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by Torrocca » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:13 pm
by Vassenor » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:17 pm
by Xadufell » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:20 pm
Torrocca wrote:Look, I think people are missing the forest for the trees; Obama can’t have been sent a mail bomb by right-wing terrorists because Obama doesn't exist-there never actually was a black 44th president, and just like the holocaust, AIPAC is rewriting history for political ends. Why is it important to Israel that Americans believe that there was a black president? Two words: Oil.
Grinning Dragon wrote:Why would anyone waste a good bullet on the likes of CNN anyway? I don't understand why anyone would get that worked up over a bunch of dipshits, christ if their shit show is getting you that worked up, just turn the damn thing off and go for a walk/run/ride.
by Trumptonium1 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:22 pm
Torrocca wrote:Look, I think people are missing the forest for the trees; Obama can’t have been sent a mail bomb by right-wing terrorists because Obama doesn't exist-there never actually was a black 44th president, and just like the holocaust, AIPAC is rewriting history for political ends. Why is it important to Israel that Americans believe that there was a black president? Two words: Oil.
by Torrocca » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:22 pm
Xadufell wrote:Torrocca wrote:Look, I think people are missing the forest for the trees; Obama can’t have been sent a mail bomb by right-wing terrorists because Obama doesn't exist-there never actually was a black 44th president, and just like the holocaust, AIPAC is rewriting history for political ends. Why is it important to Israel that Americans believe that there was a black president? Two words: Oil.
I get you're trying to be funny, but it comes off more as you having a stroke.
by Loben » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:23 pm
Trumptonium1 wrote:Torrocca wrote:Look, I think people are missing the forest for the trees; Obama can’t have been sent a mail bomb by right-wing terrorists because Obama doesn't exist-there never actually was a black 44th president, and just like the holocaust, AIPAC is rewriting history for political ends. Why is it important to Israel that Americans believe that there was a black president? Two words: Oil.
You're about as funny as Saturday Night Live.
by Petrasylvania » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:25 pm
Trumptonium1 wrote:Torrocca wrote:Look, I think people are missing the forest for the trees; Obama can’t have been sent a mail bomb by right-wing terrorists because Obama doesn't exist-there never actually was a black 44th president, and just like the holocaust, AIPAC is rewriting history for political ends. Why is it important to Israel that Americans believe that there was a black president? Two words: Oil.
You're about as funny as Saturday Night Live.
by Saiwania » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:25 pm
by Ifreann » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:25 pm
Xadufell wrote:Torrocca wrote:Look, I think people are missing the forest for the trees; Obama can’t have been sent a mail bomb by right-wing terrorists because Obama doesn't exist-there never actually was a black 44th president, and just like the holocaust, AIPAC is rewriting history for political ends. Why is it important to Israel that Americans believe that there was a black president? Two words: Oil.
I get you're trying to be funny, but it comes off more as you having a stroke.
Trumptonium1 wrote:Torrocca wrote:Look, I think people are missing the forest for the trees; Obama can’t have been sent a mail bomb by right-wing terrorists because Obama doesn't exist-there never actually was a black 44th president, and just like the holocaust, AIPAC is rewriting history for political ends. Why is it important to Israel that Americans believe that there was a black president? Two words: Oil.
You're about as funny as Saturday Night Live.
by Torrocca » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:25 pm
Trumptonium1 wrote:Torrocca wrote:Look, I think people are missing the forest for the trees; Obama can’t have been sent a mail bomb by right-wing terrorists because Obama doesn't exist-there never actually was a black 44th president, and just like the holocaust, AIPAC is rewriting history for political ends. Why is it important to Israel that Americans believe that there was a black president? Two words: Oil.
You're about as funny as Saturday Night Live.
by Hadin » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:26 pm
by Petrasylvania » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:26 pm
Genivaria wrote:This is what I get for not watching the news, my GF told me about this over the phone from work.
Is it strange that one of my first thoughts were "wow we really need to get a gun." ?
by Xadufell » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:27 pm
Grinning Dragon wrote:Why would anyone waste a good bullet on the likes of CNN anyway? I don't understand why anyone would get that worked up over a bunch of dipshits, christ if their shit show is getting you that worked up, just turn the damn thing off and go for a walk/run/ride.
by Cannot think of a name » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:28 pm
Saiwania wrote:Obama is to blame for the ACA for the most part, so the motive for revenge with regards to him is clear. His dumb law only destroyed the private health insurance market in all the wrong ways. It had the net effect of increasing access to health insurance but not facilitating its affordability. The only people who benefit are the people who can use Medicaid. All the people who previously had cheaper insurance saw their rates go way up.
What else do you think is going to happen if you force private health insurers to take people with pre-existing conditions and require health insurance plans to cover certain things that a lot of people don't want to pay for? The outcome of course, is that health insurance premiums soar in order to pay for the extra burdens and costs of providing health care to people.
Obama didn't even go all the way, which is to destroy private healthcare entirely with a single payer system.
by Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:28 pm
Genivaria wrote:This is what I get for not watching the news, my GF told me about this over the phone from work.
Is it strange that one of my first thoughts were "wow we really need to get a gun." ?
by Chan Island » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:29 pm
Genivaria wrote:This is what I get for not watching the news, my GF told me about this over the phone from work.
Is it strange that one of my first thoughts were "wow we really need to get a gun." ?
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by The South Falls » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:29 pm
by Chan Island » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:30 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Torrocca » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:30 pm
Saiwania wrote:Obama is to blame for the ACA for the most part, so the motive for revenge with regards to him is clear. His dumb law only destroyed the private health insurance market in all the wrong ways. It had the net effect of increasing access to health insurance but not facilitating its affordability. The only people who benefit are the people who can use Medicaid. All the people who previously had cheaper insurance saw their rates go way up.
What else do you think is going to happen if you force private health insurers to take people with pre-existing conditions and require health insurance plans to cover certain things that a lot of people don't want to pay for? The outcome of course, is that health insurance premiums soar in order to pay for the extra burdens and costs of providing health care to people.
Obama didn't even go all the way, which is to destroy private healthcare entirely with a single payer system.
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