Right Wing Discussion Thread XIV: Join the Friendkorps

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Any sort of Right-Wing action will incur the wrath of the global Leftist establishment. Bolsonaro should pursue his agenda aggressively and quickly or else he'll be bogged down in either bureaucratic red-tape or one of those completely spontaneous "color revolutions."

I mean, there's being "right wing" and then there's essentially being a pseudo-fascist who's vocally advocating for the death of his rivals.

I don't think a Phillipines 2.0 is a great thing.

Yeah, I don't think needlessly calling for violent action against the LGBT community, who have done nothing wrong, was fucking necessary.

[Regal Georgia]

Any sort of Right-Wing action will incur the wrath of the global Leftist establishment. Bolsonaro should pursue his agenda aggressively and quickly or else he'll be bogged down in either bureaucratic red-tape or one of those completely spontaneous "color revolutions."

I mean, there's being "right wing" and then there's essentially being a pseudo-fascist who's vocally advocating for the death of his rivals.

I don't think a Phillipines 2.0 is a great thing.

The Phillipines had problems way before Duterte. While we in the West can sit in relative comfort and view these things from the air, being on the ground is a different matter. Duterte has popular support because the common, non-hyphenated Filipinos were tired of living in fear and being exploited by drug cartels. Their lives have improved as a result of Duterte.

[Nea Byzantia]

I mean, there's being "right wing" and then there's essentially being a pseudo-fascist who's vocally advocating for the death of his rivals.

I don't think a Phillipines 2.0 is a great thing.

The Phillipines had problems way before Duterte. While we in the West can sit in relative comfort and view these things from the air, being on the ground is a different matter. Duterte has popular support because the common, non-hyphenated Filipinos were tired of living in fear and being exploited by drug cartels. Their lives have improved as a result of Duterte.

You could say the same about many other authoritarian regimes in many other countries.

[Novus America]

I mean, there's being "right wing" and then there's essentially being a pseudo-fascist who's vocally advocating for the death of his rivals.

I don't think a Phillipines 2.0 is a great thing.

The Phillipines had problems way before Duterte. While we in the West can sit in relative comfort and view these things from the air, being on the ground is a different matter. Duterte has popular support because the common, non-hyphenated Filipinos were tired of living in fear and being exploited by drug cartels. Their lives have improved as a result of Duterte.

Have they? Duterte will not touch the upper level cartel bosses, and especially not the Chinese suppliers.
His administration has proven to be just as (or more) corrupt as prior ones.
It is all show. It has resulted in a large number of low level drug users, dealers and a lot of innocent people dying.

It has not stopped the drug cartels.

They may feel safer, but they are in fact less safe.

I am all for executing drug cartel leaders, but chaos and vigilante terror is the exact OPPOSITE of the rule of law.

What they need is something like Singapore, at least for upper level cartel members.

Upper level cartel members need to be treated without mercy, but with the rule of law, and a fair trial.

Killing low level people and innocents without trial is not going to fix the problem.

Duterte is popular, despite the fact he has not lived up to any of his promises.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/panosmourd ... f2e1f13dfc

Unfortunately his popularity is not supported by actual changes or any real results.

Obviously the Philippines needs improved security, the rule of law and less corruption.

But Duterte is making the Philippines more like Pakistan than Singapore. He is actually undermining what he claims to be upholding.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I mean, there's being "right wing" and then there's essentially being a pseudo-fascist who's vocally advocating for the death of his rivals.

I don't think a Phillipines 2.0 is a great thing.

The Phillipines had problems way before Duterte. While we in the West can sit in relative comfort and view these things from the air, being on the ground is a different matter. Duterte has popular support because the common, non-hyphenated Filipinos were tired of living in fear and being exploited by drug cartels. Their lives have improved as a result of Duterte.

"Non-hyphonated Filipino"? What's that supposed to mean? I'm pretty sure they'd feel just as unsafe as hyphonated Filipinos.

[Salus Maior]

I mean, there's being "right wing" and then there's essentially being a pseudo-fascist who's vocally advocating for the death of his rivals.

I don't think a Phillipines 2.0 is a great thing.

The Phillipines had problems way before Duterte. While we in the West can sit in relative comfort and view these things from the air, being on the ground is a different matter. Duterte has popular support because the common, non-hyphenated Filipinos were tired of living in fear and being exploited by drug cartels. Their lives have improved as a result of Duterte.

Unless they're the bishops or literally anyone who criticizes what he does, then he advocates that they literally be murdered.

[Northern Davincia]

The Phillipines had problems way before Duterte. While we in the West can sit in relative comfort and view these things from the air, being on the ground is a different matter. Duterte has popular support because the common, non-hyphenated Filipinos were tired of living in fear and being exploited by drug cartels. Their lives have improved as a result of Duterte.

Unless they're the bishops or literally anyone who criticizes what he does, then he advocates that they literally be murdered.

So far the best thing Duterte has done is keep the commies at bay.

[Torrocca]

Unless they're the bishops or literally anyone who criticizes what he does, then he advocates that they literally be murdered.

So far the best thing Duterte has done is keep the commies at bay.

Imagine being so petrified of even Anarchists that you'd prefer a sadist authoritarian who openly promotes mob violence.

[Northern Davincia]

So far the best thing Duterte has done is keep the commies at bay.

Imagine being so petrified of even Anarchists that you'd prefer a sadist authoritarian who openly promotes mob violence.

>mob violence
>anarchism

These things go hand-in-hand.

[Salus Maior]

Unless they're the bishops or literally anyone who criticizes what he does, then he advocates that they literally be murdered.

So far the best thing Duterte has done is keep the commies at bay.

You can do that without being a literal fascist.

[Northern Davincia]

So far the best thing Duterte has done is keep the commies at bay.

You can do that without being a literal fascist.

I'm not disagreeing with that.

[Salus Maior]

I mean, there's being "right wing" and then there's essentially being a pseudo-fascist who's vocally advocating for the death of his rivals.

I don't think a Phillipines 2.0 is a great thing.

Yeah, I don't think needlessly calling for violent action against the LGBT community, who have done nothing wrong, was fucking necessary.

Yes, that's completely unnecessary.

[Torrocca]

Imagine being so petrified of even Anarchists that you'd prefer a sadist authoritarian who openly promotes mob violence.

>mob violence
>anarchism

These things go hand-in-hand.

>Implying that anything related to the mob violence of the Philippines that's been spurred on by Duterte is Anarchistic in nature

Top fuckin' kek

[Northern Davincia]

>mob violence
>anarchism

These things go hand-in-hand.

>Implying that anything related to the mob violence of the Philippines that's been spurred on by Duterte is Anarchistic in nature

Top fuckin' kek

Communist insurgency in the Philippines predates Duterte's authority. Marxist-Leninists outnumber any group who you take a liking to.

[The South Falls]

>mob violence
>anarchism

These things go hand-in-hand.

>Implying that anything related to the mob violence of the Philippines that's been spurred on by Duterte is Anarchistic in nature

Top fuckin' kek

It's not entirely the fault of the state, that must be recognized.

[Torrocca]

>Implying that anything related to the mob violence of the Philippines that's been spurred on by Duterte is Anarchistic in nature

Top fuckin' kek

Communist insurgency in the Philippines predates Duterte's authority. Marxist-Leninists outnumber any group who you take a liking to.

Which is wholly unrelated to the point at hand that Duterte's been instigating mass-murder through mob violence.

>Implying that anything related to the mob violence of the Philippines that's been spurred on by Duterte is Anarchistic in nature

Top fuckin' kek

It's not entirely the fault of the state, that must be recognized.

Yeah, it's also the fault of those who are buying into his bullshit and carrying out the exact mob justice that he's instigating.

[Northern Davincia]

Communist insurgency in the Philippines predates Duterte's authority. Marxist-Leninists outnumber any group who you take a liking to.

Which is wholly unrelated to the point at hand that Duterte's been instigating mass-murder through mob violence.

Fighting fire with fire is always a strange tactic.

[Torrocca]

Which is wholly unrelated to the point at hand that Duterte's been instigating mass-murder through mob violence.

Fighting fire with fire is always a strange tactic.

As said by someone who doesn't understand the legitimacy of scorched earth tactics :^3

[Kavagrad]

>Implying that anything related to the mob violence of the Philippines that's been spurred on by Duterte is Anarchistic in nature

Top fuckin' kek

Communist insurgency in the Philippines predates Duterte's authority. Marxist-Leninists outnumber any group who you take a liking to.

>Anarchism
>Marxist-Leninists

Pick one.

[Darussalam]

So pretty much Brazil has elected a right wing president for the first time. Do you think it's going to work for them?

Whether or not it will "work" remains to be seen. But whether or not it's going to be a violent and dangerous time in Brazil is likely.

Brazil has always been violent and dangerous. Bolsonaro promised to amend this by expanding the scope of state violence, which is theoretically good in a country plagued by violent crime.

[Diopolis]

According to that theory the enlightenment should have started in Italy and later spread to Spain and Germany, while France gets it from England.
Oh, wait...

Exactly!

Granted in Renaissance Italy, the movement was called Humanism; but at the end of the day, same thing, no?

Not really, no.

[Diopolis]

The Phillipines had problems way before Duterte. While we in the West can sit in relative comfort and view these things from the air, being on the ground is a different matter. Duterte has popular support because the common, non-hyphenated Filipinos were tired of living in fear and being exploited by drug cartels. Their lives have improved as a result of Duterte.

You could say the same about many other authoritarian regimes in many other countries.

Exactly. Duterte isn't that different from say, Pinochet, except for his more over-the-top rhetoric.

[Northern Davincia]

Communist insurgency in the Philippines predates Duterte's authority. Marxist-Leninists outnumber any group who you take a liking to.

>Anarchism
>Marxist-Leninists

Pick one.

Which do you think has more influence in the Philippines?

[Nea Byzantia]

Exactly!

Granted in Renaissance Italy, the movement was called Humanism; but at the end of the day, same thing, no?

Not really, no.

Ok...but would you say the two are linked at least; Renaissance Humanism and the Enlightenment?

[Confederate States of German America]

Fighting fire with fire is always a strange tactic.

As said by someone who doesn't understand the legitimacy of scorched earth tactics :^3

I too remember the good ole days of 1941-1945.