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Postby Telconi » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Harelia wrote:Well ain't this a "blind leading the deaf" moment?

I beg your pardon? What is that supposed to mean?


It means you're a hypocrite who accuses others of faults you yourself exhibit.
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Postby Harelia » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Harelia wrote:Well ain't this a "blind leading the deaf" moment?

I beg your pardon? What is that supposed to mean?

It's a spin on blind leading the blind...Cuz you say I'm not listening an-Nevermind. Forget it. Takes too long to explain.

It means that you, in all your contradictions, are chastising someone on the notion that they're jumping to conclusions.
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Postby Harelia » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:53 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I beg your pardon? What is that supposed to mean?


It means you're a hypocrite who accuses others of faults you yourself exhibit.


Thanks. <3
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Postby Deamonopolis » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:54 pm

As someone who posts half in jest and half seriously (I'm perfectly honest about my doubts) that said, even I have a very difficult time to distinguish between what's honest in here and what's random noise... Guess I'll read the outcome in the paper and then I'll draw my own conclusions. No harm done!

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Postby Harelia » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:54 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
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You can assume, yes. But can you be for certain?

Cuz I'm not. Actually if I'm being entirely honest I wouldn't be surprised even if it was some third party trying to stoke the fire in order to tear down both sides and bring the background parties like the Green Party. Or even the Pirate party.


Certainty comes from the investigation.

Third party? Hmmm? Possibly. It would make more sense to send them to say donnie, Ivanka, old McC, etc. That would have them fuel for the ebul socialprogcommie lib talk especially with the elections so close......

Hrm...I actually never saw it from that angle before. Still, I'll only be certain of the who and what when they actually catch the person responsible.

If they catch the person, that is
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Postby Seangoli » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:55 pm

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Seangoli wrote: The ones sent to Obama and Clinton were intercepted by the Secret Service and disarmed before they could go off. They have been confirmed as being active bombs as well, even though theu had yet to detonate.

and the one at CNN NY was live.


It seems that the pipe bombs were set to eother trigger on a timer or set to go off when opened. Just necaise they disn't go off doesn't mean they weren't live, it means that the packages weren't opened. Given that these sorts of attacks are not particularly a new concept, it seems pretty likely that people handling items are looking for this stuff, particularly given that the CNN one was founs after the Clinton/Obama one and they were on notice.


Its also worth noting that the Cuomo one ended up being something else entirely, and not a bomb. It seems Cuomo's office got a weird package with some electronics storing data files, and took the route of "better safe than sorry". If it was a false flag, it seems Cuomo amd others on high alert taking extra precautions didn't get the message.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:55 pm

Deamonopolis wrote:As someone who posts half in jest and half seriously (I'm perfectly honest about my doubts) that said, even I have a very difficult time to distinguish between what's honest in here and what's random noise... Guess I'll read the outcome in the paper and then I'll draw my own conclusions. No harm done!

Yes how about letting people whose job it is to investigate this stuff find out whose behind it instead of being partisan and jumping to conclusions and making up false accusations.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:55 pm

Harelia wrote:
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Terror tatics don't have to be explosions. The simple thought of it can happen will do the job. Remember the old Net myth of if you blink your lights at a car how blinked them at you; you could be shot as its a gang initiation? Threats of violence spreed.

Garner sympathy? Hardly. This involved the police, the secret service and the FBI. Sending explosives to people is a bozo nono.

This kind of "logic" is what was used with the pizza gate nonsense. There are still morons out there who think that was true.....


Wasn't there also one where flashing your hazards was some rando gang sign or code or whatever used to communicate?


Hmm? Don't recall that one. If it was going on; I may have forgotten it. People are kooky over such things. I am on a neighborhood FB group and there are many nutters with police scanners and "did you hear that" talk.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:57 pm

Harelia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Certainty comes from the investigation.

Third party? Hmmm? Possibly. It would make more sense to send them to say donnie, Ivanka, old McC, etc. That would have them fuel for the ebul socialprogcommie lib talk especially with the elections so close......

Hrm...I actually never saw it from that angle before. Still, I'll only be certain of the who and what when they actually catch the person responsible.

If they catch the person, that is


Oh we can agree on that one. It doesn't matter if the bomber is a lib or con, he needs to be locked up.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Deamonopolis wrote:As someone who posts half in jest and half seriously (I'm perfectly honest about my doubts) that said, even I have a very difficult time to distinguish between what's honest in here and what's random noise... Guess I'll read the outcome in the paper and then I'll draw my own conclusions. No harm done!

Yes how about letting people whose job it is to investigate this stuff find out whose behind it instead of being partisan and jumping to conclusions and making up false accusations.


Indeed, how about that?
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Postby Telconi » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:58 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Harelia wrote:Hrm...I actually never saw it from that angle before. Still, I'll only be certain of the who and what when they actually catch the person responsible.

If they catch the person, that is


Oh we can agree on that one. It doesn't matter if the bomber is a lib or con, he needs to be locked up.


There very well could be no political angle to this. I mean, we're inclined to jump to the conclusion given the targets, but it might be more specific.
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Postby Sane Outcasts » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:58 pm

Seangoli wrote:
San Lumen wrote:and the one at CNN NY was live.


It seems that the pipe bombs were set to eother trigger on a timer or set to go off when opened. Just necaise they disn't go off doesn't mean they weren't live, it means that the packages weren't opened. Given that these sorts of attacks are not particularly a new concept, it seems pretty likely that people handling items are looking for this stuff, particularly given that the CNN one was founs after the Clinton/Obama one and they were on notice.


Its also worth noting that the Cuomo one ended up being something else entirely, and not a bomb. It seems Cuomo's office got a weird package with some electronics storing data files, and took the route of "better safe than sorry". If it was a false flag, it seems Cuomo amd others on high alert taking extra precautions didn't get the message.

There is still a report of a suspicious package a the Office of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, though that may be another false alarm. Her name and address were used as the return address on the device CNN showed and I'm sure it's got people there nervous.

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Postby Harelia » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:59 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Harelia wrote:
Wasn't there also one where flashing your hazards was some rando gang sign or code or whatever used to communicate?


Hmm? Don't recall that one. If it was going on; I may have forgotten it. People are kooky over such things. I am on a neighborhood FB group and there are many nutters with police scanners and "did you hear that" talk.


I ask only because I think I recall something about it like way back in the 90's when there were still a few commonplace heavy raids and the "War on drugs" was still making people kinda shaky.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:59 pm

Seangoli wrote:
San Lumen wrote:and the one at CNN NY was live.


It seems that the pipe bombs were set to eother trigger on a timer or set to go off when opened. Just necaise they disn't go off doesn't mean they weren't live, it means that the packages weren't opened. Given that these sorts of attacks are not particularly a new concept, it seems pretty likely that people handling items are looking for this stuff, particularly given that the CNN one was founs after the Clinton/Obama one and they were on notice.


Its also worth noting that the Cuomo one ended up being something else entirely, and not a bomb. It seems Cuomo's office got a weird package with some electronics storing data files, and took the route of "better safe than sorry". If it was a false flag, it seems Cuomo amd others on high alert taking extra precautions didn't get the message.


No no no, clearly Cuomo was also in on it but they orchestrated for this false positive to happen to lead suspicion away from them!
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Bombs are not very nice.
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New Ciencia wrote:Bombs are not very nice.

Finally, someone I can agree with!
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Postby Harelia » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:01 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh we can agree on that one. It doesn't matter if the bomber is a lib or con, he needs to be locked up.


There very well could be no political angle to this. I mean, we're inclined to jump to the conclusion given the targets, but it might be more specific.


Wouldn't it be an absolute kick in the pants if it was just the victims coordinating fake bomb threats to themselves? How floored would we be? But now I think I'm diving too deep into "Conspiracy theory" territory. I should probably stop before I develop a taste for tin foil hats.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:01 pm

This doesn't surprise me as much as it should. It's really sad that some people have so much hate, and I am not impressed with the right wing politicians trying to compare this with what they get from disgruntled left-wingers. This is still not normal, even in the polarized political climate that we've had the last couple years. Honestly, it is not normal coming from either side of the aisle. The decent thing to do would just be to condemn it, find and prosecute the sender, and skip the half-assed tu quoques.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:01 pm

New Ciencia wrote:Bombs are not very nice.


Depends on the bombs, railroad torpedoes and well charges are gud bois.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:03 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh we can agree on that one. It doesn't matter if the bomber is a lib or con, he needs to be locked up.


There very well could be no political angle to this. I mean, we're inclined to jump to the conclusion given the targets, but it might be more specific.


Oh I agree. There is that chance. The one common theme I think is they have all been taking shots at donnie......hmmm.....now I am not sure about Soros and Schultz.

We can also be in a new era of election tactics?

I am thinking a nutter who took donnies "beat them up" talk too seriously. Just like that guy who was going to solve pizza gate with his AR15.
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Postby Harelia » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:03 pm

New Ciencia wrote:Bombs are not very nice.


I dunno. They were pretty nice when me and several of my friends stuck a bunch of little mini fireworks into a tickle me elmo and proceeded to crucify him over a bonfire.

it wasn't nice for elmo. But it was a cool fourth of July thing to do with a bunch of people out in the middle of an empty field.
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USS Monitor wrote:This doesn't surprise me as much as it should. It's really sad that some people have so much hate, and I am not impressed with the right wing politicians trying to compare this with what they get from disgruntled left-wingers. This is still not normal, even in the polarized political climate that we've had the last couple years. Honestly, it is not normal coming from either side of the aisle. The decent thing to do would just be to condemn it, find and prosecute the sender, and skip the half-assed tu quoques.


>Letting human decency get in the way of your political agenda.

This is 2018, not 1862.
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The wonders of a good conspiracy theory. If there is something off, that is proof of a conspiracy. If there are things going as expected, then that too is proof of a conspiracy.

In the academic world we call this a non-falsifiable hypothesis, but that is elitist drivel of course. The more you think about something the less you know.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:06 pm

Harelia wrote:
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Hmm? Don't recall that one. If it was going on; I may have forgotten it. People are kooky over such things. I am on a neighborhood FB group and there are many nutters with police scanners and "did you hear that" talk.


I ask only because I think I recall something about it like way back in the 90's when there were still a few commonplace heavy raids and the "War on drugs" was still making people kinda shaky.


These particular people?.....nahhh....just a bunch of busybodies with a great deal of free time on their hands.
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Postby Harelia » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:07 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
There very well could be no political angle to this. I mean, we're inclined to jump to the conclusion given the targets, but it might be more specific.


Oh I agree. There is that chance. The one common theme I think is they have all been taking shots at donnie......hmmm.....now I am not sure about Soros and Schultz.

We can also be in a new era of election tactics?

I am thinking a nutter who took donnies "beat them up" talk too seriously. Just like that guy who was going to solve pizza gate with his AR15.


I thought the new era was going to be people just completely refusing to vote.
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