Thousands of Hondurans heading toward the US

[Northern Davincia]

So did we actually get evidence of rock throwing or is it still true purely because the Government said so?

Welcome to the conspiracy theorist crowd.

[Novus America]

Umm they lethally shot people for trying to leave. Completely different.
If you use tear gas or pepper spray on someone trying to break into your house that is one thing.
Shooting and killing someone with live ammunition for leaving is totally different.

Either way, the border is secure, yes? Certainly if you can keep people in, you can also keep people out.

We dealt with this humanely and without deaths.

[Balnik]

Hm. A few months after my last posts here it appeared I was right, they tried to forcibly storm the border. Anyways, hopefully Mexico deals with this soon. I can't imagine the strain it must have on a community to have these people around.

[Cannot think of a name]

Tear gas is in fact a chemical weapon whose use in warfare is banned by many countries including the United States.

Tear gas, formally known as a lachrymator agent or lachrymator (from the Latin lacrima, meaning "tear"), sometimes colloquially known as mace,[NB 1] is a chemical weapon that causes severe eye and respiratory pain, skin irritation, bleeding, and even blindness.

Riot control agents (sometimes referred to as “tear gas”) are chemical compounds that temporarily make people unable to function by causing irritation to the eyes, mouth, throat, lungs, and skin.

The Chemical Weapons Convention of 1993 should put this potential argument to rest. Tear gas is a chemical agent that is banned in warfare per this 1993 agreement which was signed by nearly every country, including the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas
https://hillreporter.com/fact-check-is- ... apon-15567
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... f5b006c78d

[Novus America]

Tear gas is in fact a chemical weapon whose use in warfare is banned by many countries including the United States.

Tear gas, formally known as a lachrymator agent or lachrymator (from the Latin lacrima, meaning "tear"), sometimes colloquially known as mace,[NB 1] is a chemical weapon that causes severe eye and respiratory pain, skin irritation, bleeding, and even blindness.

Riot control agents (sometimes referred to as “tear gas”) are chemical compounds that temporarily make people unable to function by causing irritation to the eyes, mouth, throat, lungs, and skin.

The Chemical Weapons Convention of 1993 should put this potential argument to rest. Tear gas is a chemical agent that is banned in warfare per this 1993 agreement which was signed by nearly every country, including the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas
https://hillreporter.com/fact-check-is- ... apon-15567
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... f5b006c78d

True. It is illegal in war. But it is not illegal in law enforcement.
This was not war.

[Balnik]

Tear gas is in fact a chemical weapon whose use in warfare is banned by many countries including the United States.

Tear gas, formally known as a lachrymator agent or lachrymator (from the Latin lacrima, meaning "tear"), sometimes colloquially known as mace,[NB 1] is a chemical weapon that causes severe eye and respiratory pain, skin irritation, bleeding, and even blindness.

Riot control agents (sometimes referred to as “tear gas”) are chemical compounds that temporarily make people unable to function by causing irritation to the eyes, mouth, throat, lungs, and skin.

The Chemical Weapons Convention of 1993 should put this potential argument to rest. Tear gas is a chemical agent that is banned in warfare per this 1993 agreement which was signed by nearly every country, including the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas
https://hillreporter.com/fact-check-is- ... apon-15567
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... f5b006c78d

I didn't realize that dispersing a riot counts as warfare. But nonetheless woudlnt you also agree that pepper spray, another lachrymator would be considered a chemical weapon and shouldn't be used? Then what are we left with. Beanbag shells, bullets, and water cannons. I doubt the usage of tear gas is the real problem here.

[Cannot think of a name]

Tear gas is in fact a chemical weapon whose use in warfare is banned by many countries including the United States.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas
https://hillreporter.com/fact-check-is- ... apon-15567
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... f5b006c78d

True. It is illegal in war. But it is not illegal in law enforcement.
This was not war.

It is, in fact, a chemical weapon. Just putting that completely stupid argument to bed.

[Cannot think of a name]

Tear gas is in fact a chemical weapon whose use in warfare is banned by many countries including the United States.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas
https://hillreporter.com/fact-check-is- ... apon-15567
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... f5b006c78d

I didn't realize that dispersing a riot counts as warfare. But nonetheless woudlnt you also agree that pepper spray, another lachrymator would be considered a chemical weapon and shouldn't be used? Then what are we left with. Beanbag shells, bullets, and water cannons. I doubt the usage of tear gas is the real problem here.

There was a completely stupid assertion that tear gas was not a chemical weapon and just 'water and pepper.' This was disingenuous at best and completely wrong.

You are free to argue that a chemical agent deemed too severe for warfare is perfectly acceptable to use on civilian populations that include children to your hearts delight. You cannot lie about what that chemical agent is.

[Enjuku]

Somehow the US does its very best to NOT be resourceful.

You'd think a reasonable government would send people to process, accept, or deny their asylum applications but instead it sends the military and uses tear gas when they try to cross. Talk about escalating a bad situation.

I wonder if they were neo-Nazis instead of POC if the men at the border would've let them in and bought them Burger King?

[Northern Davincia]

Somehow the US does its very best to NOT be resourceful.

You'd think a reasonable government would send people to process, accept, or deny their asylum applications but instead it sends the military and uses tear gas when they try to cross. Talk about escalating a bad situation.

I wonder if they were neo-Nazis instead of POC if the men at the border would've let them in and bought them Burger King?

Lawbreakers don't get to cross by tearing down a border fence and throwing rocks.

[Cannot think of a name]

Somehow the US does its very best to NOT be resourceful.

You'd think a reasonable government would send people to process, accept, or deny their asylum applications but instead it sends the military and uses tear gas when they try to cross. Talk about escalating a bad situation.

I wonder if they were neo-Nazis instead of POC if the men at the border would've let them in and bought them Burger King?

Lawbreakers don't get to cross by tearing down a border fence and throwing rocks.

That's not really a response to what he said.

[Vassenor]

I didn't realize that dispersing a riot counts as warfare. But nonetheless woudlnt you also agree that pepper spray, another lachrymator would be considered a chemical weapon and shouldn't be used? Then what are we left with. Beanbag shells, bullets, and water cannons. I doubt the usage of tear gas is the real problem here.

There was a completely stupid assertion that tear gas was not a chemical weapon and just 'water and pepper.' This was disingenuous at best and completely wrong.

You are free to argue that a chemical agent deemed too severe for warfare is perfectly acceptable to use on civilian populations that include children to your hearts delight. You cannot lie about what that chemical agent is.

I'm just going to let this statement from a retired US Army CBRN specialist draw a line under the whole "it's just water and pepper" crap.

[Enjuku]

Somehow the US does its very best to NOT be resourceful.

You'd think a reasonable government would send people to process, accept, or deny their asylum applications but instead it sends the military and uses tear gas when they try to cross. Talk about escalating a bad situation.

I wonder if they were neo-Nazis instead of POC if the men at the border would've let them in and bought them Burger King?

Lawbreakers don't get to cross by tearing down a border fence and throwing rocks.

It's legal to apply for asylum at the border FYI

Also according to the people at the border it was a couple of men who were throwing rocks and rushing the fence. Why they used tear gas knowing all the women and kids would be collatoral damage vis-a-vie the wind is beyond me. It's just bad strategy and bad optics imo.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Tear gas is in fact a chemical weapon whose use in warfare is banned by many countries including the United States.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas
https://hillreporter.com/fact-check-is- ... apon-15567
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... f5b006c78d

True. It is illegal in war. But it is not illegal in law enforcement.
This was not war.

Which US laws had been broken, exactly? Last I heard, this had been done while the migrants were still in Mexico.

[Cannot think of a name]

There was a completely stupid assertion that tear gas was not a chemical weapon and just 'water and pepper.' This was disingenuous at best and completely wrong.

You are free to argue that a chemical agent deemed too severe for warfare is perfectly acceptable to use on civilian populations that include children to your hearts delight. You cannot lie about what that chemical agent is.

I'm just going to let this statement from a retired US Army CBRN specialist draw a line under the whole "it's just water and pepper" crap.

Having been tear gassed before, I agree.

[Northern Davincia]

True. It is illegal in war. But it is not illegal in law enforcement.
This was not war.

Which US laws had been broken, exactly? Last I heard, this had been done while the migrants were still in Mexico.

Tearing down a border fence is against US law, believe it or not. Attacking Americans with rocks is also illegal.

[Fartsniffage]

There was a completely stupid assertion that tear gas was not a chemical weapon and just 'water and pepper.' This was disingenuous at best and completely wrong.

You are free to argue that a chemical agent deemed too severe for warfare is perfectly acceptable to use on civilian populations that include children to your hearts delight. You cannot lie about what that chemical agent is.

I'm just going to let this statement from a retired US Army CBRN specialist draw a line under the whole "it's just water and pepper" crap.

CS gas just clears the sinuses. I've felt worse after a really hot curry.

[Loben]

I'm just going to let this statement from a retired US Army CBRN specialist draw a line under the whole "it's just water and pepper" crap.

Having been tear gassed before, I agree.

Gee, wonder why.

[Trumptonium1]

This is an opinion not a fact. Laws don't have to be enforced, especially if they are incredibly stupid.

I'll remember that the next time you complain about Democrats not enforcing immigration law

Don't worry at this rate I'll have an arm long gray beard while I'm rocking in a chair on my patio complaining about the kids of today before Democrats grab any power again.

[Fartsniffage]

Having been tear gassed before, I agree.

Gee, wonder why.

Probably because for most people it really fucking sucks. Not only does it fuck with their breathing, their skin feels like it's on fire if they're sweating even a little bit.

[Loben]

Gee, wonder why.

Probably because for most people it really fucking sucks. Not only does it fuck with their breathing, their skin feels like it's on fire if they're sweating even a little bit.

i was wondering as to *why* he was tear gassed.

[Trumptonium1]

This is an opinion not a fact. Laws don't have to be enforced, especially if they are incredibly stupid.

Hell yeah dude!

Write it in a calendar - we agree on something.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Gee, wonder why.

Probably because for most people it really fucking sucks. Not only does it fuck with their breathing, their skin feels like it's on fire if they're sweating even a little bit.

Fun shit, ain't it?

Who else wants a second go in the gas chamber?

[Ifreann]

Yes, refuses. Republicans, generally, don't want to help other people. You can tell because they're tear gassing children for fear that those children might ask them for help.

The Border Patrol using tear gas to break up a riot is not “Republicans tear gassing children”.

Who currently controls the federal government?

[Cannot think of a name]

Probably because for most people it really fucking sucks. Not only does it fuck with their breathing, their skin feels like it's on fire if they're sweating even a little bit.

i was wondering as to *why* he was tear gassed.

Someone thought it'd be funny to do it in a movie theater I worked at. Not sure how that's relevant.