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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:05 pm

Joohan wrote:
Kowani wrote:Yeah. The state gives security, and at the cost of some to all rights. Depends on the state.
The State of Nature gives no security and at the possible cost of all rights.


Well, rights can't and don't exist without a state so....

Preposterous. Negative rights exist independently of the state.
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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:24 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Is there prove he was dancing sexily?


Go look at the thread yourself. I don't care to look up any of that garbage again.

I've read most of the pages in that thread and both sides misunderstood what each other was saying. To quote myself:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:As for what happened in that thread, I think there was a bunch of misunderstanding on both sides.
1: Desmond shouldn't be in a bar. He a minor. And even if he was a major he still shouldn't've been in that bar or any bars.
2: I can understand the sentiment of him "stripping", considering he wear skimpy clothing, had a bunch of make-up on, was dancing and had money thrown at him. What I have not found is the claim by certain nations up here that he was dancing in a sexual manner. If he was dancing in a sexual manner it'd be pedophilia and would be more messed up than it is now. But if not, then he's just dancing in women's clothing in a bar in money being thrown at him, which makes this kinda weird. Also, according to wiki, the kid some kind of autism so the parents really shouldn't be pressuring him to do a certain career.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:27 pm

Damn this site is really going to shit.

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Western Vale Confederacy
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:34 pm

Genivaria wrote:Damn this site is really going to shit.


It is not unusual.

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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:34 pm

Genivaria wrote:Damn this site is really going to shit.

*Mod edit* Again, any discussions about Moderation activities and/or procedures are to take place in Moderation. -NERV
Last edited by NERVUN on Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Corralling this.
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:36 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Damn this site is really going to shit.

*Mod edit* Again, any discussions about Moderation activities and/or procedures are to take place in Moderation. -NERV

Also the fact that well known users like UMN and TEM are leaving and others losing their nations so there's that also.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:42 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Luminesa wrote:What’s to do when the mods say they’ll answer your questions...then they take away the evidence you want? “We’ll answer your questions...except we kinda won’t. Oh, and don’t ask or you’ll get banned, and don’t make threads or we’ll lock them!” This is why I mostly stick to RPs these days.

Also the fact that well known users like UMN and TEM are leaving and others losing their nations so there's that also.

We still have time to build a shrine to TEM.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:47 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Also the fact that well known users like UMN and TEM are leaving and others losing their nations so there's that also.

We still have time to build a shrine to TEM.

I motion that TEM and UMN should be named as lost friends at beginning of RWDT.

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Postby Luminesa » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:48 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:We still have time to build a shrine to TEM.

I motion that TEM and UMN should be named as lost friends at beginning of RWDT.

^
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:49 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I motion that TEM and UMN should be named as lost friends at beginning of RWDT.

^

^^
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:50 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:^

^^

^^^ Okay now let's try to re-rail this thread.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:58 pm

Well the last thing we were talking about before Desmond and pedophilia was liberty vs security.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:05 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Well the last thing we were talking about before Desmond and pedophilia was liberty vs security.

Liberty is security. Security without liberty is oppression - you have no security towards those you are not free around - without freedom, you are at their mercy. Liberty without security is anarchism - you have no more freedom than any at the mercy of a ruthless state, as at any moment, one without security can have their liberty taken from them by force.
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Postby Mardla » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:13 pm

I'm leaving as well, as many of you already knew.

This is Parkus, signing off.
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:14 pm

Mardla wrote:I'm leaving as well, as many of you already knew.

This is Parkus, signing off.

You said this before when you had your first nation DEAT'ed months ago, only for you to come back.

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Postby The National Salvation Front for Russia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:14 pm

Mardla wrote:I'm leaving as well, as many of you already knew.

This is Parkus, signing off.

Good luck with your monastic life. Hopefully you enjoy it as well.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:15 pm

Mardla wrote:I'm leaving as well, as many of you already knew.

This is Parkus, signing off.


This is really disappointing. Despite our disagreements, I would be sorry to see you go.

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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:17 pm

Sheesh, all these nations signing off.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:18 pm

Genivaria wrote:Damn this site is really going to shit.


Yeah since 2016 or so it's gotten really bad. I've considered leaving a few times but I stick around cuz there's a few people I like and don't have offsite contact with.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:19 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Damn this site is really going to shit.


Yeah since 2016 or so it's gotten really bad. I've considered leaving a few times but I stick around cuz there's a few people I like and don't have offsite contact with.

You should explore discord. It's really fun.
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Proud Full Member of the Council of Islamic Cooperation!^u^
I'm a (Pan) Islamist ;)
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Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:21 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yeah since 2016 or so it's gotten really bad. I've considered leaving a few times but I stick around cuz there's a few people I like and don't have offsite contact with.

You should explore discord. It's really fun.


Oh I have a discord and interact with a lot of current and former NS members on there, but there's a few people I don't think have one and I'd like to still interact with them.

Plus things like the Paradox Games, Guns and Warhammer threads still give some reason to come back.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:26 pm

Mardla wrote:I'm leaving as well, as many of you already knew.

This is Parkus, signing off.

Farewell, Parkus. Godspeed.
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and the greatest is love."
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:30 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Damn this site is really going to shit.


Yeah since 2016 or so it's gotten really bad. I've considered leaving a few times but I stick around cuz there's a few people I like and don't have offsite contact with.


I'm losing out on all the people I can have fun little spats with since I got bullied (banned unjustly ofc) from the RWDT discord. ;-;
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:32 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Damn this site is really going to shit.


Yeah since 2016 or so it's gotten really bad. I've considered leaving a few times but I stick around cuz there's a few people I like and don't have offsite contact with.


2016 was the year I migrated down from Gameplay to NSG so from my perspective this is a huge jump in quality banter.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:37 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Damn this site is really going to shit.


Yeah since 2016 or so it's gotten really bad. I've considered leaving a few times but I stick around cuz there's a few people I like and don't have offsite contact with.


Fuckin' Trump /s

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