Right Wing Discussion Thread XIV: Join the Friendkorps

[Novus America]

French is abhorrent in sound and spelling.

That's German.

Besides for all the French crap about keeping it pure, it is just poorly pronounced Latin

That's Italian.

with bad grammar and spelling.

And that one is actually just English. :^)

French is little more than Italian with incomprehensible pronunciation.

English is a bastardized North German/Latin/French/others combo, true.
But we do not pretend it is something else.
We do not try to protect the “purity” of the English language because we know that is silly.

My problem is no with French per se, although why have so many extraneous letters you do not prounouce?

My problem is when some French try to pretend it is something it is not.

[Frievolk]

That's German.


That's Italian.


And that one is actually just English. :^)

French is little more than Italian with incomprehensible pronunciation.

English is a bastardized North German/Latin/French/others combo, true.
But we do not pretend it is something else.
We do not try to protect the “purity” of the English language because we know that is silly.

My problem is no with French per se, although why have so many extraneous letters you do not prounouce?

My problem is when some French try to pretend it is something it is not.

Believe it or not, it's one of those exceptional times it's because they intentionally want to oppress other people, i.e. force other nationalities living in places they unilaterally declared as "Natural Borders of France" to lose their own identity. It's... surprisingly successful, because everyone's so used to the French being French nobody really reacts to it now. (And tbf when it started they weren't they only ones to do cultural genocide like that.)

[Northern Davincia]

French is abhorrent in sound and spelling.

That's German.

The eternal Frenchman strikes again. A man speaking German is masculine and impressive, a woman speaking German strikes fear.

[Aellex]

French is little more than Italian with incomprehensible pronunciation.

"[X] romance language is little more than [Y] romance language with incomprehensible pronunciation! "
You're wrong tho.

English is a bastardized North German/Latin/French/others combo, true.
But we do not pretend it is something else.
We do not try to protect the “purity” of the English language because we know that is silly.

No, because once the bun is already in the oven, it's too late to put on the belt. :^)

My problem is no with French per se, although why have so many extraneous letters you do not prounouce?

Like what? "s" or "x" at the end of words? They're the mark of plural. Could you give actual exemple rather than loudly ranting at nothing in particular?

My problem is when some French try to pretend it is something it is not.

In other words you just jelly. :'D

[Novus America]

French is little more than Italian with incomprehensible pronunciation.

"[X] romance language is little more than [Y] romance language with incomprehensible pronunciation! "
You're wrong tho.

English is a bastardized North German/Latin/French/others combo, true.
But we do not pretend it is something else.
We do not try to protect the “purity” of the English language because we know that is silly.

No, because once the bun is already in the oven, it's too late to put on the belt. :^)

My problem is no with French per se, although why have so many extraneous letters you do not prounouce?

Like what? "s" or "x" at the end of words? They're the mark of plural. Could you give actual exemple rather than loudly ranting at nothing in particular?

My problem is when some French try to pretend it is something it is not.

In other words you just jelly. :'D

Why have a plural mark you do not prounounce?

No, hardly. I do not think liguistic purity is actually meaningful, when it is just a combination of pretentiousness and an the case of France, Parisian cultural imperialism.

I do not support using a pretentiousness to crush linguistic diversity and local dialects and accents.

We English speakers need not overcompensate. We have the biggest vocabulary...
You are just jealous of our massive, always growing vocabulary.

[Aellex]

The eternal Frenchman strikes again. A man speaking German is masculine and impressive, a woman speaking German strikes fear.

To quote Charles Quint, "One speaks Latin to God, French to men, Italian to women and German to horses."
Ugliness and roughness is neither masculine nor impressive except to those that feel that they need to compensate for something. :^)

[Diopolis]

The vowels are more of an issue with spoken Arabic.

Actually it's not because you know what someone is saying. When writing it doesn't use vowels so you have to guess what someone's saying.

Hebrew writing is an eyesore for me, but it's marginally better than chicken scratch.

>Calling Arabic chicken scratch
Boy you waiting for somethin lol.

What makes Latin so good?

Precise, easy to read and write, with a complex grammar that cultivates and develops the intellect and a pleasing sound.

[Aellex]

Believe it or not, it's one of those exceptional times it's because they intentionally want to oppress other people, i.e. force other nationalities living in places they unilaterally declared as "Natural Borders of France" to lose their own identity. It's... surprisingly successful, because everyone's so used to the French being French nobody really reacts to it now. (And tbf when it started they weren't they only ones to do cultural genocide like that.)

Why have a plural mark you do not prounounce?

It's pronounced tho, you make the "liaison" and add a "z" sound when followed by a vowel.
Not to mention that writing is important.

No, hardly. I do not think liguistic purity is actually meaningful, when it is just a combination of pretentiousness and an the case of France cultural imperialism.

I do not support using a pretentiousness to crush linguistic diversity and local dialects and accents.

Too bad it rustle your jimmies but we're a Nation-State based not on an ethnicity but a culture and we're thus going to feel that this culture and its language are important and worth protecting when they're literally the pillar our country is built on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Frievolk]

Believe it or not, it's one of those exceptional times it's because they intentionally want to oppress other people, i.e. force other nationalities living in places they unilaterally declared as "Natural Borders of France" to lose their own identity. It's... surprisingly successful, because everyone's so used to the French being French nobody really reacts to it now. (And tbf when it started they weren't they only ones to do cultural genocide like that.)

posting a meme about genocide doesn't make it any less of a genocide.

[Diopolis]

The eternal Frenchman strikes again. A man speaking German is masculine and impressive, a woman speaking German strikes fear.

To quote Charles Quint, "One speaks Latin to God, French to men, Italian to women and German to horses."
Ugliness and roughness is neither masculine nor impressive except to those that feel that they need to compensate for something. :^)

I usually speak Latin to God, Spanish to men and English to women, and Esperanto or French to dogs and horses.

[Novus America]

Believe it or not, it's one of those exceptional times it's because they intentionally want to oppress other people, i.e. force other nationalities living in places they unilaterally declared as "Natural Borders of France" to lose their own identity. It's... surprisingly successful, because everyone's so used to the French being French nobody really reacts to it now. (And tbf when it started they weren't they only ones to do cultural genocide like that.)

Why have a plural mark you do not prounounce?

It's pronounced tho, you make the "liaison" and add a "z" sound when followed by a vowel.
Not to mention that writing is important.

No, hardly. I do not think liguistic purity is actually meaningful, when it is just a combination of pretentiousness and an the case of France cultural imperialism.

I do not support using a pretentiousness to crush linguistic diversity and local dialects and accents.

Too bad it rustle your jimmies but we're a Nation-State based not on an ethnicity but a culture and we're thus going to feel that this culture and its language are important and worth protecting when they're literally the pillar our country is built on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So you admit your writing and pronunciation are inconsistent.
I agree written and spoken French are basically two different languages.
I can read some French, but cannot make out the incomprehensible slur used to pronounce it.

The US is also a Nation State built not on ethnicity.
But we are self confident enough in our nation to not freak out when people in Noo Yawk City prounounce something different than someone in Washington DC.

What makes Parisian alone the only source of French culture? I guess everyone outside the city limits are just ignorant backwards barbarians needing to be crushed then?
Though basically that has been how France has believed and operated the past 500 years or so.

Overcompensating for lack of genuine self esteem...

[The Eternal Aulus]

Because sometimes the essence of words become lost in translation. This is especially the case in most Semitic languages which have words and/or wordplay which may loose its meaning when translated. I think staying close to the ''source language'', or original language as you will, is very important especially for religions. It's also why Arabic is considered a subject of theology in the classical Islamic educational curriculum.

That's why the Roman Catholic Church kept its mass in Latin until the Second Vatican Council. And they still do in Tridentine mass.

But even latin mass only Catholics don't walk around throwing random chunks of latin at people.

When I go to a Latin mass that does happen sometimes though. It's not uncommon.

[Diopolis]

But even latin mass only Catholics don't walk around throwing random chunks of latin at people.

When I go to a Latin mass that does happen sometimes though. It's not uncommon.

I've seen it happen before, but usually either as an in joke or by complete weirdos. It's certainly not a normal thing unless both parties actually speak latin- and that's not very common.

[The Eternal Aulus]

When I go to a Latin mass that does happen sometimes though. It's not uncommon.

I've seen it happen before, but usually either as an in joke or by complete weirdos. It's certainly not a normal thing unless both parties actually speak latin- and that's not very common.

The priest spoke in Latin. Ie the mass itself was in Latin.

Then again, it was a tridentine mass.

[Diopolis]

I've seen it happen before, but usually either as an in joke or by complete weirdos. It's certainly not a normal thing unless both parties actually speak latin- and that's not very common.

The priest spoke in Latin. Ie the mass itself was in Latin.

Then again, it was a tridentine mass.

Well, duh, but I've never seen any latin that was random.

[Aellex]

So you admit your writing and pronunciation are inconsistent.

Never said such a thing, tho. Don't really see how you can infer that from what qi said neither.

I agree written and spoken French are basically two different languages.

Gross oversimplification tho formal written French do use tense that sound weird when used when speaking orally.

I can read some French, but cannot make out the incomprehensible slur used to pronounce it.

Sounds like the problem comes from you because French being quite flat is the easiest Latin language to pronounce.

The US is also a Nation State built not on ethnicity.

lmao

But we are self confident enough in our nation to not freak out when people in Noo Yawk City prounounce something different than someone in Washington DC.

We probably have more accents than you do from the one "Chantant du Midi" passing by my beloved Lyonnais one and the Picard and Breton one not to mention the Aquitain one or even with the Maghrébin or Jewish one and no one have a problem with any of them.
It seems what you're ranting about only exist in your head again. : /

What makes Parisian alone the only source of French culture? I guess everyone outside the city limits are just ignorant backwards barbarians needing to be crushed then?
Though basically that has been how France has believed and operated the past 500 years or so.

And more angry waving of your fist at the sky for something that only exist within your head.
I'm not sure what to say at that point because you seem so distached from the subject you're bitching about I'm not even sure that you yourself know what you're actually angry at. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Overcompensating for lack of genuine self esteem...

Say he who get an existential crisis at people not liking his language.

[The Eternal Aulus]

The priest spoke in Latin. Ie the mass itself was in Latin.

Then again, it was a tridentine mass.

Well, duh, but I've never seen any latin that was random.

I do find it disappointing honestly. I'd love to see the faces of post-Vatican II boomers being confused when the priest does the mass in Latin.

[Aellex]

posting a meme about genocide doesn't make it any less of a genocide.

TIL that mandatory, free education is genocide.
Welp, you got me I suppose.

[Novus America]

So you admit your writing and pronunciation are inconsistent.

Never said such a thing, tho. Don't really see how you can infer that from what qi said neither.

I agree written and spoken French are basically two different languages.

Gross oversimplification tho formal written French do use tense that sound weird when used when speaking orally.

I can read some French, but cannot make out the incomprehensible slur used to pronounce it.

Sounds like the problem comes from you because French being quite flat is the easiest Latin language to pronounce.

The US is also a Nation State built not on ethnicity.

lmao

But we are self confident enough in our nation to not freak out when people in Noo Yawk City prounounce something different than someone in Washington DC.

We probably have more accents than you do from the one "Chantant du Midi" passing by my beloved Lyonnais one and the Picard and Breton one not to mention the Aquitain one or even with the Maghrébin or Jewish one and no one have a problem with any of them.
It seems what you're ranting about only exist in your head again. : /

What makes Parisian alone the only source of French culture? I guess everyone outside the city limits are just ignorant backwards barbarians needing to be crushed then?
Though basically that has been how France has believed and operated the past 500 years or so.

And more angry waving of your fist at the sky for something that only exist within your head.
I'm not sure what to say at that point because you seem so distached from the subject you're bitching about I'm not even sure that you yourself know what you're actually angry at. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Overcompensating for lack of genuine self esteem...

Say he who get an existential crisis at people not liking his language.

So you do actually admit the writing and pronunciation are different.
Your claiming oversimplification is an admission of guilt.

Ha, anyways you guys hate our language so much you listen to even our bad music all the time.

He. I do not care how much you hate. So long as you fear. I know people claim to hate English.
But I do not care. It is conquering anyways.
You hate only because you fear, and mourn the loss of your language’s dominance.

English has surpassed France as the language of international trade, science and communications.
So why should we need be jealous?
We won. Our language might also be an ugly mess, but we still beat your ugly mess like a drum.

And if you are denying Parisian cultural imperialism and political oppression you might need to review some French history, just saying.

[Canadensia]

posting a meme about genocide doesn't make it any less of a genocide.

Calling the Vergonha a genocide is a stretch that renders the term meaningless.

It was cultural ethnicide, at most. And one which much of Western civilization should have emulated. Whereas much of the Western world has been plagued with separatism and internal disunity since the 20th century, the French nation-state has largely remained united. And while France undeniably has its glaring internal problems (the yellow vest movement being an obvious indication of just how disconnected its elites are from the bulk of the French population), it has consistently maintained national cultural unity at home, to the point where separatism is practically a non-issue, with no serious internal separatist movement threatening the integrity of the French state.

Compare this state of affairs with a country like the UK, which lost the bulk of Ireland in the 1920's (and had to fight a decades-long guerrilla war to keep what little land it held onto in Ulster) and is currently in the process of losing Scotland to a separatist party. Or Spain, which has divided itself into "autonomous communities", yet still finds itself plagued by separatism in the Basque country and Catalonia. Hell, even my own country of Canada is a good example, considering how we've pretty much given up on national unity in favour of multiculturalism and bribing Quebec not to separate.

Like it or not, cultural unity is absolutely crucial to the integrity of a state, and no Western nation does this better than France. They don't care if a few bleeding hearts need to be crushed in order to secure national sovereignty, and have kept their country largely intact because of this.

[Frievolk]

posting a meme about genocide doesn't make it any less of a genocide.

TIL that mandatory, free education is genocide.
Welp, you got me I suppose.

That's as much a mandatory free education for the victimized cultures as the holocaust was a free train ride and you know it.

[Aellex]

So you do actually admit the writing and pronunciation are different.

Because we don't write phonetically and neither do English or any language, lol.

Your claiming oversimplification is an admission of guilt.

Saying that English is just French spoken with a bad accent is also an oversimplification tho technically just as true. :^)

Ha, anyways you guys hate our language so much you listen to even our bad music all the time.

That's just capitalism, my dear. We listen to whatever is pushed forward but most of it is still Francophone, if you want to make sure of that, you can just turn on your radio and listen to what's airing on NRJ.

He. I do not care how much you hate. So long as you fear. I know people claim to hate English.
But I do not care. It is conquering anyways.
You hate only because you fear, and mourn the loss of your language’s dominance.

English has surpassed France as the language of international trade, science and communications.
So why should we need be jealous?
We won. Our language might also be an ugly mess, but we still beat your ugly mess like a drum.

Enjoy it while it last, the Han is around the corner and you're likely to suffer the same fate you're gloating of right now. :^)
As for us, we're doing just fine, thanks you very much. The time of Flamboyant Imperialism has passed but we've secured our gains and will hold on to them and see them fructify, our language and culture will continue to grow much to your anal pain as you've been so exemplarily showing.

And if you are denying Parisian cultural imperialism and political oppression you might need to review some French history, just saying.

I'm not really seeing how it somehow ties to your inane rant, tho, that's all.

[Aellex]

TIL that mandatory, free education is genocide.
Welp, you got me I suppose.

That's as much a mandatory free education for the victimized cultures as the holocaust was a free train ride and you know it.

Lmao, because providing schooling for all children in the official language of the country is tots the same thing as murdering 6 millions jews.
Do you even listen to yourself when you're speaking?

[Frievolk]

That's as much a mandatory free education for the victimized cultures as the holocaust was a free train ride and you know it.

Lmao, because providing schooling for all children in the official language of the country is tots the same thing as murdering 6 millions jews.
Do you even listen to yourself when you're speaking?

In the context of destroying practice of native cultures and languages, yes. Yes it is. Hence cultural genocide.

[Baltenstein]

The fact that the French have named themselves after a Germanic tribe (you'd think that if the frogs were soooo proud about their nation they would pick a native name) make their silly antics in regards to the English language all the more laughable.