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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:31 pm

Olerand wrote:
Telconi wrote:
B-B-ut Charlottesville!

Where people actually died...

And where we now know that the far right marchers had planned to get violent.
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Postby Phoenicaea » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:32 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So can we call this a right-wing nutbag now?

They could be a anarchist for all I know and care


anarchists are more often serious, when it comes at their sarcasm. anarchists wouldn t more often send gifts to whoever merely because he-she is famous.
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Postby Tobleste » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:32 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
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So...

1. Bombs were sent to democrats
2. Bombs were seemingly sent by a republican.

Obviously democrats need to tone down their rhetoric.

"If you Dems weren't so uppity nobody would have sent the bombs to you."


Exactly! If they supported their prezident, they'd be fine.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:33 pm

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Liriena wrote:[citation needed]

But also, lady doth protest too much


I'm pretty suspicious of the constant moaning about "antifa". There's dozens of well-known alt right leaders (e.g. Milo), neo Nazis (e.g. Spencer), fake intellectuals (e.g. DiSouza) and conspiracy theorists (e.g. Jones) but i don't know anyone who leads antifa or prominently supports them.

If the right-wing memes commonly shared by mushy-brained boomers are anything to go by, the only one they can come up with is the bike lock guy.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:33 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:"If you Dems weren't so uppity nobody would have sent the bombs to you."


Exactly! If they supported their prezident, they'd be fine.


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Postby Loben » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:33 pm

Olerand wrote:
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B-B-ut Charlottesville!

Where people actually died...

One person died because apparently getting out of the way of a speeding car was difficult.

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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:34 pm

Liriena wrote:
Olerand wrote:Where people actually died...

And where we now know that the far right marchers had planned to get violent.


They expected antifa violence and planned to meet violence with violence
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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:34 pm

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Liriena wrote:"I wasn't going to try to assassinate a bunch of people, but then I saw a bunch of you peacefully march with pink hats on and criticize my big wet adult son of a president and I just lost control."

Sounds like it's time to send Republicans off to internment camps. Clearly they're all too dangerous to be a part of general society.

inb4 someone unironically agrees

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Postby Olerand » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:34 pm

Loben wrote:
Olerand wrote:Where people actually died...

One person died because apparently getting out of the way of a speeding car was difficult.

So you deny that he intended to hit people? If so, he is falsely on trial now, no?
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Postby Loben » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:35 pm

Olerand wrote:
Loben wrote:One person died because apparently getting out of the way of a speeding car was difficult.

So you deny that he intended to hit her? If so, he is falsely on trial now, no?


no.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:35 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Liriena wrote:And where we now know that the far right marchers had planned to get violent.


They expected antifa violence and planned to meet violence with violence

Is that why they surrounded and beat up peaceful counter-protestors and at least one of them attempted to shoot unarmed people?
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Postby Olerand » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:35 pm

Loben wrote:
Olerand wrote:So you deny that he intended to hit her? If so, he is falsely on trial now, no?


no.

So he wanted to hit her? I just want to clarify your statement. Who is at fault? Her for not moving?
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Postby Harelia » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:36 pm

Olerand wrote:
Telconi wrote:
B-B-ut Charlottesville!

Where people actually died...


Where only one person was killed, but still.

I'm all for letting Nazi's have their air time and march around and use their freedom of speech and what have you. Because you know. Freedom! But that's what's great about America. If Nazi's appear, people can go up and be like

"I see what you're doing. And I respect your right to come out here. But I disagree with your way of thinking."

However the guy who killed that woman with his car was absolutely unjustified and very much deserved to be locked up. However I refuse to take away the rights of the others who were there that didn't try mowing a crowd of people over, simply because I disagree with them.
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Postby Loben » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:36 pm

Olerand wrote:
Loben wrote:
no.

So he wanted to hit her? I just want to clarify your statement. Who is at fault? Her for not moving?


Could be 50/50.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:37 pm

Loben wrote:
Olerand wrote:So you deny that he intended to hit her? If so, he is falsely on trial now, no?


no.


But it's her fault for not getting out of the way. Obviously.

Victim blaming still makes my eyes roll out of my skull.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:39 pm

Harelia wrote:"I see what you're doing. And I respect your right to come out here. But I disagree with your way of thinking."

That's a remarkably tame way to respond to people who literally support gasing the Jews again.
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Postby Olerand » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:39 pm

Harelia wrote:
Olerand wrote:Where people actually died...


Where only one person was killed, but still.

I'm all for letting Nazi's have their air time and march around and use their freedom of speech and what have you. Because you know. Freedom! But that's what's great about America. If Nazi's appear, people can go up and be like

"I see what you're doing. And I respect your right to come out here. But I disagree with your way of thinking."

However the guy who killed that woman with his car was absolutely unjustified and very much deserved to be locked up. However I refuse to take away the rights of the others who were there that didn't try mowing a crowd of people over, simply because I disagree with them.

So people died. So not really comparable to... Being called a Nazi.

I don't care to allow Nazis to march. I support my country's laws.
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Postby Northeast American Federation » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:39 pm

Liriena wrote:
Harelia wrote:"I see what you're doing. And I respect your right to come out here. But I disagree with your way of thinking."

That's a remarkably tame way to respond to people who literally support gasing the Jews again.

They're not in power and never will be. If people come out for a rally, even if you disagree with them vehemently, the answer isn't to line up and beat them senseless or shoot them dead.
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Postby Olerand » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:40 pm

Loben wrote:
Olerand wrote:So he wanted to hit her? I just want to clarify your statement. Who is at fault? Her for not moving?


Could be 50/50.

So she's at fault. So he's wrongfully on trial. She should have moved, the dumb lib.
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Postby Loben » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:40 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Loben wrote:
no.


But it's her fault for not getting out of the way. Obviously.

Victim blaming still makes my eyes roll out of my skull.


i think the term is to the back of your head?

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Postby Valrifell » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:40 pm

Northeast American Federation wrote:
Liriena wrote:That's a remarkably tame way to respond to people who literally support gasing the Jews again.

They're not in power and never will be.


People who think this are why they're getting back into power.
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Postby Loben » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:41 pm

Olerand wrote:
Loben wrote:
Could be 50/50.

So she's at fault. So he's wrongfully on trial. She should have moved, the dumb lib.


or maybe basic survival instinct? who knows.

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Postby Northeast American Federation » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:41 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:They're not in power and never will be.


People who think this are why they're getting back into power.

President Trump is not Hitler.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:41 pm

Liriena wrote:
Harelia wrote:"I see what you're doing. And I respect your right to come out here. But I disagree with your way of thinking."

That's a remarkably tame way to respond to people who literally support gasing the Jews again.


What would you prefer, killing them?
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