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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:38 pm

Joohan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
A reminder that the USSR was never Communist :^)



It could be if we actually had a revolution instead of continuing to allow the Capitalists to fuck us all over.


... Tor... could you please list me some functioning anarchist societies which have existed post industrial revolution?


Take a look. :3

And it's Torra. :V
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:38 pm

Herk I am disappointed. I see no tiny hidden memes.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:38 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The South Falls wrote:The Vatican has 800 people.


I'm talking about ones that're in the hundreds of thousands of people in population. The EZLN alone outnumber Iceland. If I combined every Anarchist movement and community's combined numbers, that shit would be tremendously higher. :^)

second place comes at around 100k v. the 350k from ezln, nice try
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:39 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The South Falls wrote:The Vatican has 800 people.

Sine when was the Vaican commie?

She said rivaling nations.
Torrocca wrote:
The South Falls wrote:The Vatican has 800 people.


I'm talking about ones that're in the hundreds of thousands of people in population. The EZLN alone outnumber Iceland. If I combined every Anarchist movement and community's combined numbers, that shit would be tremendously higher. :^)

According to what I was reading, they've got around 3,000 fighters, and tens of thousands of supporters. Iceland has about 2 million people.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:39 pm

Luminesa wrote:Herk I am disappointed. I see no tiny hidden memes.

c.f. title
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:39 pm

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:40 pm

I am disappointed that there was no group picture in the OP. On the other hand, I understand that designing something like that would not be easy and Herk did not have much time.
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:40 pm

Luminesa wrote:Herk I am disappointed. I see no tiny hidden memes.

It's very un-conservative. Too minimalistic.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:41 pm

Getting my new friend tag in early.

Also, hot take: Trickledown doesn’t work.
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:41 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:I am disappointed that there was no group picture in the OP. On the other hand, I understand that designing something like that would not be easy and Herk did not have much time.

That's very true. If it comes, I want to be in it.

Though, we need more memes.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:42 pm

The South Falls wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Sine when was the Vaican commie?

She said rivaling nations.
Torrocca wrote:
I'm talking about ones that're in the hundreds of thousands of people in population. The EZLN alone outnumber Iceland. If I combined every Anarchist movement and community's combined numbers, that shit would be tremendously higher. :^)

According to what I was reading, they've got around 3,000 fighters, and tens of thousands of supporters. Iceland has about 2 million people.


Iceland has a population of roughly 350,000 people, whereas the Zapatista communities have an overall population of around 365,000 people.

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I'm talking about ones that're in the hundreds of thousands of people in population. The EZLN alone outnumber Iceland. If I combined every Anarchist movement and community's combined numbers, that shit would be tremendously higher. :^)

second place comes at around 100k v. the 350k from ezln, nice try


The Landless Worker's Movement has 1.5 million members. :^)
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:42 pm

Joohan wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:^Exactly

And on the topic of the Jannisaries, they were a mixed bag. On the 1 one hand, they were kidnapped from their families at a young age. On the other hand, they converted to Al-Islam and advanced greatly in Ottoman society.

And Joohan, it's your turn to subjugate me now :)


Sounds kinky - and as we all know
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YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT :rofl:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Also I've boycotted the IDT until Amin/Kukumba leaves or publicly apologizes for and takes back his stance of child marriage and attempts to glorify 'Islamic' slavery.

I don't defend child marriage. And find me some daleel that says that Al-Islam sought to phase out slavery and I will. Also, why is "Islamic" in quotes? Islamic slavery is a thing, y'know.
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Postby Northeast American Federation » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:42 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:I am disappointed that there was no group picture in the OP. On the other hand, I understand that designing something like that would not be easy and Herk did not have much time.

That's very true. If it comes, I want to be in it.

Though, we need more memes.

Too many commies in here, they're liable to try and seize the memes of production.
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Postby Mardla » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:43 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Herk I am disappointed. I see no tiny hidden memes.

It's very un-conservative. Too minimalistic.

Biblical prose is very minimalist.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:43 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:I am disappointed that there was no group picture in the OP. On the other hand, I understand that designing something like that would not be easy and Herk did not have much time.

That's very true. If it comes, I want to be in it.

Though, we need more memes.

Let me be in it too!
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:43 pm

Kowani wrote:Getting my new friend tag in early.

Also, hot take: Trickledown doesn’t work.

Agreeable.
Torrocca wrote:
The South Falls wrote:She said rivaling nations.

According to what I was reading, they've got around 3,000 fighters, and tens of thousands of supporters. Iceland has about 2 million people.


Iceland has a population of roughly 350,000 people, whereas the Zapatista communities have an overall population of around 365,000 people.

Great Minarchistan wrote:second place comes at around 100k v. the 350k from ezln, nice try


The Landless Worker's Movement has 1.5 million members. :^)

Source for the EZLN?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:43 pm

Northeast American Federation wrote:
The South Falls wrote:That's very true. If it comes, I want to be in it.

Though, we need more memes.

Too many commies in here, they're liable to try and seize the memes of production.

:lol2: :clap:
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:44 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Sounds kinky - and as we all know
Image

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT :rofl:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Also I've boycotted the IDT until Amin/Kukumba leaves or publicly apologizes for and takes back his stance of child marriage and attempts to glorify 'Islamic' slavery.

I don't defend child marriage. And find me some daleel that says that Al-Islam sought to phase out slavery and I will. Also, why is "Islamic" in quotes? Islamic slavery is a thing, y'know.

So keeping slaves is fine, eh? Also, you have said before that child marriage is fine.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:44 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Kowani wrote:Getting my new friend tag in early.

Also, hot take: Trickledown doesn’t work.

Agreeable.

Source for the EZLN?


I was off by a bit, it's about 363,000 people.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:44 pm

Also, regarding what I said about Torra in the previous thread: I meant that she ought to be held accountable for bad behavior, not that I would report just to "use the mods as a weapon". And also, sorry for getting her pronouns wrong, I was a bit distracted.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:45 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT :rofl:

I don't defend child marriage. And find me some daleel that says that Al-Islam sought to phase out slavery and I will. Also, why is "Islamic" in quotes? Islamic slavery is a thing, y'know.

So keeping slaves is fine, eh?

As long as it is within the guidelines of Shari'ah, yes.
Greater Cesnica wrote:Also, you have said before that child marriage is fine.

Prove it.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:47 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:So keeping slaves is fine, eh?

As long as it is within the guidelines of Shari'ah, yes.
Greater Cesnica wrote:Also, you have said before that child marriage is fine.

Prove it.

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
It's never okay to marry a nine year old, sorry.

Says who?
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That was actually a prophetic dream. Allah SWT told the Prophet Muhammad SAWS that his marriage to A'isha RA would happen.


Slavery is a human rights violation.
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Postby Dark Socialism » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:48 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:As long as it is within the guidelines of Shari'ah, yes.

Prove it.

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Says who?

That was actually a prophetic dream. Allah SWT told the Prophet Muhammad SAWS that his marriage to A'isha RA would happen.


Slavery is a human rights violation.

But not a sharia violation
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:49 pm

Dark Socialism wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:

Slavery is a human rights violation.

But not a sharia violation

*sighs*
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:49 pm

Dark Socialism wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:

Slavery is a human rights violation.

But not a sharia violation


And here I thought we were over haggling about sharia and Islam in these threads.

I swear, if I hear one more discussion about Islam on this thread I WILL dissolve Parliament!!
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