Thousands of Hondurans heading toward the US

[Trumptonium1]

Refuses? Do you know how much goes into our welfare program? about 235 billion US Dollars. thats quite a bit. they don't refuse to help our citizens, they just don't know how. We need a serious reform in the welfare program before we just let in a whole caravan of people.

*EDIT* We spend 462 billion US Dollars on welfare.

Yes, refuses. Republicans, generally, don't want to help other people. You can tell because they're tear gassing children for fear that those children might ask them for help.

TIL not bending over for criminals is tantamount to the quality of selfishness

[Cannot think of a name]

I'll remember that the next time you complain about Democrats not enforcing immigration law

Don't worry at this rate I'll have an arm long gray beard while I'm rocking in a chair on my patio complaining about the kids of today before Democrats grab any power again.

You planning on aging a lot before January?

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Yes, refuses. Republicans, generally, don't want to help other people. You can tell because they're tear gassing children for fear that those children might ask them for help.

TIL not bending over for criminals is tantamount to the quality of selfishness

TIL following the law is tantamount to bending over for criminals

[Fartsniffage]

i was wondering as to *why* he was tear gassed.

Someone thought it'd be funny to do it in a movie theater I worked at. Not sure how that's relevant.

Really? I figured you'd have been then the chamber during training for Walrus Team 6.....

[Cannot think of a name]

Someone thought it'd be funny to do it in a movie theater I worked at. Not sure how that's relevant.

Really? I figured you'd have been then the chamber during training for Walrus Team 6.....

We're not even allowed to acknowledge Walrus Team 6.

[Liriena]

And that doesn't concern you?

"Hey, you can't use this shit against soldiers in a war zone... but against unarmed civilians and at the hands of less trained people? Hell yeah dude!"


Using chemical weapons against people for attacking an inanimate object?


Because they are desperate?


Fuck that shit. If any of those kids suffer because of the chemical weapons you chose to use, that's on you. If a kid dies, that's on you. The parents may have been reckless, but the ones with the weapons and the ones who took the shot were you.

This is the same cowardly bullshit your government tried to pull when they put children in concentration camps.

Your lack of understanding of international law is not my fault.
Law enforcement and military are different.

I'm aware of how the law applies to this. My argument is not "this is illegal". My argument is "this is wrong".

[Trumptonium1]

Don't worry at this rate I'll have an arm long gray beard while I'm rocking in a chair on my patio complaining about the kids of today before Democrats grab any power again.

You planning on aging a lot before January?

This part is easy. The harder part is affording a house with a patio.

[Fartsniffage]

Really? I figured you'd have been then the chamber during training for Walrus Team 6.....

We're not even allowed to acknowledge Walrus Team 6.

....a nod is as good as a wink to a blind man.

[Trumptonium1]

It is a war crime to use it in war. It is not a crime to use it for law enforcement.
They are very different things.

And that doesn't concern you?

"Hey, you can't use this shit against soldiers in a war zone... but against unarmed civilians and at the hands of less trained people? Hell yeah dude!"

It was targeted against those attacking the fence.

Using chemical weapons against people for attacking an inanimate object?

The question here is why parents thought it a good idea to take children along through a giant open sewer.

Because they are desperate?

If you bring you kids to a riot, it is on you.

Fuck that shit. If any of those kids suffer because of the chemical weapons you chose to use, that's on you. If a kid dies, that's on you. The parents may have been reckless, but the ones with the weapons and the ones who took the shot were you.

This is the same cowardly bullshit your government tried to pull when they put children in concentration camps.

It's illegal to transport cattle above 30C, yet the government of Kuwait allows people to live within it. Doesn't this inhumanity concern you?

[Liriena]

Oh, really? Let me check... oh, no, it's actually not "just water and pepper". It's actually a chemical compound called 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile, and it appears its side effects can include pulmonary damage and neurodegeneration... which would definitely suck if you were an adult, but specially if you were just an innocent kid whose only crime was being on the wrong side of the border when some racist fuckheads decided to pander to their cultists with an unnecessary escalation.

So... where did you get your facts?

It's still not a chemical weapon. :')

Facts don't care about your feelings.

It's a weapon, albeit a generally non-lethal one, based on a chemical compound. It's a chemical weapon by definition. If you don't like it because of the historical connotations, that's your problem.

You're just making up some emotion-fueled nonsense.

Wise, level-headed words from... the guy who was gleefully celebrating the violent repression.

Why did some of those migrants supposedly rush the border? Why did they throw rocks? How did things escalate to that point?

They were told to wait in Mexico while their asylum applications were being processed. Apparently sitting and waiting is far too difficult.

That's it? There seems to be a gap in there, or things escalated insanely fast.

Well, you're definitely not the fiddler on the roof, so...

Is this you being clever?

Not really. That was actually me not even bothering to try and think of something witty.

Cause if it is then I'd prefer being tear-gassed to having to listen to it.

Don't threaten me with a good time.

[Liriena]

So how many casualties on the brave border warriors' side?

Literally an entire mob of rioters and everyone in it < the safety of one American immigration officer

I respectfully disagree.

[Cannot think of a name]

We're not even allowed to acknowledge Walrus Team 6.

....a nod is as good as a wink to a blind man.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

And that doesn't concern you?

"Hey, you can't use this shit against soldiers in a war zone... but against unarmed civilians and at the hands of less trained people? Hell yeah dude!"


Using chemical weapons against people for attacking an inanimate object?


Because they are desperate?


Fuck that shit. If any of those kids suffer because of the chemical weapons you chose to use, that's on you. If a kid dies, that's on you. The parents may have been reckless, but the ones with the weapons and the ones who took the shot were you.

This is the same cowardly bullshit your government tried to pull when they put children in concentration camps.

It's illegal to transport cattle above 30C, yet the government of Kuwait allows people to live within it. Doesn't this inhumanity concern you?

...Not the same thing?

[Liriena]

It's illegal to transport cattle above 30C, yet the government of Kuwait allows people to live within it. Doesn't this inhumanity concern you?

...Not the same thing?

Yeaaaaah. There's kind of like a hundred layers of historical, economic and ethical shit separating those two.

[Rojava Free State]

I'm so utterly disappointed that this country is throwing hate and contempt toward desperate, scared people. There are mothers trying to save their kids from war level violence in the cities and towns of Central America, and the land of the free decided it doesn't want the tired, poor and oppressed.

Then again, Trump's election made me very disillusioned with this nation. Things weren't great under Obama and I definitely had my issues with him, but Trump is like hitting rock bottom. Any hope for this country just died.

A large number of Americans supported a man who claimed that illegal immigrants were basically all dangerous monsters, which is simply not true for most. This president also claimed that thousands of Arab Americans cheered on 9/11, without any evidence to back his claims. This man threatened riots if the RNC didnt nominate him for the presidential race. This man refused to respect the election results if he lost, which could've triggered widespread violence from his supporters. This president denies that thousands of ppl died in puerto rico, my ancestral home, after Hurricane Maria. This is the guy who supported body slamming a reporter. This is the guy who egged on his supporters to violently assault protesters at his rally. This is the same guy who called Europe "our foes" and Canada "a security threat."


But did Americans in a massive blowout vote Jim Webb into office? NOPE. The democrats first made sure to nominate Hillary Clinton through less than fair means, stopping Americans from voting for an actually good candidate.
Then Trump won.

We live in a society now where increasingly emboldened white nationalists come out into the open to reak havoc (charlottesville is just one example of many) and a society where "brown people" (whatever that is) are increasingly viewed as a threat to the US. Every Arab and Latin man woman and child is constantly demeaned and dehumanized as nothing but a threat to society. I myself was not fortunate enough to avoid several death threats to my own life, simply for a critical reply to the twitter account of a local Trumpster I personally knew, of about my age.

And recently, THIS HAPPENED: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trans-wom ... gist-finds

This is the same agency that Trump has used to separate mothers from children, and which housed thousands of people in horrific conditions for weeks on end. I'm sorry, how exactly are we better than the rest of the world?
cause we violate human rights and don't even attempt to hide it anymore?

Every person who continues to support the current embarassment in chief makes me honestly ashamed for the first time in my life to be an American. I've never seen so much hatred and cruelty supported by this many of my own country's citizens. I thought we were better than this.

Here's the thing. We can have border security while also granting asylum to women and children in danger. We can fight islamic terrorism without scapegoating our whole muslim american population, which is mostly good men women and kids who did nothing wrong and don't deserve this hatred and loathing. We can stop extreme leftist intolerance without becoming far right authoritarians.

But if you want to save American freedom, the policies of trump are not the answer, and I'm hoping to God that in 2020, #1 the democrats pick someone who isnt either an SJW or a crook, and #2 Americans vote Donny out of office in a landslide and send his most delusional supporters crawling back into the shadows forever. I'm done watching everything this nation supposedly stands for be erroded away day by day.

Can't we have someone who isn't a fascist or communist?


update: if anyone who opposes trump and his policies is an enemy of the people now, I guess by that logic most Americans are now enemies of the American people.

https://www.newsweek.com/disapproval-do ... st-1232037

[Balnik]

Tldr plz

[Senkaku]

But did Americans in a massive blowout vote Jim Webb into office? NOPE. The democrats first made sure to nominate Hillary Clinton through less than fair means, stopping Americans from voting for an actually good candidate.
Then Trump won.

Lol

[Northern Davincia]

The Border Patrol using tear gas to break up a riot is not “Republicans tear gassing children”.

Who currently controls the federal government?

2/3 of it at this point.

[Cannot think of a name]

Tldr plz

Why do we care about what you have and haven't read?

[Balnik]

Tldr plz

Why do we care about what you have and haven't read?

Because I don't wanna read an entire wall of text of 101 reasons why someone hates Trump. Only the juicy bits:P

[Fartsniffage]

Why do we care about what you have and haven't read?

Because I don't wanna read an entire wall of text of 101 reasons why someone hates Trump. Only the juicy bits:P

Nuance is dying....

[Liriena]

And recently, THIS HAPPENED: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trans-wom ... gist-finds

ABOLISH ICE

[Balnik]

Because I don't wanna read an entire wall of text of 101 reasons why someone hates Trump. Only the juicy bits:P

Nuance is dying....

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Mujikhistan]

I'd like to take this opportunity to urge all countries to help de-escalate the situation, so that it all can be solved by means of dialogue, tolerance, perseverance and humanity.

[Telconi]

Gee, wonder why.

Probably because for most people it really fucking sucks. Not only does it fuck with their breathing, their skin feels like it's on fire if they're sweating even a little bit.

TFW Gas in December

TFW freezing cold

TFW still sweating buckets because gas, inviting all the CS to fuck me right up.