Thousands of Hondurans heading toward the US

[Fartsniffage]

Nuance is dying....

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So stop being a part of that. Read shit. Understand shit.

TLDR is for partial illiterates.

[Liriena]

Jim Webb

The vast majority of Americans have never even heard of Jim Webb.

[Guede]

Yes, they could all stop in the other countries they walk through, but clearly everyone in the region looks toward the United States because they are obviously the most prepared to handle people who clearly need help escaping extreme crime and poverty, like many others do.

[Northern Davincia]

And recently, THIS HAPPENED: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trans-wom ... gist-finds

ABOLISH ICE

The waitress always puts too much in my drinks.

[Telconi]

Jim Webb

The vast majority of Americans have never even heard of Jim Webb.

Unfortunately, you're probably right.

[Fartsniffage]

Probably because for most people it really fucking sucks. Not only does it fuck with their breathing, their skin feels like it's on fire if they're sweating even a little bit.

TFW Gas in December

TFW freezing cold

TFW still sweating buckets because gas, inviting all the CS to fuck me right up.

Got mine in June on a nice sunny day after a long run in NBC gear....

[Northern Davincia]

The vast majority of Americans have never even heard of Jim Webb.

Unfortunately, you're probably right.

I love Jim Webb utterly as a politician.

[Rio Cana]

Once again why is this happening. Many are upset because of what is happening at the US-Mexican border but what exactly caused it. Finding the root cause of the problem should solve close to everything.

Some might not like it but it does seem this could be the cause of the problem - https://nacla.org/news/honduras-becomes ... al-america

So what is the solution.

[Telconi]

TFW Gas in December

TFW freezing cold

TFW still sweating buckets because gas, inviting all the CS to fuck me right up.

Got mine in June on a nice sunny day after a long run in NBC gear....

Yeah, well we didn't do NBC gear training. Our NBC was a mask and a precautionary nope away from the clouds of pain.

[Fartsniffage]

Got mine in June on a nice sunny day after a long run in NBC gear....

Yeah, well we didn't do NBC gear training. Our NBC was a mask and a precautionary nope away from the clouds of pain.

Just imagine running a couple of miles on a warm day in quilted trousers and top, gas mask on, feet and hands covered in rubber. Then taking it all off other than the mask and getting in the chamber.

[Balnik]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So stop being a part of that. Read shit. Understand shit.

TLDR is for partial illiterates.

Still tho. Tldr

[Telconi]

Yeah, well we didn't do NBC gear training. Our NBC was a mask and a precautionary nope away from the clouds of pain.

Just imagine running a couple of miles on a warm day in quilted trousers and top, gas mask on, feet and hands covered in rubber. Then taking it all off other than the mask and getting in the chamber.

Waut, you got to keep your mask on?

[Novus America]

Your lack of understanding of international law is not my fault.
Law enforcement and military are different.

I'm aware of how the law applies to this. My argument is not "this is illegal". My argument is "this is wrong".

Actually military law is sometimes counterproductive.
For example it requires FMJ bullets, despite them being often banned for hunting, because for hunting the required military bullets are considered inhumane.

Tear gas is illegal, but napalm like stuff is not.
Getting tear gassed is much better than being burned to death by gelled gasoline.
But under military law the burning to death is okay, but the tear gas is not.

Point is just because it is banned from military use does not mean it is actually more harmful than stuff that is allowed.

Quite often it is the opposite.

I think we all can agree it is better to be hit with tear gas than say 155MM HE artillery rounds.
In the military the tear gas is illegal, but the artillery is legal.

Obviously it would be silly for law enforcement to follow military rules.

[Fartsniffage]

Just imagine running a couple of miles on a warm day in quilted trousers and top, gas mask on, feet and hands covered in rubber. Then taking it all off other than the mask and getting in the chamber.

Waut, you got to keep your mask on?

Yes. To do eating and drinking drills. Then they had to come off to get a good taste of the gas.

[Novus America]

Got mine in June on a nice sunny day after a long run in NBC gear....

Yeah, well we didn't do NBC gear training. Our NBC was a mask and a precautionary nope away from the clouds of pain.

I did not get the tear gas fun in the Navy. Instead I got pepper spray.
It sucked because I had to stand a five hour watch right after it.
Not fun if you have sunburn plus lingering pepper spray. That stuff is hard to get off.

[Principium Secundi]

I do not know if anyone has said this before, I am just putting it out there because I am tired of seeing so much debate on the same topic. I believe that there is always a truth and a lie. Well, in this case, a correct way to solve the problem and an erratic one. So, the fact that we are still arguing means that something is missing. We are missing points, details, points of view, versions, whatever. All the time I see that someone mentions a problem and based on that generalizes a little bit in order to fit a bold, practical for some but unacceptable for others, solution. Then, some other guy comes saying how atrocious would be what the first guy proposed because of whatever humane reasons or he says that it would bring new problems which is unfair for some people. Then there is this guy saying that those people live wonderfully compared to the less fortunate living in less developed countries and so on. This keeps going as more and more people ignore problems others highlight, and bring new ones. Constantly offering ultimately unfair and subjective solutions to these problems while undermining and popping up more problems out of others' solutions. The only way this can be settled is by forgetting about the problem-solution thinking and start putting all the possibilities together. We need to start admitting there are all these problems out there and put importance to every single one of them, not forgetting about one of them because solving it would cause another problem that affects you more than others. First, we put all the issues together, then, we use CAPITALISM, BUSINESS, CREATIVENESS to solve them. If there is a problem, there is a demand for something. Young, creative minds (or whoever wants to do it) should come up with ways to address this issues. Thy should become entrepreneurs using these ideas, and look for fundraising and loans from the rich. USE TECHNOLOGY to ingeniously and profitably solve problems in new exciting ways. This ends up being good for business and therefore, the economy. A better economy means more business if the population is encouraged (by government's lack of restrictions and rewards programs). More business means a more demand for jobs. This can easily and quickly be filled with the constant inflow of immigrants. Some ideas for you: investigate how students of all types perform in different learning environments, make a study of how people learn more efficiently considering all aspects possible (psychology is in by the way). Finally, with all this data, make a new, innovative, more efficient educational system. This would mean a more educated population, which would mean more success and creativity. In order to feel inspired to solve the world's many problems, these educated people need to see the not only the issues inside but also outside the country. This is something the educational system could work on. Also, we would need to create a branch of education focused on fast-learning for immigrants. This one would have to be cheap enough for them to afford it, or maybe we could create a new "debt" system through which immigrants could get their masters and later on pay all the effort back. Yes, scholarships and grants have this role, but there are still so many that want to study but do not find the money to do it, especially immigrants. This way we could educate every one effectively and fast, including newcommers. The educational system would teach them to be intrepid entrepreneurs that would solve new problems through business instead of by asking the government to do something, and efficient workers that would constantly fill the positios offered by the ever increasing demand for jobs. What does all this add up to? Better economy based on innovation, better educatiuonal system that truly prepares the youth and the immigrants for the future, humanitarian natial policy due to acceptance of all, less fear (business dedicated to inventig new gadgets for the police and defense department that would increase security enough to not fear hazardous people comming from other countries), and little by little, a pioneer, elite society. There you go, one small idea for you to consider. Seems simple enough, lol.

[Fartsniffage]

I do not know if anyone has said this before, I am just putting it out there because I am tired of seeing so much debate on the same topic. I believe that there is always a truth and a lie. Well, in this case, a correct way to solve the problem and an erratic one. So, the fact that we are still arguing means that something is missing. We are missing points, details, points of view, versions, whatever. All the time I see that someone mentions a problem and based on that generalizes a little bit in order to fit a bold, practical for some but unacceptable for others, solution. Then, some other guy comes saying how atrocious would be what the first guy proposed because of whatever humane reasons or he says that it would bring new problems which is unfair for some people. Then there is this guy saying that those people live wonderfully compared to the less fortunate living in less developed countries and so on. This keeps going as more and more people ignore problems others highlight, and bring new ones. Constantly offering ultimately unfair and subjective solutions to these problems while undermining and popping up more problems out of others' solutions. The only way this can be settled is by forgetting about the problem-solution thinking and start putting all the possibilities together. We need to start admitting there are all these problems out there and put importance to every single one of them, not forgetting about one of them because solving it would cause another problem that affects you more than others. First, we put all the issues together, then, we use CAPITALISM, BUSINESS, CREATIVENESS to solve them. If there is a problem, there is a demand for something. Young, creative minds (or whoever wants to do it) should come up with ways to address this issues. Thy should become entrepreneurs using these ideas, and look for fundraising and loans from the rich. USE TECHNOLOGY to ingeniously and profitably solve problems in new exciting ways. This ends up being good for business and therefore, the economy. A better economy means more business if the population is encouraged (by government's lack of restrictions and rewards programs). More business means a more demand for jobs. This can easily and quickly be filled with the constant inflow of immigrants. Some ideas for you: investigate how students of all types perform in different learning environments, make a study of how people learn more efficiently considering all aspects possible (psychology is in by the way). Finally, with all this data, make a new, innovative, more efficient educational system. This would mean a more educated population, which would mean more success and creativity. In order to feel inspired to solve the world's many problems, these educated people need to see the not only the issues inside but also outside the country. This is something the educational system could work on. Also, we would need to create a branch of education focused on fast-learning for immigrants. This one would have to be cheap enough for them to afford it, or maybe we could create a new "debt" system through which immigrants could get their masters and later on pay all the effort back. Yes, scholarships and grants have this role, but there are still so many that want to study but do not find the money to do it, especially immigrants. This way we could educate every one effectively and fast, including newcommers. The educational system would teach them to be intrepid entrepreneurs that would solve new problems through business instead of by asking the government to do something, and efficient workers that would constantly fill the positios offered by the ever increasing demand for jobs. What does all this add up to? Better economy based on innovation, better educatiuonal system that truly prepares the youth and the immigrants for the future, humanitarian natial policy due to acceptance of all, less fear (business dedicated to inventig new gadgets for the police and defense department that would increase security enough to not fear hazardous people comming from other countries), and little by little, a pioneer, elite society. There you go, one small idea for you to consider. Seems simple enough, lol.

Dude....paragraphs. I read 2 lines and gave up.

[Novus America]

And recently, THIS HAPPENED: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trans-wom ... gist-finds

ABOLISH ICE

No, stop using private prisons. That was the problem, the fact that we outsource detainment to the lowest bidding mercenaries.

[Fartsniffage]

Yeah, well we didn't do NBC gear training. Our NBC was a mask and a precautionary nope away from the clouds of pain.

I did not get the tear gas fun in the Navy. Instead I got pepper spray.
It sucked because I had to stand a five hour watch right after it.
Not fun if you have sunburn plus lingering pepper spray. That stuff is hard to get off.

So if you're a member of the caravan, especially a child, the CS gas must have really sucked. They've been exposed to the elements for over a month. It must have hurt like fuck and it's not like they have showers.....

[The South Falls]

To Principium Secundi:

I mean, it was a long read, dude. Part of it was somewhat unnecessary.

But that whole solution, which can be boiled down to "educate immigrants" sounds like a great one, though I don't know if paying through effort would be expedient versus paying through money later earned.

[Novus America]

The Border Patrol using tear gas to break up a riot is not “Republicans tear gassing children”.

Who currently controls the federal government?

Political parties are different than the professional government employees, who are restricted from political involvement. Their rules and procedures were likely set before the current political group in power.

Not that what they did was wrong anyways, it was the best way to de-escalate the situation without serious injury or even death to potentially both sides.

[Novus America]

I did not get the tear gas fun in the Navy. Instead I got pepper spray.
It sucked because I had to stand a five hour watch right after it.
Not fun if you have sunburn plus lingering pepper spray. That stuff is hard to get off.

So if you're a member of the caravan, especially a child, the CS gas must have really sucked. They've been exposed to the elements for over a month. It must have hurt like fuck and it's not like they have showers.....

I am sure it did, although tear gas is a gas, not something that sticks to you.

But yes it surely sucked. But also sucked less than other options.

But yeah, parents who brought their children into the situation could almost certainly be charged with reckless endangerment.

Imagine if shooting broke out. Kids could have died.

Do not drag you kids into a riot against the Border Patrol.
Though actually the Border Patrol handled this much nicer than some other organizations might have.

[Northern Davincia]

ABOLISH ICE

No, stop using private prisons. That was the problem, the fact that we outsource detainment to the lowest bidding mercenaries.

[Principium Secundi]

What I mean is, do not see constant immigration as a problem, but rather as a variable. Une you can foolishly fight against or intelligently use. It is happening here and now. stopping it would require resources (as everything, really). In the end, you end up without that variable to play with and without those resources, you invested in. It is a business that does not pay much, apart from being humanitarian. NO! Find a way for constant immigration to be profitable and ACT! That's it, one single barrier standing in the way: making constant immigration profitable. After that, this problem will disappear and we will enter a new boom.

You can also use this principle to solve other issues. MAKE PROFIT OUT OF PROBLEMS!!! Make Business. Grow the Economy. One big guy that might clarify this and maybe approach it froma different angle is Elon Musk and his "Bored Elon" twitter account? It might be another platform, I am not sure, but the message is clear.

[Fartsniffage]

So if you're a member of the caravan, especially a child, the CS gas must have really sucked. They've been exposed to the elements for over a month. It must have hurt like fuck and it's not like they have showers.....

I am sure it did, although tear gas is a gas, not something that sticks to you.

But yes it surely sucked. But also sucked less than other options.

But yeah, parents who brought their children into the situation could almost certainly be charged with reckless endangerment.

Imagine if shooting broke out. Kids could have died.

Do not drag you kids into a riot against the Border Patrol.
Though actually the Border Patrol handled this much nicer than some other organizations might have.

CS gas sticks to you if your skin is moist. Like if your're sweating.