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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:42 pm

Baltenstein wrote:The fact that the French have named themselves after a Germanic tribe (you'd think that if the frogs were soooo proud about their nation they would pick a native name) make their silly antics in regards to the English language all the more laughable.


>Germania was a LATIN term

ok barbarian

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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:43 pm

Baltenstein wrote:The fact that the French have named themselves after a Germanic tribe (you'd think that if the frogs were soooo proud about their nation they would pick a native name) make their silly antics in regards to the English language all the more laughable.


Well, they're kind of Latinized Germanics, those Franks.
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:44 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Dude.

ARABIC

Arabic writing is noteworthy for how awful it is, much like its overuse of vowels.


It also sounds harsh and husky.
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:44 pm

What's with all the france-hate in this thread?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:45 pm

Quebec should secede and join the US, as nature intended.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:45 pm

The South Falls wrote:What's with all the france-hate in this thread?


Virgin Germanic vs. Chad Latin, my friend!

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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:46 pm

The South Falls wrote:What's with all the france-hate in this thread?


It's because we're dominated by the eternal Anglo here.
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:46 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:The fact that the French have named themselves after a Germanic tribe (you'd think that if the frogs were soooo proud about their nation they would pick a native name) make their silly antics in regards to the English language all the more laughable.


>Germania was a LATIN term

ok barbarian


Yeah, but it was used to describe people from, well, Germany, which is where the Franks were originally from.

Interestingly, France in the Greek language is known as "Gallia" - from the Gauls. The Greek language holds the Frenchies' heritage in higher esteem than the French themselves do.
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Postby Aellex » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:46 pm

Baltenstein wrote:The fact that the French have named themselves after a Germanic tribe (you'd think that if the frogs were soooo proud about their nation they would pick a native name) make their silly antics in regards to the English language all the more laughable.

That's because we aren't German nor Latin nor Gaul, we're an artificial culture born of itself and don't feel the need to distance or liken ourselves to one in particular.
Funnily enough, it's you boches who went all uppity about it back in the 19th century and went and claimed that the Franks were actually a Gallic tribe that conquered some German land only to return to its native land later. :lol2:
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Postby Novus America » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:48 pm

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Novus America wrote:So you do actually admit the writing and pronunciation are different.

Because we don't write phonetically and neither do English or any language, lol.
Your claiming oversimplification is an admission of guilt.

Saying that English is just French spoken with a bad accent is also an oversimplification tho technically just as true. :^)
Ha, anyways you guys hate our language so much you listen to even our bad music all the time.

That's just capitalism, my dear. We listen to whatever is pushed forward but most of it is still Francophone, if you want to make sure of that, you can just turn on your radio and listen to what's airing on NRJ. ;)

He. I do not care how much you hate. So long as you fear. :twisted: I know people claim to hate English.
But I do not care. It is conquering anyways.
You hate only because you fear, and mourn the loss of your language’s dominance.

English has surpassed France as the language of international trade, science and communications.
So why should we need be jealous?
We won. Our language might also be an ugly mess, but we still beat your ugly mess like a drum.

Enjoy it while it last, the Han is around the corner and you're likely to suffer the same fate you're gloating of right now. :^)
As for us, we're doing just fine, thanks you very much. The time of Flamboyant Imperialism has passed but we've secured our gains and will hold on to them and see them fructify, our language and culture will continue to grow much to your anal pain as you've been so exemplarily showing. :lol2:
And if you are denying Parisian cultural imperialism and political oppression you might need to review some French history, just saying. :)

I'm not really seeing how it somehow ties to your inane rant, tho, that's all.


Sure you can say English is just bad French combined with a bunch of other stuff...
Because IT IS! :lol:
Nobody is denying that. :)

Anyways no need to fear the Han, the Chinese are learning English faster than anyone.
Sure English will evolve to suck Chinese vocabulary into ours, but so what?

Han is not well suited for many modern usages anyways, so even the Chinese increasingly use English.

It is funny you think you can upset me by calling out English for being a bastardized mess...
I wholely embrace it is a bastardized mess.
Now if you only admit French is also...

See I embrace the flaws of English, I do not deny or defend them.

The French are in denial, I am not.

And you know Parisian cultural imperialism and oppression played a role in the evolution of language and France I am sure.

Though I am mostly just being sophist here anyways.
I actually do not really care much at all.

Just find it fun to argue about sometimes.
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Postby Aellex » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:48 pm

Frievolk wrote:
Aellex wrote:Lmao, because providing schooling for all children in the official language of the country is tots the same thing as murdering 6 millions jews.
Do you even listen to yourself when you're speaking?

In the context of destroying practice of native cultures and languages, yes. Yes it is. Hence cultural genocide.

Free schooling is now the same thing as mass murder, you heard it here folks. :roll:
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:48 pm

Aellex wrote:
Funnily enough, it's you boches who went all uppity about it back in the 19th century and went and claimed that the Franks were actually a Gallic tribe that conquered some German land only to return to its native land later. :lol2:


....Wait, what?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:48 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:Quebec should secede and join the US, as nature intended.


I unironically believe in the concept of a North American Union (USA, Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean), but let's overlook that for a second...

Quebec would only join the US if the latter had strong guarantees that the French-Canadian language and culture would be preserved.

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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:48 pm

Aellex wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:The fact that the French have named themselves after a Germanic tribe (you'd think that if the frogs were soooo proud about their nation they would pick a native name) make their silly antics in regards to the English language all the more laughable.

That's because we aren't German nor Latin nor Gaul, we're an artificial culture born of itself and don't feel the need to distance or liken ourselves to one in particular.
Funnily enough, it's you boches who went all uppity about it back in the 19th century and went and claimed that the Franks were actually a Gallic tribe that conquered some German land only to return to its native land later. :lol2:


German anti-Frankism was religiously, rather than ethnically, motivated. Charlemagne was portrayed in a bad light because he was Catholic, unlike the Prussians.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:49 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
>Germania was a LATIN term

ok barbarian


Yeah, but it was used to describe people from, well, Germany, which is where the Franks were originally from.

Interestingly, France in the Greek language is known as "Gallia" - from the Gauls. The Greek language holds the Frenchies' heritage in higher esteem than the French themselves do.


There's practically no connection between the Gaul that Caesar conquered and the France of today, aside from the geography of it all.
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:50 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Aellex wrote:
Funnily enough, it's you boches who went all uppity about it back in the 19th century and went and claimed that the Franks were actually a Gallic tribe that conquered some German land only to return to its native land later. :lol2:


....Wait, what?


He's kinda right, Charlemagne had a bad rep in late 19th century Imperial Germany.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:50 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Quebec should secede and join the US, as nature intended.


I unironically believe in the concept of a North American Union (USA, Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean), but let's overlook that for a second...

Quebec would only join the US if the latter had strong guarantees that the French-Canadian language and culture would be preserved.


The US and, specifically, the state of Louisiana is perfectly fine with local folk trying to revive their creole language and culture, so they'll be fine.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:51 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Quebec should secede and join the US, as nature intended.


I unironically believe in the concept of a North American Union (USA, Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean), but let's overlook that for a second...

Quebec would only join the US if the latter had strong guarantees that the French-Canadian language and culture would be preserved.

I like the idea of a continental union, so long as it was dominated by the US and governed from Washington.
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Postby Aellex » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:51 pm

Salus Maior wrote:....Wait, what?

Our shared origins, for all tenuous they were, with the Germans quite inconvenienced them when they went full autismo racialist uber nationalism in the 19th century so they went and devised that perfect explanation.
Gotta hand it to them, that's quite the fun creation myth for all bullshit it is.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:52 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
German anti-Frankism was religiously, rather than ethnically, motivated. Charlemagne was portrayed in a bad light because he was Catholic, unlike the Prussians.


...As was everyone in Western Christendom at the time.

And besides, Charlemagne and his sons were as much responsible for the emergence of Germany as he was for France.
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Postby Dresderstan » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 pm

Quebec would just be a French version of New England, we already have one.

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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 pm

Aellex wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:....Wait, what?

Our shared origins, for all tenuous they were, with the Germans quite inconvenienced them when they went full autismo racialist uber nationalism in the 19th century so they went and devised that perfect explanation.
Gotta hand it to them, that's quite the fun creation myth for all bullshit it is.


So, basically the Nazis made up that the French were Gauls so they could justify persecuting them?
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Postby Frievolk » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Aellex wrote:Our shared origins, for all tenuous they were, with the Germans quite inconvenienced them when they went full autismo racialist uber nationalism in the 19th century so they went and devised that perfect explanation.
Gotta hand it to them, that's quite the fun creation myth for all bullshit it is.


So, basically the Nazis made up that the French were Gauls so they could justify persecuting them?

Roughly a century before that.
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Postby Novus America » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Quebec should secede and join the US, as nature intended.


I unironically believe in the concept of a North American Union (USA, Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean), but let's overlook that for a second...

Quebec would only join the US if the latter had strong guarantees that the French-Canadian language and culture would be preserved.


Which it certainly could be. The US does not have a hard on for crushing other languages inside the US. We are not France. :lol:

Seriously though, it is not a big deal. An improved US covering all of North America is my goal as well. Obviously it would have to respect French and Spanish as languages.

US states can keep distinctive languages and cultures.
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 pm

Aellex wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:....Wait, what?

Our shared origins, for all tenuous they were, with the Germans quite inconvenienced them when they went full autismo racialist uber nationalism in the 19th century so they went and devised that perfect explanation.
Gotta hand it to them, that's quite the fun creation myth for all bullshit it is.


Hm, I wonder who the silly bastard was who introduced racialism into mainstream political thinking in the first place?
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