Mail Bombs Sent to Clintons and Obama (Man Arrested)

[Cannot think of a name]

I asked this last time...when have these things ever actually been a false flag? How often is that actually the case? Show your work.

You cannot know unless the truth comes out, but until the truth comes out, you cannot know.

Thanks, Rumsfield. Now that we have your colloquialism about the nature of knowledge...

Which is why it continues to reside in 'conspiracy theory' territory, and hence it easily falls prey to mockery,

Okay...maybe you didn't understand the question? When has any of these kinds of things actually turned out to be a false flag? Every time someone straps one on and does something like this someone hobbles into the thread and goes, "It's probably a false flag..."

When has that ever been true? Site examples.

while there's a good chance it may be a false flag operation,

A good chance? Then clearly this is a common tactic with clear signs. Again, show your work. Let's see that pattern.

but we cannot know that because the very nature of false flag operations is not to become known as such.

And when, exactly, has that ever happened? Be specific.

Hope this helps.

No. That was terrible.

[Deamonopolis]

Cludeo or Clue as its known in America is a board game not real life. You dont jump to conclusions or unfounded accusations if your a detective or investigator. There is zero evidence this a false flag. Putting the name of someone else on the bomb is an attempt to prevent it from being traced.

And even if Soros or Clinton dont get their own mail what's to say the butler wouldn't bring it inside not knowing its a bomb. Robert Smith Vance a federal judge in Alabama was assassinated in 1989 via a mail bomb sent to his home.

I'm running the risk of sounding condescending, but a federal judge isn't one of the most hated men in America, and certainly not a failed presidential candidate, about whom people still shout LOCK HER UP. If the would-be letterbomber had half a brain (and I suspect he/she did), I mean... If you're smart enough to assemble a pipe bomb then you can understand the Secret Service or private eyes don't allow for such cheesy slip-ups. I mean yes things can fall through the cracks but letterbombs are one of the easiest things to forestall. And how was the bomb supposed to go off? Was it even powerful enough to be considered a proper bomb?

[Vassenor]

A US intelligence official tells CNN it is too early to tell whether there is a connection to terrorism at this point regarding the suspicious packages sent to multiple locations today

...we've got a rando sending bombs through the mail to political figures. In what way could this not be terrorism?

[Kavagrad]

A US intelligence official tells CNN it is too early to tell whether there is a connection to terrorism at this point regarding the suspicious packages sent to multiple locations today

...we've got a rando sending bombs through the mail to political figures. In what way could this not be terrorism?

Friendship bombs, obviously

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

The natural evolution of heightened partisanship.

And thats bad. Really bad. The US should stop this.

The left begins by enabling Islamic terrorism, the right responds with cars, something here something there, end result civil war.

"Guys don't be assholes to Muslims just beacuse of the idiot terrorists" is now "lol go blow something up.".

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[Cannot think of a name]

A US intelligence official tells CNN it is too early to tell whether there is a connection to terrorism at this point regarding the suspicious packages sent to multiple locations today

...we've got a rando sending bombs through the mail to political figures. In what way could this not be terrorism?

Sounds like they're making a distinction between domestic "terrorism" (scare quotes implied by them) and Islamic Terrorism...

[Major-Tom]

Clearly the work of the "angry left wing mob" Trump and his cabal of mouth-foaming allies in Congress always mention. Seriously, how long until the GOP has a modicum of integrity and says "hey maybe our President, his favored news outlets and his favored pundits have been so polarizing and bashful that people are being driven to violence?"

Fucking Christ.

[Seangoli]

Cludeo or Clue as its known in America is a board game not real life. You dont jump to conclusions or unfounded accusations if your a detective or investigator. There is zero evidence this a false flag. Putting the name of someone else on the bomb is an attempt to prevent it from being traced.

And even if Soros or Clinton dont get their own mail what's to say the butler wouldn't bring it inside not knowing its a bomb. Robert Smith Vance a federal judge in Alabama was assassinated in 1989 via a mail bomb sent to his home.

I'm running the risk of sounding condescending, but a federal judge isn't one of the most hated men in America, and certainly not a failed presidential candidate, about whom people still shout LOCK HER UP. If the would-be letterbomber had half a brain (and I suspect he/she did), I mean... If you're smart enough to assemble a pipe bomb then you can understand the Secret Service or private eyes don't allow for such cheesy slip-ups. I mean yes things can fall through the cracks but letterbombs are one of the easiest things to forestall. And how was the bomb supposed to go off? Was it even powerful enough to be considered a proper bomb?

1. Pipe bombs are notoriously easy to make, and instructions to do so are readily available. They are also unreliable. Hence their danger. Any nitwit with a little too much time, a little too mich money, and too little common sense can build one.


2. Very few people are actually criminal masterminds, and most criminals get caught because of their own damn stupidity after being portrayed as some sort of mastermind in the press. As I said, any dumbass can build these bombs, and most only have a rudimentary understanfing of the SS personnel of ex presidents and the like.

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...we've got a rando sending bombs through the mail to political figures. In what way could this not be terrorism?

Sounds like they're making a distinction between domestic "terrorism" (scare quotes implied by them) and Islamic Terrorism...

Maybe we should use the words "patriots" or "very fine person." I can almost imagine that Trump started drafting a statement calling the bomber a very fine American, but then his staffers said "Hey, why don't you take a break from that and put on Fox and Friends, and I'll get you some McDonalds!" and then his staffers wrote an acceptable statement.

[Valrifell]

Sounds like they're making a distinction between domestic "terrorism" (scare quotes implied by them) and Islamic Terrorism...

Maybe we should use the words "patriots" or "very fine person." I can almost imagine that Trump started drafting a statement calling the bomber a very fine American, but then his staffers said "Hey, why don't you take a break from that and put on Fox and Friends, and I'll get you some McDonalds!" and then his staffers wrote an acceptable statement.

"This tragedy was the result of a patriotic young American who got too carried away in the great ideals of this great country."

[Cannot think of a name]

Maybe we should use the words "patriots" or "very fine person." I can almost imagine that Trump started drafting a statement calling the bomber a very fine American, but then his staffers said "Hey, why don't you take a break from that and put on Fox and Friends, and I'll get you some McDonalds!" and then his staffers wrote an acceptable statement.

"This tragedy was the result of a patriotic young American who got too carried away in the great ideals of this great country."

If you had used the trump tweet generator, I might have believed it.

[Deamonopolis]

Thank you for your kind reply. I'll do my best to answer your questions and comments.

Thanks, Rumsfield. Now that we have your colloquialism about the nature of knowledge...

This isn't about epistemology, but I appreciate you stretching that term to include my humble yet abstract description of a false flag event.

Okay...maybe you didn't understand the question? When has any of these kinds of things actually turned out to be a false flag? Every time someone straps one on and does something like this someone hobbles into the thread and goes, "It's probably a false flag..."
When has that ever been true? Site examples.

See my next post to disprove your wild assumption that I didn't understand your post.

And when, exactly, has that ever happened? Be specific.

The Moscow Theatre bombings were suspected to be a false flag; I recall John McCain himself even said something to that effect. But also the Gulf of Tonkin incident - suspicious to say the least. But also the run-up to the Spanish American war of 1898. And no matter what you might find of the whole JFK assassination, there are several aspects (it would go off-topic to mention them here) that cannot be considered explainable without resorting to less conventional ideas. In the recently released FBI documents, something along theses lines was mentioned. Convenience doesn't exist. Circumstances are arranged in such a way as to act like a precursor to events that prove themselves to be convenient. In that regard, the collapse of Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns was exceptionally convenient for Goldman Sachs. And incidentally, did you know LB and BS didn't participate in the bailout of LTCM in 1998? Without their capital, other banks had to bear quite bit of additional loss, and the fact there was bad blood between Lehman and Goldman wasn't exactly a Wall Street secret.

No. That was terrible.

I'll pretend I didn't see this. I am helping you understand the reasons behind my... you know, reasons for thinking like this. Terrible answers are thoughtless answers, answers that have zero relevance to the matter at hand. I believe my reply covers the matter perfectly well.

[San Lumen]

Cludeo or Clue as its known in America is a board game not real life. You dont jump to conclusions or unfounded accusations if your a detective or investigator. There is zero evidence this a false flag. Putting the name of someone else on the bomb is an attempt to prevent it from being traced.

And even if Soros or Clinton dont get their own mail what's to say the butler wouldn't bring it inside not knowing its a bomb. Robert Smith Vance a federal judge in Alabama was assassinated in 1989 via a mail bomb sent to his home.

I'm running the risk of sounding condescending, but a federal judge isn't one of the most hated men in America, and certainly not a failed presidential candidate, about whom people still shout LOCK HER UP. If the would-be letterbomber had half a brain (and I suspect he/she did), I mean... If you're smart enough to assemble a pipe bomb then you can understand the Secret Service or private eyes don't allow for such cheesy slip-ups. I mean yes things can fall through the cracks but letterbombs are one of the easiest things to forestall. And how was the bomb supposed to go off? Was it even powerful enough to be considered a proper bomb?

It is condescending and very nasty.

Maybe the person doesnt know it would be intercepted. Obama had ricin sent to White House. He was never in danger as all mail sent to the WH is heavily screened.

Do yourself a favor and dont become a detective or investigator.

As i already explained to you mail bombs are typically designed to go off when opened.

[Cannot think of a name]

Thank you for your kind reply. I'll do my best to answer your questions and comments.

Thanks, Rumsfield. Now that we have your colloquialism about the nature of knowledge...

This isn't about epistemology, but I appreciate you stretching that term to include my humble yet abstract description of a false flag event.

Okay...maybe you didn't understand the question? When has any of these kinds of things actually turned out to be a false flag? Every time someone straps one on and does something like this someone hobbles into the thread and goes, "It's probably a false flag..."
When has that ever been true? Site examples.

See my next post to disprove your wild assumption that I didn't understand your post.

And when, exactly, has that ever happened? Be specific.

The Moscow Theatre bombings were suspected to be a false flag; I recall John McCain himself even said something to that effect. But also the Gulf of Tonkin incident - suspicious to say the least. But also the run-up to the Spanish American war of 1898. And no matter what you might find of the whole JFK assassination, there are several aspects (it would go off-topic to mention them here) that cannot be considered explainable without resorting to less conventional ideas. In the recently released FBI documents, something along theses lines was mentioned. Convenience doesn't exist. Circumstances are arranged in such a way as to act like a precursor to events that prove themselves to be convenient. In that regard, the collapse of Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns was exceptionally convenient for Goldman Sachs. And incidentally, did you know LB and BS didn't participate in the bailout of LTCM in 1998? Without their capital, other banks had to bear quite bit of additional loss, and the fact there was bad blood between Lehman and Goldman wasn't exactly a Wall Street secret.

No. That was terrible.

I'll pretend I didn't see this. I am helping you understand the reasons behind my... you know, reasons for thinking like this. Terrible answers are thoughtless answers, answers that have zero relevance to the matter at hand. I believe my reply covers the matter perfectly well.

So...other conspiracy theories.


Alright. Concerns dismissed. Tin foil distributed, moving on.

[Deamonopolis]

If you're not willing to talk stuff thats the very fibre of history, that's your choice and I respect it. Our discussion ends here then.

I haven't said this yet but I will now: I detest violence and whomever's behind this, deserves to hit the slammer for a very long time.

[Valrifell]

"This tragedy was the result of a patriotic young American who got too carried away in the great ideals of this great country."

If you had used the trump tweet generator, I might have believed it.

Pretend I opened with this.

[Telconi]

What's weird is the gap in time between the Soros bomb and these new findings. Did they get stuck in the postage or are they separate (but possibly closely related) incidents?

or is this just proof that the USPS needs to be reworked?

Wasn't Soros' bomb hand placed? Or at least they're saying that's the working theory now.

[San Lumen]

If you're not willing to talk stuff thats the very fibre of history, that's your choice and I respect it. Our discussion ends here then.

I haven't said this yet but I will now: I detest violence and whomever's behind this, deserves to hit the slammer for a very long time.

and you are jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about a a very fluid situation. That is very dangerous territory.

[Valrifell]

What's weird is the gap in time between the Soros bomb and these new findings. Did they get stuck in the postage or are they separate (but possibly closely related) incidents?

or is this just proof that the USPS needs to be reworked?

Wasn't Soros' bomb hand placed? Or at least they're saying that's the working theory now.

Evidently.

[Torrocca]

Clearly the work of the "angry left wing mob" Trump and his cabal of mouth-foaming allies in Congress always mention. Seriously, how long until the GOP has a modicum of integrity and says "hey maybe our President, his favored news outlets and his favored pundits have been so polarizing and bashful that people are being driven to violence?"

"Never," is the answer you seek, my friend.

[Deamonopolis]

If you're not willing to talk stuff thats the very fibre of history, that's your choice and I respect it. Our discussion ends here then.

I haven't said this yet but I will now: I detest violence and whomever's behind this, deserves to hit the slammer for a very long time.

and you are jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about a a very fluid situation. That is very dangerous territory.

I admit I have jumped to conclusions and I have made assumptions. I make people aware of this so we don't confuse fact with fiction. All I offer are several considerations that do not appear on mainstream media. There's no harm in there if the person who mentions those things is clear about it. I have been clear about it and to allay your concerns, I don't want to be a detective or police officer

[San Lumen]

and you are jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about a a very fluid situation. That is very dangerous territory.

I admit I have jumped to conclusions and I have made assumptions. I make people aware of this so we don't confuse fact with fiction. All I offer are several considerations that do not appear on mainstream media. There's no harm in there if the person who mentions those things is clear about it. I have been clear about it and to allay your concerns, I don't want to be a detective or police officer

Espousing conspiracy theories and jumping to conclusions is something no on should do.

You would be a terrible police officer or detective. FYI a detective is usually a police officer.

[Balican]

The bomb was hand delivered(definitely not sent through the mail), there is an ISIS flag on it, and a trump sticker. Something's not adding up here.

[Telconi]

Clearly the work of the "angry left wing mob" Trump and his cabal of mouth-foaming allies in Congress always mention. Seriously, how long until the GOP has a modicum of integrity and says "hey maybe our President, his favored news outlets and his favored pundits have been so polarizing and bashful that people are being driven to violence?"

"Never," is the answer you seek, my friend.

Why admit your own role in it when you can just emphasize your opponent's?

[San Lumen]

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The bomb was hand delivered(definitely not sent through the mail), there is an ISIS flag on it, and a trump sticker. Something's not adding up here.

Thats a a what a investigation will find out. We dont know who is behind it.