Alt-Right leader accused of spousal abuse

[Torrocca]

Literally only six posts in and people already jumping to conclusions.

Accusation is not conviction, people. Even scum are innocent until proven guilty.

Spencer doesn't need to be convicted for me to think he's guilty. It's this whole thing where I'm not a court, so people don't get punished based on what I think, so I think whatever I want.

But Ifreann, don't'cha know? That makes you a member of the lynch mob of the public's opinion!

[Fartsniffage]

My own post suggested that I'm not even remotely surprised that he's been accused of this by his former wife and that this might actually be true.

I'd be fucking surprised if he was actually innocent.

Why is it hard to believe a man who espouses racial supremacy can't also be a loving husband? The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Just because someone is a shithead in one department doesn't make them a shithead in every department.

It's a pretty good indicator though.

[Torrocca]

My own post suggested that I'm not even remotely surprised that he's been accused of this by his former wife and that this might actually be true.

I'd be fucking surprised if he was actually innocent.

Why is it hard to believe a man who espouses racial supremacy can't also be a loving husband? The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Just because someone is a shithead in one department doesn't make them a shithead in every department.

Gee whiz, I dunno? Maybe it's the whole racial supremacy? The desire to genocide others? That kinda stuff?

[Ifreann]

Spencer doesn't need to be convicted for me to think he's guilty. It's this whole thing where I'm not a court, so people don't get punished based on what I think, so I think whatever I want.

But Ifreann, don't'cha know? That makes you a member of the lynch mob of the public's opinion!

It does? Damn. And here I am without any rope. First day in a lynch mob isn't going so well.

[Conserative Morality]

It should be a moral one too. The alternative is mob justice and vigilantism, and God knows we don't need any more of either of those train wrecks in this country.

Hitler was innocent.

Why is it hard to believe a man who espouses racial supremacy can't also be a loving husband? The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Just because someone is a shithead in one department doesn't make them a shithead in every department.

It doesn't automatically mean they're a shithead in every department. However, filling up a department with shit suggests two things:

1. You may soon have a leaking problem

2. You don't have a problem with filling a department with shit

Both of those are significant markers for having shit in your other departments.

[Len Hyet]

Should anyone really be surprised? Really?

I for one am shocked, shocked I tell you.

Well not that shocked.

[Telconi]

My own post suggested that I'm not even remotely surprised that he's been accused of this by his former wife and that this might actually be true.

I'd be fucking surprised if he was actually innocent.

Why is it hard to believe a man who espouses racial supremacy can't also be a loving husband? The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Just because someone is a shithead in one department doesn't make them a shithead in every department.

His white supremacist beliefs would seem to indicate a severe lack in moral fortitude, and one severely lacking in moral fortitude is likely exhibits immoral behavior in other areas of their life as well. Does this mean for certain he's any particular bad thing? no. But it does indicate an overall bend towards immorality.

[The South Falls]

Should anyone really be surprised? Really?

I for one am shocked, shocked I tell you.

Well not that shocked.

I touched a taser.

I'm shocked.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Your own post suggests otherwise.



Unless he's an avid misogynist, yes. He might be - I'm not familiar with the man other than that he's a White 'Nationalist' - so correct me if I'm wrong.

Regardless, being a Nazi isn't a gateway drug to comic book villainy where evil seeps into every inch of their life.

He has on several occasions spoken against women and a desire to keep them in housekeeping roles

Well alright then. Now it wouldn't surprise me.

Literally only six posts in and people already jumping to conclusions.

Accusation is not conviction, people. Even scum are innocent until proven guilty.

Spencer doesn't need to be convicted for me to think he's guilty. It's this whole thing where I'm not a court, so people don't get punished based on what I think, so I think whatever I want.

Yeah, that's the problem. You can just up and decide he's guilty regardless of whether he is or not, and then go around telling people he is. Someone will just up and believe it without fact-checking first and then go off to tell other people the same, and so on, and so on, and so on. It's called 'spreading misinformation' and it's pretty fucking dangerous because all it takes is for one would-be "hero" to try and take "justice" into his own hands.

It may sound like a slippery slope but it happens all the fucking time.

Spencer doesn't need to be convicted for me to think he's guilty. It's this whole thing where I'm not a court, so people don't get punished based on what I think, so I think whatever I want.

But Ifreann, don't'cha know? That makes you a member of the lynch mob of the public's opinion!

The public can have whatever opinion they want, doesn't mean they should be allowed to go flaunting it around like it's a fact when all the evidence isn't in.

[Torrocca]

It should be a moral one too. The alternative is mob justice and vigilantism, and God knows we don't need any more of either of those train wrecks in this country.

Hitler was innocent.

Fun fact: since Hitler technically was never tried in a court of law after World War Two ended, this is a truth.

Should anyone really be surprised? Really?

I for one am shocked, shocked I tell you.

Well not that shocked.

It's that electrifying kinda shock that makes you say, "huh," and go back with your day-to-day life.

But Ifreann, don't'cha know? That makes you a member of the lynch mob of the public's opinion!

It does? Damn. And here I am without any rope. First day in a lynch mob isn't going so well.

Maybe you can get your wife to work all day to get together thirty bags for us ungrateful sum'bitches in the upcoming raid?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Why is it hard to believe a man who espouses racial supremacy can't also be a loving husband? The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Just because someone is a shithead in one department doesn't make them a shithead in every department.

It's a pretty good indicator though.

People can surprise you in a lot of wonderful and horrible ways.

Why is it hard to believe a man who espouses racial supremacy can't also be a loving husband? The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Just because someone is a shithead in one department doesn't make them a shithead in every department.

Gee whiz, I dunno? Maybe it's the whole racial supremacy? The desire to genocide others? That kinda stuff?

And that has to do with treating your wife with respect how? Oh, that's right, it doesn't.

It should be a moral one too. The alternative is mob justice and vigilantism, and God knows we don't need any more of either of those train wrecks in this country.

Hitler was innocent.

That's some poor quality bait there, buddy. Best try a different pond.

It doesn't automatically mean they're a shithead in every department. However, filling up a department with shit suggests two things:

1. You may soon have a leaking problem

2. You don't have a problem with filling a department with shit

Both of those are significant markers for having shit in your other departments.

You know what, that was pretty funny. I'm going to concede defeat just for that. Kudos.

Why is it hard to believe a man who espouses racial supremacy can't also be a loving husband? The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Just because someone is a shithead in one department doesn't make them a shithead in every department.

His white supremacist beliefs would seem to indicate a severe lack in moral fortitude, and one severely lacking in moral fortitude is likely exhibits immoral behavior in other areas of their life as well. Does this mean for certain he's any particular bad thing? no. But it does indicate an overall bend towards immorality.

Like I said, people can surprise you in a lot of wonderful and horrible ways.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Hitler was innocent.

Fun fact: since Hitler technically was never tried in a court of law after World War Two ended, this is a truth.

False. A case in which there is undeniable evidence of the accused's involvement and role does not have to go to court, and we have an overwhelming amount of evidence that Hitler was in fact guilty of genocide, warmongering, and bunch of other terrible things beyond a reasonable doubt.

Your fun fact is neither.

[Torrocca]

Fun fact: since Hitler technically was never tried in a court of law after World War Two ended, this is a truth.

False. A case in which there is undeniable evidence of the accused's involvement and role does not have to go to court, and we have an overwhelming amount of evidence that Hitler was in fact guilty of genocide, warmongering, and bunch of other terrible things beyond a reasonable doubt.

Your fun fact is neither.

b-but-

Nah, I'm just shooting the shit. It's obvious he was a guilty motherfucker.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

False. A case in which there is undeniable evidence of the accused's involvement and role does not have to go to court, and we have an overwhelming amount of evidence that Hitler was in fact guilty of genocide, warmongering, and bunch of other terrible things beyond a reasonable doubt.

Your fun fact is neither.

b-but-

Nah, I'm just shooting the shit. It's obvious he was a guilty motherfucker.

Of course he was. That's why I called it bait - because that is what it was. I, too, was shooting the shit.

[Conserative Morality]

False. A case in which there is undeniable evidence of the accused's involvement and role does not have to go to court, and we have an overwhelming amount of evidence that Hitler was in fact guilty of genocide, warmongering, and bunch of other terrible things beyond a reasonable doubt.

Your fun fact is neither.

There's no solid proof that Hitler ordered the Holocaust. No orders, nor acknowledgements, nor direct links.

Yet in spite of this, most people can look at it and say, "Yeah, Hitler did that. It wasn't some mistake on the part of the lower ranks. Look at what he said unrelated to the direct functioning of the Holocaust. Look at what he did unrelated to the direct functioning of the Holocaust. Look at his positions, his opinions, his motives."

[Fartsniffage]

False. A case in which there is undeniable evidence of the accused's involvement and role does not have to go to court, and we have an overwhelming amount of evidence that Hitler was in fact guilty of genocide, warmongering, and bunch of other terrible things beyond a reasonable doubt.

Your fun fact is neither.

There's no solid proof that Hitler ordered the Holocaust. No orders, nor acknowledgements, nor direct links.

Yet in spite of this, most people can look at it and say, "Yeah, Hitler did that. It wasn't some mistake on the part of the lower ranks. Look at what he said unrelated to the direct functioning of the Holocaust. Look at what he did unrelated to the direct functioning of the Holocaust. Look at his positions, his opinions, his motives."

And here we see the segue into Chatlotsville.

[Reikoku]

Actually sort of surprised. Richard Spencer was never the cream of the moral crop (to put it mildly) but I never suspected that he was an abusive husband. Hope his ex-wife manages to get the emotional support and therapy she needs.

[Kowani]

And no one was surprised.

I’m actually more surprised that a Neo-Nazi got married. Or, more accurately, to anyone who wasn’t one of them. It’s not like it’s a double life of his that he’s hiding, it’s pretty open. Makes you wonder about the opinions of his wife.

And if she’s not a closet Neo-Nazi, than what the heck lady? You always hear “Don’t let political opinions influence a relationship!”, but you gotta draw a fuckin’ line.

[Conserative Morality]

Actually sort of surprised. Richard Spencer was never the cream of the moral crop (to put it mildly) but I never suspected that he was an abusive husband. Hope his ex-wife manages to get the emotional support and therapy she needs.

Always expect the worst of people you think of as scumbags, and you will never be disappointed.

[Ifreann]

Spencer doesn't need to be convicted for me to think he's guilty. It's this whole thing where I'm not a court, so people don't get punished based on what I think, so I think whatever I want.

Yeah, that's the problem. You can just up and decide he's guilty regardless of whether he is or not, and then go around telling people he is. Someone will just up and believe it without fact-checking first and then go off to tell other people the same, and so on, and so on, and so on. It's called 'spreading misinformation' and it's pretty fucking dangerous because all it takes is for one would-be "hero" to try and take "justice" into his own hands.

Spencer's been punched in the face before, I'm sure he can take another.

It may sound like a slippery slope but it happens all the fucking time.

Maybe in comics.

[Internationalist Bastard]

And no one was surprised.

I’m actually more surprised that a Neo-Nazi got married. Or, more accurately, to anyone who wasn’t one of them. It’s not like it’s a double life of his that he’s hiding, it’s pretty open. Makes you wonder about the opinions of his wife.

And if she’s not a closet Neo-Nazi, than what the heck lady? You always hear “Don’t let political opinions influence a relationship!”, but you gotta draw a fuckin’ line.

His wife published a lot of his stuff
My favorite is when she declared herself “troll queen of the Kremlin”

[Reikoku]

Actually sort of surprised. Richard Spencer was never the cream of the moral crop (to put it mildly) but I never suspected that he was an abusive husband. Hope his ex-wife manages to get the emotional support and therapy she needs.

Always expect the worst of people you think of as scumbags, and you will never be disappointed.

I mean, I would've expected the worst of Kouprianova as well then, considering I've heard about her being associated with Aleksandr Dugin.

[Napkiraly]

And no one was surprised.

I’m actually more surprised that a Neo-Nazi got married. Or, more accurately, to anyone who wasn’t one of them. It’s not like it’s a double life of his that he’s hiding, it’s pretty open. Makes you wonder about the opinions of his wife.

And if she’s not a closet Neo-Nazi, than what the heck lady? You always hear “Don’t let political opinions influence a relationship!”, but you gotta draw a fuckin’ line.

IIRC she's a Dugin fan and translates Dugin's writing's into English.

[Torrocca]

Always expect the worst of people you think of as scumbags, and you will never be disappointed.

I mean, I would've expected the worst of Kouprianova as well then, considering I've heard about her being associated with Aleksandr Dugin.

Not that hard to expect the worst of both.

[Dark Socialism]

Not surprised since he is an Amoralist