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Salus Maior wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:Not what I meant. I wasn't referring to their overt mannerisms or behavior, I was referring to how the person feels in themselves, rather than how they appear to others.

And people can and have been mistaken about themselves. Let alone a kid.

The New California Republic wrote:

Salus Maior wrote:
And people can and have been mistaken about themselves. Let alone a kid.

Sure they can, I never said anything to make you think that I thought otherwise.

Salus Maior wrote:

Reikoku wrote:As much as I promised myself I wouldn't get involved in this drama, and I'm probably going to get flack, I don't think Iffrean, Grenartia, or CTOAN are pedophile enablers in the slightest, despite the personal and ideological dislike I feel toward them, and it's pretty fucked up to advertise such a claim like that. I know from a long time frienemy status with them that Grenartia is absolutely not that type of person, and I'm honestly disappointed in you Nap. I expected better.

Even if they aren't evil people, they're absolutely misguided and down a wrong path if they're supporting a child doing sexy dances for adults in an adult bar. For any reason.

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:

Salus Maior wrote:
Even if they aren't evil people, they're absolutely misguided and down a wrong path if they're supporting a child doing sexy dances for adults in an adult bar. For any reason.

Is there prove he was dancing sexily?

Salus Maior wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:Sure they can, I never said anything to make you think that I thought otherwise.

Then a kid thinking they're gay is no reason to treat them any differently.

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:

Salus Maior wrote:
Even if they aren't evil people, they're absolutely misguided and down a wrong path if they're supporting a child doing sexy dances for adults in an adult bar. For any reason.

Is there prove he was dancing sexily?

NERVUN wrote:Hakons, *** One day ban for the same ***.

The topic stops here and now.

Thread to remain locked until the hour to get this point across.

Edit: Thread re-opened.

Reminder, harassment of other players, i.e. 'calling out' other players by name and accusing them of actions which could have real world repercussions, is against the rules. If you wish to talk about the story of this boy feel free to do so as long as it does not dip into trolling, but we will not allow this to generate into a thread where other players are called out for being either pedophiles or pedophile apologists.

Salus Maior wrote:

NERVUN wrote:Hakons, *** One day ban for the same ***.

The topic stops here and now.

Thread to remain locked until the hour to get this point across.

Edit: Thread re-opened.

Reminder, harassment of other players, i.e. 'calling out' other players by name and accusing them of actions which could have real world repercussions, is against the rules. If you wish to talk about the story of this boy feel free to do so as long as it does not dip into trolling, but we will not allow this to generate into a thread where other players are called out for being either pedophiles or pedophile apologists.

Hakons didn't call out anyone by name.

And perhaps this thread wouldn't become a thread where we had to call out people for being pedophile apologists if moderation weren't so tolerant of those people.

Tell me, how many people got off the hook while they defended what was happening with that kid? Do you approve of it? Is that acceptable?

Valrifell wrote:

Salus Maior wrote:
Hakons didn't call out anyone by name.

And perhaps this thread wouldn't become a thread where we had to call out people for being pedophile apologists if moderation weren't so tolerant of those people.

Tell me, how many people got off the hook while they defended what was happening with that kid? Do you approve of it? Is that acceptable?

What part of "stop talking about it" are you just not understanding?

Proctopeo wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
What part of "stop talking about it" are you just not understanding?

tbf
when something stupid happens, it's hard to not talk about it

Valrifell wrote:

Proctopeo wrote:tbf
when something stupid happens, it's hard to not talk about it

This is how threads get locked with prejudice, tho.

Dresderstan wrote:Oh no not UMN too.

Valrifell wrote:
What part of "stop talking about it" are you just not understanding?

Salus Maior wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
What part of "stop talking about it" are you just not understanding?

I'm not afraid of the mods.

They did a shitty job of handling this whole situation and now they're just trying to shut people up about it.

But I'm not going to shut up about it, what happened in that thread was fundamentally wrong and now the mods are trying to cover it up rather than solve the issue. At least NERVUN is, anyway.

Salus Maior wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
What part of "stop talking about it" are you just not understanding?

I'm not afraid of the mods.

They did a shitty job of handling this whole situation and now they're just trying to shut people up about it.

But I'm not going to shut up about it, what happened in that thread was fundamentally wrong and now the mods are trying to cover it up with drummed up bans (what was Benuty even banned for? What specific post? And Hakons didn't call out anyone by name) rather than solve the issue. At least NERVUN is, anyway.

NERVUN wrote:

Salus Maior wrote:
I'm not afraid of the mods.

They did a shitty job of handling this whole situation and now they're just trying to shut people up about it.

But I'm not going to shut up about it, what happened in that thread was fundamentally wrong and now the mods are trying to cover it up with drummed up bans (what was Benuty even banned for? What specific post? And Hakons didn't call out anyone by name) rather than solve the issue. At least NERVUN is, anyway.

If you have a problem with my actions, take it up in Moderation. This is not the space for this.

United Muscovite Nations wrote:

NERVUN wrote:If you have a problem with my actions, take it up in Moderation. This is not the space for this.

Maybe they would if you would quit locking the moderation thread

Valrifell wrote:What part of "stop talking about it" are you just not understanding?

NERVUN wrote:If you wish to talk about the story of this boy feel free to do so as long as it does not dip into trolling, but we will not allow this to generate into a thread where other players are called out for being either pedophiles or pedophile apologists.

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Since users are being deleted, I'll take this time to announce that I'm leaving. I've been thinking about doing so for a while for various personal reasons and I've been much less active lately. I've made a lot of good friends on this site, and I'll miss this place a lot. If I've said or done hurtful things to any of you, I deeply apologize, especially to Lady Scylla, who I antagonized horribly in a mental illness episode. Maybe one day I'll come back, and if any of you want to say some kind of special goodbye, I'll stay on for about 15 minutes or so. I'll still be on discord, so you guys who know me there will continue to speak to me there. To all of you, thank you, and congratulations. See you later, Space Cowboys.

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Zex wrote:

Valrifell wrote:What part of "stop talking about it" are you just not understanding?

NERVUN wrote:If you wish to talk about the story of this boy feel free to do so as long as it does not dip into trolling, but we will not allow this to generate into a thread where other players are called out for being either pedophiles or pedophile apologists.

Moderation gave there blessings.

United Muscovite Nations wrote:

NERVUN wrote:If you have a problem with my actions, take it up in Moderation. This is not the space for this.

Maybe they would if you would quit locking the moderation thread

Zex wrote:

Valrifell wrote:What part of "stop talking about it" are you just not understanding?

NERVUN wrote:If you wish to talk about the story of this boy feel free to do so as long as it does not dip into trolling, but we will not allow this to generate into a thread where other players are called out for being either pedophiles or pedophile apologists.

Moderation gave there blessings.

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Since users are being deleted, I'll take this time to announce that I'm leaving. I've been thinking about doing so for a while for various personal reasons and I've been much less active lately. I've made a lot of good friends on this site, and I'll miss this place a lot. If I've said or done hurtful things to any of you, I deeply apologize, especially to Lady Scylla, who I antagonized horribly in a mental illness episode. Maybe one day I'll come back, and if any of you want to say some kind of special goodbye, I'll stay on for about 15 minutes or so. I'll still be on discord, so you guys who know me there will continue to speak to me there. To all of you, thank you, and congratulations. See you later, Space Cowboys.

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