Right Wing Discussion Thread XIV: Join the Friendkorps

[Germanic Templars]

No regrets for this sig btw lads. None at all.

Not my sig, but I feel proud knowing that others are against such acts.

[Reikoku]

In regards to whether or not children are “up in the air” about their gender any attempts at surgery should wait until much later. I would rather have a teenager or someone close to legal adulthood decide. It’s their decision to sterilize themselves if they pursue surgery after all. Yet with children...I would rather avoid lawsuits in the making especially when someone grows up, and realizes they (most likely their parents) made the wrong decision.

The standard at the present time is that teenagers can take puberty blockers until they've reached the age where they can make informed medical decisions. I've never met anyone who advocates nine year olds getting sex change operations and if they do... well, I have some unkind words for them that wouldn't really be within the rules to state, but these advocates would be such a small minority, no one would take them seriously.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

>Looks up
Please give me someone else, PLEAAAAASSEEEE!!!!!

As for what happened in that thread, I think there was a bunch of misunderstanding on both sides.
1: Desmond shouldn't be in a bar. He a minor. And even if he was a major he still shouldn't've been in that bar or any bars.
2: I can understand the sentiment of him "stripping", considering he wear skimpy clothing, had a bunch of make-up on, was dancing and had money thrown at him. What I have not found is the claim by certain nations up here that he was dancing in a sexual manner. If he was dancing in a sexual manner it'd be pedophilia and would be more messed up than it is now. But if not, then he's just dancing in women's clothing in a bar in money being thrown at him, which makes this kinda weird. Also, according to wiki, the kid some kind of autism so the parents really shouldn't be pressuring him to do a certain career.

In regards to drag shows people will often hand them money in a similar manner to strip shows. Given drag shows are grotesque mockeries of women for the sake of humor it can still have certain elements that don’t hide what they are.

Yeah there probs were some people in the crowd who got aroused by Desmond, but I don't think that was the goal of his performance. It's just very, very too close to the line of pedophilia.

[Benuty]

In regards to whether or not children are “up in the air” about their gender any attempts at surgery should wait until much later. I would rather have a teenager or someone close to legal adulthood decide. It’s their decision to sterilize themselves if they pursue surgery after all. Yet with children...I would rather avoid lawsuits in the making especially when someone grows up, and realizes they (most likely their parents) made the wrong decision.

If you can't get a tattoo, you can't get your dick lopped off sounds like a highly reasonable rule.

Tattoos are honestly overrated trash...nearly everyone I see in the streets has some form of then. You aren’t being unique by getting one unless you go all out by practically wearing them.

[Telconi]

I think most kids have some understanding of their gender and sexual orientation. Studies show a high correlation between trans individuals and realizing that something's "off" about their situation when young. I certainly had some understanding of my sexuality as far back as I can remember, even if I wouldn't have expressed it in such explicit terms.

I remember not understanding attraction very well but thinking certain girls were nice to look at, although not in so many words. I do remember an understanding that I would eventually be expected to find them attractive, but actually wanting to spend time around them didn't make a whole lot of sense.
It didn't even cross my mind that I might be bi until puberty though.
I'm cis as hell, so it's not likely that I would have any idea what trans kids/being off would have to do with it. No two cents there.

It really depends on the person, I was very much aware that I was attracted to girls. and very much aware of the nature of that attraction, by the time I was six or seven.

[Benuty]

No regrets for this sig btw lads. None at all.

Not my sig, but I feel proud knowing that others are against such acts.

Rip Nap though.

[Hrythingland]

If you can't get a tattoo, you can't get your dick lopped off sounds like a highly reasonable rule.

Tattoos are honestly overrated trash...nearly everyone I see in the streets has some form of then. You aren’t being unique by getting one unless you go all out by practically wearing them.

I have my unit insignia on my left shoulder since we all got it.

[Reikoku]

I remember not understanding attraction very well but thinking certain girls were nice to look at, although not in so many words. I do remember an understanding that I would eventually be expected to find them attractive, but actually wanting to spend time around them didn't make a whole lot of sense.
It didn't even cross my mind that I might be bi until puberty though.

I was always very fond of girls as friends in addition to finding older girls nice to look at. I wouldn't have considered myself having some bi tendencies until much later in life but that was due to a general understanding that it was 'wrong' rather than a lack of attraction. Ignore it and it will go away sort of thing.

As awkward as it is to say, God I missed you.

[Agarntrop]

I remember not understanding attraction very well but thinking certain girls were nice to look at, although not in so many words. I do remember an understanding that I would eventually be expected to find them attractive, but actually wanting to spend time around them didn't make a whole lot of sense.
It didn't even cross my mind that I might be bi until puberty though.
I'm cis as hell, so it's not likely that I would have any idea what trans kids/being off would have to do with it. No two cents there.

It really depends on the person, I was very much aware that I was attracted to girls. and very much aware of the nature of that attraction, by the time I was six or seven.

I don't think (in most cases) that you can get ideas about your sexuality until you've reached the beginning of puberty (sperm in boys, periods in girls).

[Conserative Morality]

As awkward as it is to say, God I missed you.

Ha. Been working. Seems like every time I come back this place is filled with more radtrads and alt-righters though.

[Benuty]

As awkward as it is to say, God I missed you.

Ha. Been working. Seems like every time I come back this place is filled with more radtrads and alt-righters though.

Given the disgruntlement with the system I am honestly not surprised.

[Hrythingland]

As awkward as it is to say, God I missed you.

Ha. Been working. Seems like every time I come back this place is filled with more radtrads and alt-righters though.

Radtrad check I suppose.

[Conserative Morality]

Given the disgruntlement with the system I am honestly not surprised.

More people should turn to radical liberalism instead. It's like normal liberalism but with guillotines. Good stuff! Solves all your problems!

[Telconi]

Given the disgruntlement with the system I am honestly not surprised.

More people should turn to radical liberalism instead. It's like normal liberalism but with guillotines. Good stuff! Solves all your problems!

I'mean curious as to how one goes about liberally decapitating those they disagree with.

[Germanic Templars]

Not my sig, but I feel proud knowing that others are against such acts.

Rip Nap though.

Undoubtedly so, good chap.

[Diopolis]

Tattoos are honestly overrated trash...nearly everyone I see in the streets has some form of then. You aren’t being unique by getting one unless you go all out by practically wearing them.

I have my unit insignia on my left shoulder since we all got it.

That's not quite as trashy. But tattooing in general seems wrong.

[Hrythingland]

I have my unit insignia on my left shoulder since we all got it.

That's not quite as trashy. But tattooing in general seems wrong.

Large tattoes are quite vulgar, as are many. A small symbol however that actually means something to you personally or wider group however I would say is fine.

[Diopolis]

That's not quite as trashy. But tattooing in general seems wrong.

Large tattoes are quite vulgar, as are many. A small symbol however that actually means something to you personally or wider group however I would say is fine.

Especially if it's covered when wearing clothes.

[NERVUN]

Ok, so let's review the rules regarding Harassment/Griefing. To wit:

Harassment/Griefing: Harassing/griefing a nation or region because of their words or actions is forbidden regardless - in telegrams, Regional Messageboard (RMB) posts, and on the forums.
*Accusations of misconduct that may bring real world repercussions outside of NationStates do not belong in public spaces on NationStates and will be punished as harassment. Players may post, in general terms, about factual repercussions taken in response (I.e. removal from a region or regional position), but may not go into details or link to material that does.

Napkiraly, *** DEAT for ***

Benuty, *** One day ban for ***

Thread re-opened.

[The New California Republic]

I have my unit insignia on my left shoulder since we all got it.

That's not quite as trashy. But tattooing in general seems wrong.

Why?

[Mardla]

It's absolutely the case that paedophiles were openly involved in the gay liberation movement from the 60s up to the 80s. A common enemy in the criminalising establishment and the emergence of wacky deconstructive philosophy created a moment where people stupidly thought that liberation could be achieved by total freedom for every individual to do what they wanted sexually with drastically unbalanced power dynamics through age just being another form of kink to be enabled for m a x i m u m f r e e d o m.

The ever-wonderful phenomenon of respectability politics meant that they were soon kicked out once the establishment showed a willingness to play nice with the moderates. But it is an instructive lesson. Wherever there's a big conversation about sexuality, gender and age they will try to insert themselves into it.

We're very aware of how difficult it is for queer people growing up. Well-meaning but naive middle class parents overcompensate? The nonces pop up to try to pull it into spectacles like that disgusting drag show. Queer advocacy online? Hello nomaps, the "inoffensive" version where surely the poor innocent people who don't act on their urges should be sympathised wit- oh look a large portion of them are ex-offenders or still active.

It's not an inevitable slippery slope from gay marriage to normalising paedophilia but they are an insidious menace (look how they've historically wormed their way into politics, religious institutions, and the entertainment industry). It stands to reason that they'd try particularly to worm their way into movements with grievances against the sex/sexuality/gender status quo.

Although the "Pride" movement has partly been sanitised into a marginally preferable lifestyle choice to sell branded shit to, the hardcore liberationists with sympathies to this sort of thing are still a factor. And the recent rise of queer theory, drawing on the methodology and arguments of the postmodernists who were originally sympathetic to or active participants in the paedophile movements, is definitely an issue.

But they've got further with it before and were kicked into touch enough for some people to think this is a new thing. So there's nothing inevitable about them being successful in normalising this or the wider community not kicking them out again when they wake up to it.

First wave pedoism of course came out of the sexual revolution. Second wave came up after the end of the pedo scare (we all remember the Paedofinder General). The difference, as I said before, is the the first wave focused on "liberating" adults, whereas the second chooses the angle of "liberating" kids

[Reikoku]

Given the disgruntlement with the system I am honestly not surprised.

More people should turn to radical liberalism instead. It's like normal liberalism but with guillotines. Good stuff! Solves all your problems!

Can't give up spiritualist nationalism, sorry.

[Salus Maior]

Because it is the norm. Transsexuality and homosexuality are both very small minorities. Odds are most people's kids won't be homosexual or transexual.

And the thing is, kids won't really know if they're outside that norm until they're pubescent anyway.

Wrong. Children can and have been able to identify that they are homosexual or transsexual at ages preceding puberty. I knew I was well before puberty.

Perhaps, but that does not mean every case where a kid "seems" gay means that they are.

[Mardla]

Given the disgruntlement with the system I am honestly not surprised.

More people should turn to radical liberalism instead. It's like normal liberalism but with guillotines. Good stuff! Solves all your problems!

The First French Republic would be considered ultra conservative, even "fascist", today.

[Thermodolia]

That's not quite as trashy. But tattooing in general seems wrong.

Why?

Religious reasons mostly. I know that tattoos are a no no in Judaism, still didn’t stop me from getting one