Thousands of Hondurans heading toward the US

[Grand Britannia]

Would be funny if they kept marching through the US to Canada.

They should.

[Vassenor]

Help out the border patrol to stop them from illegally migrating, scare them away with their guns.

To request asylum they mist first enter the US. Are you saying they should prevent people who may be seeking asylum from entering the US? AS to scaring people away with guns, how would you do that. I am pretty sure shooting at civilians to scare them away when they pose no physical danger is illegal.

Under PC the National Guard needs actual congressional authorisation to do that anyway.

[Renolia]

Which will still cost money...a lot of money. And...what exactly will they do when they are there?

Sorting out the criminals, letting the decent people in and letting them work etc. actually rakes in revenue.

If not gee, I guess Germanies debts ought to have skyrocketed since 2015 since we´re letting lots of em in... Wait what? Oh, seems our debts are in a skyfall since 2015. But surely, our debt is falling because immigrants cost oh so much :clap:

You seem to be misunderstanding what he is saying. He is saying that sending the national guard to assist the border guard will be expensive, which it will.

[Neutraligon]

Which will still cost money...a lot of money. And...what exactly will they do when they are there?

Sorting out the criminals,

Which would be expensive, as noted earlier. Also, sorting out how?

letting the decent people in and letting them work etc. actually rakes in revenue.

If not gee, I guess Germanies debts ought to have skyrocketed since 2015 since we´re letting lots of em in... Wait what? Oh, seems our debts are in a skyfall since 2015. But surely, our debt is falling because immigrants cost oh so much

Oh I am aware that immigration help, my talk was about more immediate expenses.

[Azurius]

Why would they want to enter to such a crappy country? If I'm Latino I would stay in Mexico. Disinformation is killing USA, open your eyes, Honduras is a hellhole and a lot of those people are doing the job that Americans wouldn't do, they can even teach Spanish to your people

Where are all these jobs that American's turn their nose up at with such intense disdain, I wonder? Sounds like it's somewhere in Makebelieve, Oklahoma.

To assume there are jobs American's wouldn't do is just ridiculous and nonsensical. I know several people that would give their own arms to be able to work a field.

I feel like you're just trying to play at satire though with following up "Disinformation is killing USA" with actual disinformation.

Then why are at least 50% of all people on a construction site immigrants?

Or also why is germanies debt falling if we western people are oh so hard working and efficient?

Please explain.

[Harelia]

Would be funny if they kept marching through the US to Canada.

Technically they could march through Canada and end up back in the US simply by going to Alaska.

[Neutraligon]

Why would they want to enter to such a crappy country? If I'm Latino I would stay in Mexico. Disinformation is killing USA, open your eyes, Honduras is a hellhole and a lot of those people are doing the job that Americans wouldn't do, they can even teach Spanish to your people

Where are all these jobs that American's turn their nose up at with such intense disdain, I wonder? Sounds like it's somewhere in Makebelieve, Oklahoma.

To assume there are jobs American's wouldn't do is just ridiculous and nonsensical. I know several people that would give their own arms to be able to work a field.

I feel like you're just trying to play at satire though with following up "Disinformation is killing USA" with actual disinformation.

Mainly in agriculture, although they also are a main part of the workforce in a few other areas.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2 ... feff27492a

[Azurius]

Sorting out the criminals,

Which would be expensive, as noted earlier. Also, sorting out how?

letting the decent people in and letting them work etc. actually rakes in revenue.

If not gee, I guess Germanies debts ought to have skyrocketed since 2015 since we´re letting lots of em in... Wait what? Oh, seems our debts are in a skyfall since 2015. But surely, our debt is falling because immigrants cost oh so much

Oh I am aware that immigration helps, my
That depends on a few things.

Okay we have... Option 1: Sort it out(costs a BIT) and rake in long term profits that easily and by far outweigh anything you invested?

Or option 2: Send them back(people like you seem to forget that that COSTS MONEY TOO lmao), increase the problem... --> more crime,more immigrants will come, you will need to send more and more back... costs ever increasing... Cartels gain more power, trafick drugs in your country too, again insane law enforcement costs that just keep piling up...

But okay fine, suit yourself, the sooner America falls the sooner the world lost the biggest tyrannt on the planet which is only good in my books.

[Chernoslavia]

Help out the border patrol to stop them from illegally migrating, scare them away with their guns.

To request asylum they mist first enter the US. Are you saying they should prevent people who may be seeking asylum from entering the US? AS to scaring people away with guns, how would you do that. I am pretty sure shooting at civilians to scare them away when they pose no physical danger is illegal.

That's not how to request asylum. And no I'm not saying we should shoot them.

[Harelia]

Where are all these jobs that American's turn their nose up at with such intense disdain, I wonder? Sounds like it's somewhere in Makebelieve, Oklahoma.

To assume there are jobs American's wouldn't do is just ridiculous and nonsensical. I know several people that would give their own arms to be able to work a field.

I feel like you're just trying to play at satire though with following up "Disinformation is killing USA" with actual disinformation.

Then why are at least 50% of all people on a construction site immigrants?

Or also why is germanies debt falling if we western people are oh so hard working and efficient?

Please explain.

I'm not understanding where 'the germanies" comes in (It's just called Germany, dude) so I'll leave that one alone.

As for at least 50% of construction sites employing immigrants?

I'm gonna need to see some fax.

[Neutraligon]

To request asylum they mist first enter the US. Are you saying they should prevent people who may be seeking asylum from entering the US? AS to scaring people away with guns, how would you do that. I am pretty sure shooting at civilians to scare them away when they pose no physical danger is illegal.

That's not how to request asylum. And no I'm not saying we should shoot them.

You have to be on US territory to start the process to to get asylum. And what are you saying, because I doubt people walking around with guns is going to scare these people.

[Renolia]

Where are all these jobs that American's turn their nose up at with such intense disdain, I wonder? Sounds like it's somewhere in Makebelieve, Oklahoma.

To assume there are jobs American's wouldn't do is just ridiculous and nonsensical. I know several people that would give their own arms to be able to work a field.

I feel like you're just trying to play at satire though with following up "Disinformation is killing USA" with actual disinformation.

Then why are at least 50% of all people on a construction site immigrants?

Or also why is germanies debt falling if we western people are oh so hard working and efficient?

Please explain.

To imply that the cause for Germany's debt decreasing is immigrants is absurd. Look at Italy, Greece, Spain, France, or nearly any other European country. Why do we not see this same decrease? Do you think that perhaps there are other things impacting Germany's debt?

[Trumptonium1]

Why would they want to enter to such a crappy country? If I'm Latino I would stay in Mexico. Disinformation is killing USA, open your eyes, Honduras is a hellhole and a lot of those people are doing the job that Americans wouldn't do, they can even teach Spanish to your people

Where are all these jobs that American's turn their nose up at with such intense disdain, I wonder? Sounds like it's somewhere in Makebelieve, Oklahoma.

To assume there are jobs American's wouldn't do is just ridiculous and nonsensical. I know several people that would give their own arms to be able to work a field.

I feel like you're just trying to play at satire though with following up "Disinformation is killing USA" with actual disinformation.

I think it is perfectly reasonable to say that it's okay for people to come to do jobs that Americans won't do. Like voting Democrat.

[Azurius]

Sorting out the criminals, letting the decent people in and letting them work etc. actually rakes in revenue.

If not gee, I guess Germanies debts ought to have skyrocketed since 2015 since we´re letting lots of em in... Wait what? Oh, seems our debts are in a skyfall since 2015. But surely, our debt is falling because immigrants cost oh so much

You seem to be misunderstanding what he is saying. He is saying that sending the national guard to assist the border guard will be expensive, which it will.

And you from the far right don´t seem to realize that building walls/constant and strong border patrol is EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE. Even in the short term, not to mention the long run loss and piling up of costs.

[Chernoslavia]

That's not how to request asylum. And no I'm not saying we should shoot them.

You have to be on US territory to start the process to to get asylum.

They can go to a US embassy for that.

[The South Falls]

Then why are at least 50% of all people on a construction site immigrants?

Or also why is germanies debt falling if we western people are oh so hard working and efficient?

Please explain.

To imply that the cause for Germany's debt decreasing is immigrants is absurd. Look at Italy, Greece, Spain, France, or nearly any other European country. Why do we not see this same decrease? Do you think that perhaps there are other things impacting Germany's debt?

It still shows that immigrants don't have all that much effect on debt.

[Neutraligon]

You seem to be misunderstanding what he is saying. He is saying that sending the national guard to assist the border guard will be expensive, which it will.

And you from the far right don´t seem to realize that building walls/constant and strong border patrol is EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE. Even in the short term, not to mention the long run loss and piling up of costs.

...where did anyone say anything about walls???

[Neutraligon]

You have to be on US territory to start the process to to get asylum.

They can go to a US embassy for that.

Hmm, how many people are in that group again. I doubt the embassy could take all that many people.

[Renolia]

You seem to be misunderstanding what he is saying. He is saying that sending the national guard to assist the border guard will be expensive, which it will.

And you from the far right don´t seem to realize that building walls/constant and strong border patrol is EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE. Even in the short term, not to mention the long run loss and piling up of costs.

OOF you just called me a far righter. That is AMAZING! Shall I start calling you a commie?

[Harelia]

Where are all these jobs that American's turn their nose up at with such intense disdain, I wonder? Sounds like it's somewhere in Makebelieve, Oklahoma.

To assume there are jobs American's wouldn't do is just ridiculous and nonsensical. I know several people that would give their own arms to be able to work a field.

I feel like you're just trying to play at satire though with following up "Disinformation is killing USA" with actual disinformation.

Mainly in agriculture, although they also are a main part of the workforce in a few other areas.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2 ... feff27492a

How much you wanna bet those farms don't exactly advertise their employment opportunities to the American public?

Also, prisoners doing some good honest labor? Hell yea!

I mean hell, I'd be more than happy to get down in the dirt and work the fields, considering that's how I grew up. But giving inmates a means to contribute back is always a plus.

[Renolia]

To imply that the cause for Germany's debt decreasing is immigrants is absurd. Look at Italy, Greece, Spain, France, or nearly any other European country. Why do we not see this same decrease? Do you think that perhaps there are other things impacting Germany's debt?

It still shows that immigrants don't have all that much effect on debt.

My point. He seems to be implying that immigrants are the reason Germany's debt is decreasing. Forgive me if I wasn't clear in my initial post.

[Chernoslavia]

And you from the far right don´t seem to realize that building walls/constant and strong border patrol is EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE. Even in the short term, not to mention the long run loss and piling up of costs.

OOF you just called me a far righter. That is AMAZING! Shall I start calling you a commie?

That would be accurate.

[Harelia]

Where are all these jobs that American's turn their nose up at with such intense disdain, I wonder? Sounds like it's somewhere in Makebelieve, Oklahoma.

To assume there are jobs American's wouldn't do is just ridiculous and nonsensical. I know several people that would give their own arms to be able to work a field.

I feel like you're just trying to play at satire though with following up "Disinformation is killing USA" with actual disinformation.

I think it is perfectly reasonable to say that it's okay for people to come to do jobs that Americans won't do. Like voting Democrat.

*WHEEZE*

I like you.

[Azurius]

Then why are at least 50% of all people on a construction site immigrants?

Or also why is germanies debt falling if we western people are oh so hard working and efficient?

Please explain.

To imply that the cause for Germany's debt decreasing is immigrants is absurd. Look at Italy, Greece, Spain, France, or nearly any other European country. Why do we not see this same decrease? Do you think that perhaps there are other things impacting Germany's debt?

1: Lmao these countries only took in a fraction of those Germany did xD

2: Actually their economies are doing better since if you paid attention to the news, with the exception of Greece that has been fucking for over a decade now.

3: What´s the reason then? Our policies 2015 are literaly the same neo-liberal policies as since 2003 already. Our debt has been increasing for over 30 fucking years and suddenly when we accept a huge wave of immigrants in 2015 for the first time in more then half a century our debt falls like no tommorrow suddenly?

Yeah, sure, just a coincidence xD It´s not just that our debt is falling but the rate at which it is falling is actualy a small miracle in itself.

Anyway hey anyone with Honduran or Guetemalan families: Spread the word to go to Germany if you can afford... Yeah pretty racist at times etc... But seriously? You´re better off here then there lmao. And for us your workforce is better off here too, win-win

[Azurius]

It still shows that immigrants don't have all that much effect on debt.

My point. He seems to be implying that immigrants are the reason Germany's debt is decreasing. Forgive me if I wasn't clear in my initial post.

1: You still can´t argue against it.

2: You imply that immigrants ruin economy and increase costs, when actual reality and numbers in Europe show you the exact opposite. But nice try to twist around your own backing into a corner.