Thousands of Hondurans heading toward the US

[Vassenor]

So at what point has California allowed non-citizens to vote in State or Federal Elections (and no the San Francisco school board thing is not a State or Federal Election)?

California does not require any proof of ID or citizenship at the polling stations. The ballot workers may ASK if they suspect. But only if they suspect.

Because eligibility is checked during registration, not at the polling station.

[Neutraligon]

And you think they did not advertise online...why?

Cutting corners, perhaps.

AH so pure speculation.

[The South Falls]

So at what point has California allowed non-citizens to vote in State or Federal Elections (and no the San Francisco school board thing is not a State or Federal Election)?

California does not require any proof of ID or citizenship at the polling stations. The ballot workers may ASK if they suspect. But only if they suspect.

However, they are required to show ID for their first time.

Which means that's wrong.

Right Here.

[Renolia]

So your argument boils down to "well it can't be anything else! Ignore the fact that all these other countries that accept vastly larger amount of immigrants than Germany don't have an improving debt!"

Germany has not taken in very different numbers of immigrants per capita at all.

Trying to get me into your own corner again?

1: So, your argument boils down to: "Immigrants are so expensive" and yet empirical data shows you the opposite and now you go strawmanning.

2: Hahaha^^ Okay, Germany has accepted like more then 2 million refugees since 2015, name me one country in europe that has only accepted a FIFTH of that and i´ll go eat a broomstick for you. If you paid attention to the news you would also know that especially the countries you just cited(Greece, Spain and Frace) are in fact under heavy critique by Germany and the UN for not even accepting the EU set bare minimum of immigrants rofl.

You are in fact citing the countries in Europe that took in the fewest, congratulations.

You keep assuming what my opinion is, despite me stating explicitly what I actually think. You clearly are not paying attention to what I am actually saying, instead using a strawman - which isn't even a strawman related to my point of view. I literally do not understand what you are even trying to accomplish by pretending I am saying certain things.

[The Biggles Syndicate]

It would be a incredibly dangerous idea to just let them over the border, especially considering there are criminals hiding among the masses.

[Neutraligon]

It would be a incredibly dangerous idea to just let them over the border, especially considering there are criminals hiding among the masses.

That is why they will be checked out as soon as they cross to claim asylum.

[The South Falls]

It would be a incredibly dangerous idea to just let them over the border, especially considering there are criminals hiding among the masses.

That's not what anyone says. Process them properly, but don't just turn all away.

[Petrasylvania]

I think it is perfectly reasonable to say that it's okay for people to come to do jobs that Americans won't do. Like voting Democrat.

Still peddling that bullshit about non-citizen voters without evidence, I see.

From a foreign right-wing fanboy even.

[The South Falls]

Lemme say this a 952930529032nd time.

ALL *CLAP* STATES *CLAP* REQUIRE *CLAP* SOME *CLAP* FORM *CLAP* OF *CLAP* VOTER *CLAP* ID *CLAP* AT *CLAP* SOME *CLAP* POINT

[Azurius]

Trying to get me into your own corner again?

1: So, your argument boils down to: "Immigrants are so expensive" and yet empirical data shows you the opposite and now you go strawmanning.

2: Hahaha^^ Okay, Germany has accepted like more then 2 million refugees since 2015, name me one country in europe that has only accepted a FIFTH of that and i´ll go eat a broomstick for you. If you paid attention to the news you would also know that especially the countries you just cited(Greece, Spain and Frace) are in fact under heavy critique by Germany and the UN for not even accepting the EU set bare minimum of immigrants rofl.

You are in fact citing the countries in Europe that took in the fewest, congratulations.

You keep assuming what my opinion is, despite me stating explicitly what I actually think. You clearly are not paying attention to what I am actually saying, instead using a strawman - which isn't even a strawman related to my point of view. I literally do not understand what you are even trying to accomplish by pretending I am saying certain things.

1: Well, you keep or kept denying factual data and/or bringing up false counterarguments, this isn´t an assumption either but a fact.

2: Now you are trying to again twist around things... wow. No more comments on that, offtopic anyway.

3: Yeah, that´s exactly what i´m asking you? You made these statements, you said "that can´t be!" without citing any valid argument as to why this can´t be. You said France etc. kept taking a lot of immigrants when it was in fact exactly these countries that took in the fewest in the EU and actually even breached/bypassed(technicaly half-legal) EU law by doing so.

Sorry but you said these things, are you now gonna deny that? Really?

[Harelia]

Cutting corners, perhaps.

AH so pure speculation.

I cannot claim to know or understand why they do it. Only that they do it.

I'm not a psychic. If I was I'd shave my head, confine myself to a wheelchair, and start up a school.

[Balnik]

And you from the far right don´t seem to realize that building walls/constant and strong border patrol is EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE. Even in the short term, not to mention the long run loss and piling up of costs.

OOF you just called me a far righter. That is AMAZING! Shall I start calling you a commie?

Let's refrain from the name calling.

[Renolia]

You keep assuming what my opinion is, despite me stating explicitly what I actually think. You clearly are not paying attention to what I am actually saying, instead using a strawman - which isn't even a strawman related to my point of view. I literally do not understand what you are even trying to accomplish by pretending I am saying certain things.

1: Well, you keep or kept denying factual data and/or bringing up false counterarguments, this isn´t an assumption either but a fact.

2: Now you are trying to again twist around things... wow. No more comments on that, offtopic anyway.

3: Yeah, that´s exactly what i´m asking you? You made these statements, you said "that can´t be!" without citing any valid argument as to why this can´t be. You said France etc. kept taking a lot of immigrants when it was in fact exactly these countries that took in the fewest in the EU and actually even breached/bypassed(technicaly half-legal) EU law by doing so.

Sorry but you said these things, are you now gonna deny that? Really?

I am referring to this one statement you keep bringing up in regards to me saying immigrants are too expensive. I have no idea where you are pulling this from, since that does not represent my views on immigration at all.

[Harelia]

California does not require any proof of ID or citizenship at the polling stations. The ballot workers may ASK if they suspect. But only if they suspect.

However, they are required to show ID for their first time.

Which means that's wrong.

Right Here.

(this requirement applies if the individual registered by mail without providing a driver's license number, state identification number, or the last four digits of a Social Security number)

Hrrrmmmmmm.....

[Neutraligon]

However, they are required to show ID for their first time.

Which means that's wrong.

Right Here.

(this requirement applies if the individual registered by mail without providing a driver's license number, state identification number, or the last four digits of a Social Security number)

Hrrrmmmmmm.....

In other words, it applies if they have not already provided evidence they are who they say they are.

[Chernoslavia]

Not enough.

Oh, do you have a source for this claim? Maybe some inside knowledge you would be willing to share. A statement from the people in charge who are not Trump?

How about the fact that millions of them managed to cross successfully and are right here in the US right now?

[The South Falls]

However, they are required to show ID for their first time.

Which means that's wrong.

Right Here.

(this requirement applies if the individual registered by mail without providing a driver's license number, state identification number, or the last four digits of a Social Security number)

Hrrrmmmmmm.....

And most immigrants who are supposedly getting shoed in to vote wouldn't have any of these things.

[Neutraligon]

Oh, do you have a source for this claim? Maybe some inside knowledge you would be willing to share. A statement from the people in charge who are not Trump?

How about the fact that millions of them managed to cross successfully and are right here in the US right now?

Oh so this caravan was millions strong, and even though they only just recently crossed into Mexico they have somehow already made it here to the US and have managed to cross in. Wow, these Hondurans are rather impressive. Given the speed at which they walk we should get them to join the US military.

[Harelia]

(this requirement applies if the individual registered by mail without providing a driver's license number, state identification number, or the last four digits of a Social Security number)

Hrrrmmmmmm.....

In other words, it applies if they have not already provided evidence they are who they say they are.

Then what's to stop them from just casually strutting in despite that and going "Aaaay, I'm here to do the votes thing!"

That's exaggerated, btw...I doubt anyone does that when they walk into a polling place....

[Harelia]

How about the fact that millions of them managed to cross successfully and are right here in the US right now?

Oh so this caravan was millions strong, and even though they only just recently crossed into Mexico they have somehow already made it here to the US and have managed to cross in. Wow, these Hondurans are rather impressive. Given the speed at which they walk we should get them to join the US military.

Okay even I'm suspicious now....

[Neutraligon]

In other words, it applies if they have not already provided evidence they are who they say they are.

Then what's to stop them from just casually strutting in despite that and going "Aaaay, I'm here to do the votes thing!"

That's exaggerated, btw...I doubt anyone does that when they walk into a polling place....

...did you miss the part where you have to provide an ID if you have not already provided one previously when you register?

[The South Falls]

Oh so this caravan was millions strong, and even though they only just recently crossed into Mexico they have somehow already made it here to the US and have managed to cross in. Wow, these Hondurans are rather impressive. Given the speed at which they walk we should get them to join the US military.

Okay even I'm suspicious now....

They are running at over 200mph. They could replace cars.

[Arkeyana]

I say let 'em through. It's not like they're doing anything wrong by trying to get a better job and future.

[The South Falls]

I say let 'em through. It's not like they're doing anything wrong by trying to get a better job and future.

*insert foaming at the mouth over soros or some shit*

[Neutraligon]

Okay even I'm suspicious now....

They are running at over 200mph. They could replace cars.

Just imagine, infantry that is able to cross a country that size while walking at that speed. I wonder what sort of terrain they went through to get here, was it simply along the road, or where they also going through say forests or the like. Where they carrying anything? How much weight where they carrying. I mean damn they would make impressive soldiers.