Thousands of Hondurans heading toward the US

[Vassenor]

I second this.

True

Because economically destroying the country will reduce people emigrating from it.

[Kubumba Tribe]

You mean the terrorism being carried out by native-born Europeans? Live we've discussed in this thread before?

i mean the term "native" is kinda lost when you grew up in a isolated community full of people fanatically opposed to western civilization.

No it doesn't. "Native" is defined as someone who was born in a certain place.

[Loben]

i mean the term "native" is kinda lost when you grew up in a isolated community full of people fanatically opposed to western civilization.

No it doesn't. "Native" is defined as someone who was born in a certain place.

except when its for a narrative of "the evil descendants of colonizers destroyed a prosperous native society" or some other clap trap.

[Kubumba Tribe]

No it doesn't. "Native" is defined as someone who was born in a certain place.

except when its for a narrative of "the evil descendants of colonizers destroyed a prosperous native society" or some other clap trap.

No, what I said is the dictionary definition of "native": https://www.google.com/search?q=native& ... e&ie=UTF-8
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/native
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/native
So far the definition hasn't changed.

[Annihitor the Incred]

True

Because economically destroying the country will reduce people emigrating from it.

You need a certain (read considerable) amount of money to pay traffickers to transport you, so yes. Unless all those refugees are walking thousands of miles on foot.

The really poor are displaced internally.

[Ifreann]

Because economically destroying the country will reduce people emigrating from it.

You need a certain (read considerable) amount of money to pay traffickers to transport you, so yes. Unless all those refugees are walking thousands of miles on foot.

The really poor are displaced internally.

"People aren't just going to walk to the US" he said, in a thread about thousands of people who walked to the US.

[Annihitor the Incred]

You need a certain (read considerable) amount of money to pay traffickers to transport you, so yes. Unless all those refugees are walking thousands of miles on foot.

The really poor are displaced internally.

"People aren't just going to walk to the US" he said, in a thread about thousands of people who walked to the US.

Show me. It would be a "Long March" or "Trail of Tears" event, with a small percentage of survivors. You know the distance, right?

[Luminesa]

And how is that relevant to the matter at hand?

Chances are these migrants will live in them, likely hated even by Mexicans and others of their class for increased competition.

i admire mexicans, at least americanized ones are decent.

Are you really living if you’re stuck in a ghetto, worrying about whether or not you’re going to be killed in a fight between cartels or something?

[Greater Carolinas]

I think Mexico should be responsible for them because they reached Mexico first, at least the vast majority.

[Neutraligon]

I think Mexico should be responsible for them because they reached Mexico first, at least the vast majority.

No duh they reached Mexico first. If they are walking geography kinda demands that.

[Greater Carolinas]

I think Mexico should be responsible for them because they reached Mexico first, at least the vast majority.

No duh they reached Mexico first. If they are walking geography kinda demands that.

Yes so then why is a solution not to let the Mexican government find accommodation for them? Should they get a boat ride to Europe because they think a Scandinavian country would take better care of them? I think the Mexican government is capable enough to find accommodations for them, so why should the us do it instead? Frankly I think it's ridiculous that anyone would treat mexico as if it's not a functioning state capable of taking care of refugees

[Ifreann]

"People aren't just going to walk to the US" he said, in a thread about thousands of people who walked to the US.

Show me. It would be a "Long March" or "Trail of Tears" event, with a small percentage of survivors. You know the distance, right?

I do. It's been in the news for quite some time now, owing to the fact that it takes several weeks to walk all that way. I'm a little surprised that this is the first you've heard about it, since it is literally the topic of this thread. Are you really that disconnected from current events?

[Vassenor]

I think Mexico should be responsible for them because they reached Mexico first, at least the vast majority.

Ah yes, the BUT THE FIRST SAFE COUNTRY myth.

Everybody drink.

[Kowani]

No duh they reached Mexico first. If they are walking geography kinda demands that.

Yes so then why is a solution not to let the Mexican government find accommodation for them? Should they get a boat ride to Europe because they think a Scandinavian country would take better care of them? I think the Mexican government is capable enough to find accommodations for them, so why should the us do it instead? Frankly I think it's ridiculous that anyone would treat mexico as if it's not a functioning state capable of taking care of refugees

Because that’s not how asylum works? At all. Mexico does not qualify as a safe country. Yeah, it’s better than Honduras. But if you’re fleeing the Nazis, you don’t run straight to the Soviets.

[Greater Carolinas]

Yes so then why is a solution not to let the Mexican government find accommodation for them? Should they get a boat ride to Europe because they think a Scandinavian country would take better care of them? I think the Mexican government is capable enough to find accommodations for them, so why should the us do it instead? Frankly I think it's ridiculous that anyone would treat mexico as if it's not a functioning state capable of taking care of refugees

Because that’s not how asylum works? At all. Mexico does not qualify as a safe country. Yeah, it’s better than Honduras. But if you’re fleeing the Nazis, you don’t run straight to the Soviets.

stupid gringos don't talk shit about mexico acting like you need white people running a country for it to be safe cartel violence does not effect normal people and yet you act like mexico is people getting murdered by cartels they were offered help by Tijuana and yet you filthy americans act like that would be as bad as honduras

[Ifreann]

I think Mexico should be responsible for them because they reached Mexico first, at least the vast majority.

Ah yes, the BUT THE FIRST SAFE COUNTRY myth.

Everybody drink.

I'd love to hear how people walked from Honduras to Mexico without passing through any other country.

Guatemala, is it even real?

[Greater Carolinas]

Ah yes, the BUT THE FIRST SAFE COUNTRY myth.

Everybody drink.

I'd love to hear how people walked from Honduras to Mexico without passing through any other country.

Guatemala, is it even real?

Yeah but it's not run by white people or rich enough so it isn't safe enough for the hondurans apparently.

[South Ccanda]

So, it seems that mexico is realizing the problems that come with the migrant caravan.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46339085

[Ifreann]

So, it seems that mexico is realizing the problems that come with the migrant caravan.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46339085

That's a story from November.

[Luminesa]

I'd love to hear how people walked from Honduras to Mexico without passing through any other country.

Guatemala, is it even real?

Yeah but it's not run by white people or rich enough so it isn't safe enough for the hondurans apparently.

Guatemala has a high crime rate, and Guatemala City is one of the most dangerous cities in the world: https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gall ... n-pictures

[South Ccanda]

So, it seems that mexico is realizing the problems that come with the migrant caravan.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46339085

That's a story from November.

november of...2018. its still technically recent. its hasn't even been over a month since the article came out

heck, it even includes the storming of the border, so its quite relevant

[Novus America]

Yes so then why is a solution not to let the Mexican government find accommodation for them? Should they get a boat ride to Europe because they think a Scandinavian country would take better care of them? I think the Mexican government is capable enough to find accommodations for them, so why should the us do it instead? Frankly I think it's ridiculous that anyone would treat mexico as if it's not a functioning state capable of taking care of refugees

Because that’s not how asylum works? At all. Mexico does not qualify as a safe country. Yeah, it’s better than Honduras. But if you’re fleeing the Nazis, you don’t run straight to the Soviets.

It actually does. General safety is not a factor, persecution is. Are they being persecuted based on race, ethnicity, political opinions in Mexico? If not it is safe for asylum purposes.

[South Ccanda]

Because that’s not how asylum works? At all. Mexico does not qualify as a safe country. Yeah, it’s better than Honduras. But if you’re fleeing the Nazis, you don’t run straight to the Soviets.

It actually does. General safety is not a factor, persecution is. Are they being persecuted based on race, ethnicity, political opinions in Mexico? If not it is safe for asylum purposes.

it honestly looks like no one wants them though. crowds of protesters in Tijuana calling them "Invaders" and the mayor has even declared a humanitarian crisis because of the large amount of people who have gathered there now.

[Ifreann]

That's a story from November.

november of...2018. its still technically recent. its hasn't even been over a month since the article came out

heck, it even includes the storming of the border, so its quite relevant

You said that Mexico "is realizing" something, based on an article from two weeks ago.

Do you think that the nation of Mexico is so stupid that they take two weeks to react to something?

[Novus America]

It actually does. General safety is not a factor, persecution is. Are they being persecuted based on race, ethnicity, political opinions in Mexico? If not it is safe for asylum purposes.

it honestly looks like no one wants them though. crowds of protesters in Tijuana calling them "Invaders" and the mayor has even declared a humanitarian crisis because of the large amount of people who have gathered there now.

True the people of Tijuana do not want this, but Mexico is willing to accommodate many, but presumably they would need to be more evenly distributed throughout Mexico, not all concentrated in Tijuana.

Mexico with its rapidly dropping birth rate will need some immigration to maintain its work force.