are only to happy to fuel it.

Because part of the problem is the language, where we say “Republicans are..” or “ Democrats are..” when both have varied beliefs and levels of extremity in them but we paste the worst over the whole.

There’s.. there’s some very fine people on.. both sides..

..dammit.

I think it'll be only 10-15% when it reaches it importance climax.

I have faith because we are Americans. We are America.

That's nice and patriotic. Unfortunately, patriotism is dead in America. There is only tribalism.

[Olerand]

That's nice and patriotic. Unfortunately, patriotism is dead in America. There is only tribalism.

Patriotic?

No. It's because we were raised on the ideas of virtue, liberty, justice. I feel at least 80% still have those views and hate tribalism. I have hope someone will solve this.

There Is a difference between chanting at a rally. And mailing a bomb.

When Hillary is mailed a bomb, and everyone knows about it, and your response is "Lock Her Up", what does that mean?

[Bombadil]

Well it’s not half the country but it only needs be 20-25% for it to be a problem, especially when a dominant media and the president are only to happy to fuel it.

Because part of the problem is the language, where we say “Republicans are..” or “ Democrats are..” when both have varied beliefs and levels of extremity in them but we paste the worst over the whole.

There’s.. there’s some very fine people on.. both sides..

..dammit.

I think it'll be only 10-15% when it reaches it importance climax.

I have faith because we are Americans. We are America.

Well alas even that 15% are indulged and excused by another 15-20%, some people simply cannot accept even the slightest criticism of Trump even though he’s quite clearly a self serving, narcissistic deranged loon with a persecution complex.

[Dahon]

Perhaps the Democrats shouldn't have cultivated this high pressure near-boiling-point culture.

All eyes on Maxine Waters.

wew lad

Trump newer breed any lunatics or psychopaths. Not a single one. These people exist on their own and are of such a state that they can get triggered by pretty much anything and everything. And they do so because they are insane. There is no way anyone can predict if his words or actions will trigger such a person because they are insane. So it's insane to blame the people that don't.

Just to give an example, anyone remember Charles Manson? You know, the insane cult leader who calmed he was god, had a swastika tattooed on his forehead and ordered the murder of a bunch of innocents including a pregnant women? He was triggered by a Beatles album. Yes, you heard it right. Charles Manson did what he did because he believed the Beatles told him to so that he could start a race war.

Bottom line is that madmen will be madmen. And we can't blame the people whose words and actions they insanely latch on to. Because that can happen to anyone including us. Right now, some lunatic could be reading this forum and decide that my words are prophetic and he needs to genocide all the firstborn babies in Zimbabwe or something. That's just how lunatics work.

As someone who got all... troubled in the mind... when Trump won the presidency, I'll say this: a lunatic is not a blank slate. He will act when something makes enough of an impression on him to bid him to act.

Let's not divorce Trump's rhetoric from this guy's actions, shan't we? That this man was crazy and willing enough to be violent can, in one sense, be a morbid hallmark of honesty.

So then how does that attribute to the actions of Sayoc being Trump's fault?

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/stochastic-terrorism

stochastic terrorism
[stuh-kas-tik ter-uh-riz-uh m]
Word Origin
noun
the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted:
The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism.

*sees more posts of this type*
*infinity sympathy pat*

Glad they caught the guy. He better go away for a long time.

Also can we all just agree that violence is bad and that both sides have their crazies?

Adequate in other times and contexts, insufficient for the present moment -- too many Trump supporters are living in denial, and more importantly, Trump's starting shit up.

[Ethel mermania]

There Is a difference between chanting at a rally. And mailing a bomb.

When Hillary is mailed a bomb, and everyone knows about it, and your response is "Lock Her Up", what does that mean?

It means your a reflexive idiot, not a bomb maker.

[Jerzyland]

At his Wisconsin rally where Trump tried to appear as a uniting figure, his crowd broke out into lock her up chants against Hillary Clinton, who had received a bomb.

There Is a difference between chanting at a rally. And mailing a bomb.

So the nut whisperer's tiny hands are clean per your view?

[Olerand]

When Hillary is mailed a bomb, and everyone knows about it, and your response is "Lock Her Up", what does that mean?

It means your a reflexive idiot, not a bomb maker.

Did I say they were bomb makers? Here's what I said:

However this is indisputable and can't be argued to not been violent.


This will be hard for Trump to spin as a hoax.

Not really. His base, and the American (far)right's media stars have already accepted that it is a false flag.

EDIT: Or at best, a singular lunatic.

[Dahon]

However this is indisputable and can't be argued to not been violent.


This will be hard for Trump to spin as a hoax.

He hardly needs to try..

“I bet $500 they are lying,” he said. “I bet it was a liberal who did it. Have you stopped to think why those bombs were only sent to high-level Democrats? They are trying to make it look like Donald Trump is encouraging terrorism.”

He added: “The truth is, the liberals are the terrorists.”

His wife agreed.

“It seems like a lot’s been planted to make it look like a Trump supporter did it,” said Carrie Pennington, 48.

Delirium Tremens, indeed.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

It's because we were raised on the ideas of virtue, liberty, justice.

That is not and has never been true.

[Mystic Warriors]

A Trump supporter does this, Trump has been advocating violence and riling up his base with fearmongering. Logically it's all Democrats fault.

[Ethel mermania]

There Is a difference between chanting at a rally. And mailing a bomb.

So the nut whisperer's tiny hands are clean per your view?

Not completely, his rhetoric is overboard. But in terms of the underlying point of what he is saying, I think he is right more often than wrong.

[Ethel mermania]

It means your a reflexive idiot, not a bomb maker.

Did I say they were bomb makers? Here's what I said:

Not really. His base, and the American (far)right's media stars have already accepted that it is a false flag.

EDIT: Or at best, a singular lunatic.

I was answering the question you asked.

[Jerzyland]

It's because we were raised on the ideas of virtue, liberty, justice.

That is not and has never been true.

Yeah, only bc Superman shot himself in the head.

[Olerand]

Did I say they were bomb makers? Here's what I said:

I was answering the question you asked.

Where did I ask if they were bomb makers? I asked, and I repeat, if Hillary is sent a bomb, and you know about it, and you chant lock her up, what does that mean?

I never posited bomb makers as one of the options.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

That is not and has never been true.

Yeah, only bc Superman shot himself in the head.

?

[Bombadil]

So the nut whisperer's tiny hands are clean per your view?

Not completely, his rhetoric is overboard. But in terms of the underlying point of what he is saying, I think he is right more often than wrong.

JUST LIKE HITLER EH!!

Yeah, I went there.. I godwinned the thread.

[Ethel mermania]

I was answering the question you asked.

Where did I ask if they were bomb makers? I asked, and I repeat, if Hillary is sent a bomb, and you know about it, and you chant lock her up, what does that mean?

I never posited bomb makers as one of the options.

1. You dont get to set the parameters of my answers.
2. I never claimed you said "bomb makers", you are reading things that are not there.
3. I answered your question.. try reading the whole sentence.

[Jerzyland]

So the nut whisperer's tiny hands are clean per your view?

Not completely, his rhetoric is overboard. But in terms of the underlying point of what he is saying, I think he is right more often than wrong.

When the underlying point goes overboard it's pretty muddy down there where those shark bubbles blow... and keep in mind Trump is scared of sharks and that's not wrong.

Maybe this bombing episode will scare him enough to finally fear the eternal sea (not the movie)?
*awkward pause*
Right. Who are we kidding?

[Fartsniffage]

Not completely, his rhetoric is overboard. But in terms of the underlying point of what he is saying, I think he is right more often than wrong.

JUST LIKE HITLER EH!!

Yeah, I went there.. I godwinned the thread.

He's just saying what everyone is thinking...

[Olerand]

Where did I ask if they were bomb makers? I asked, and I repeat, if Hillary is sent a bomb, and you know about it, and you chant lock her up, what does that mean?

I never posited bomb makers as one of the options.

1. You dont get to set the parameters of my answers.
2. I never claimed you said "bomb makers", you are reading things that are not there.
3. I answered your question.. try reading the whole sentence.

Considering that all of your answers were an attempt to claim that my original post was not true, I think I do. I have been arguing with that logical continuity in mind. If you are thinking otherwise, then we're not having the same discussion.