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Postby Uxupox » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:22 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Uxupox wrote:Israel is a good boi. A beacon of “something” in the Middle East.

Miraculously, it hasn’t been invaded yet, but most sides in the Middle East are wrong. America and Russia have been interfering heavily, with most sides enforcing an outside agenda under the guise of fanatic theist or antitheist beliefs and devotion to their cause.


wait what? Israel has been invaded numerous times since its inception (or its neighbors have trying too anyway).
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:27 pm

Communal concils wrote:I would describe myself a type of State Socialist that supports Revolution.Unlike others. I dislike Liberalism, all forms of Libertarianism, and I reject Conservatism.

That’s Mussolini’s fascism for you, hating everyone including conservatives, liberal, and Marxists. You just pretend you are an unaligned socialist and not a fascist, but Mussolini too said he was a socialist. Opposing Marx for not being a crazy totalitarian gives you one more similarity.

But do go on. Teach me more about your rip-off Italian Fascism.
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:56 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Uxupox wrote:Israel is a good boi. A beacon of “something” in the Middle East.

Miraculously, it hasn’t been invaded yet, but most sides in the Middle East are wrong. America and Russia have been interfering heavily, with most sides enforcing an outside agenda under the guise of fanatic theist or antitheist beliefs and devotion to their cause.

Ummmm
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Postby Communal concils » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:59 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Communal concils wrote:I would describe myself a type of State Socialist that supports Revolution.Unlike others. I dislike Liberalism, all forms of Libertarianism, and I reject Conservatism.

That’s Mussolini’s fascism for you, hating everyone including conservatives, liberal, and Marxists. You just pretend you are an unaligned socialist and not a fascist, but Mussolini too said he was a socialist. Opposing Marx for not being a crazy totalitarian gives you one more similarity.

But do go on. Teach me more about your rip-off Italian Fascism.


1. A Fascist supports class collaberation, I how ever think that the rich don't deserve their dominate positions. I Support a command economy

2.I believe in Gender equality, Which isn't part of the Fascist appeal to the old order.

3.I don't value the fantasy of acheiving a reincarnation of old empires.This is obviously the main differance between me and a fascist, I want a completely differant order.


4.I don't hate all communist, I tend to agree with the ones that value existing Marxist states.
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:00 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:So with the upcoming Israeli election, what does RWDT think about current Israeli politics?

Israel shouldn't be a thing.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:01 pm

Yusseria wrote:Ummmm

It wasn’t a successful one and Israel was new anyway.
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Postby The National Salvation Front for Russia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:03 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:It wasn’t a successful one and Israel was new anyway.

Israel has been embroiled in three wars, War of 1948, Six Days War (1967) and Yom Kippur War (1973), and this doesn't include low-intensity conflicts like the War of Attrition, which ended in 1970.
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Postby Darussalam » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:04 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:So with the upcoming Israeli election, what does RWDT think about current Israeli politics?

For the Palestinians' own good, Palestine shouldn't exist.

That said, I'm consistently partial to Yisrael Beitenu.
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Postby Duvniask » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:05 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:So with the upcoming Israeli election, what does RWDT think about current Israeli politics?


Israel is a good boi. A beacon of “something” in the Middle East.

Israel is an apartheid state that engages in various human rights abuses.

A "good boi" it is not.
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:06 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Ummmm

It wasn’t a successful one and Israel was new anyway.

Still counts as an invasion. And it was not even the last time Israel was invaded.
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Postby Darussalam » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:09 pm

Duvniask wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Israel is a good boi. A beacon of “something” in the Middle East.

Israel is an apartheid state that engages in various human rights abuses.

A "good boi" it is not.

Arabs in Israel are significantly better off than Arabs in Arab countries.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:09 pm

Communal concils wrote:
1. A Fascist supports class collaberation, I how ever think that the rich don't deserve their dominate positions. I Support a command economy

2.I believe in Gender equality, Which isn't part of the Fascist appeal to the old order.

3.I don't value the fantasy of acheiving a reincarnation of old empires.This is obviously the main differance between me and a fascist, I want a completely differant order.


4.I don't hate all communist, I tend to agree with the ones that value existing Marxist states.

1. A corrupt dictatorship tends to have rich people in charge, usually because they have stolen wealth.
2. The Fascists too said they would support equal political and social rights for men and women. Although, you can never trust a fascist’s words.
3. The Italian Fascists wanted a new type of government, regarding liberalism, Marxism, and conservatism as obsolete and weak. Neo-fascists are very reactionary, but I wouldn’t describe as conservative, just far right.
4. You’d hate communism, if you knew what is was.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:12 pm

Yusseria wrote:Still counts as an invasion. And it was not even the last time Israel was invaded.

Israel still exists with minimal territorial change. They have been invaded completely or successfully and they still exist. I never said they haven’t been attacked, I said it was a wonder they haven’t been beaten by neighboring countries and overthrown.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby Uxupox » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:12 pm

Duvniask wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Israel is a good boi. A beacon of “something” in the Middle East.

Israel is an apartheid state that engages in various human rights abuses.

A "good boi" it is not.


a lot better than its neighbors who regularly cut off kids hands for stealing a meal or two.
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Postby Communal concils » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:22 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Communal concils wrote:
1. A Fascist supports class collaberation, I how ever think that the rich don't deserve their dominate positions. I Support a command economy

2.I believe in Gender equality, Which isn't part of the Fascist appeal to the old order.

3.I don't value the fantasy of acheiving a reincarnation of old empires.This is obviously the main differance between me and a fascist, I want a completely differant order.


4.I don't hate all communist, I tend to agree with the ones that value existing Marxist states.

1. A corrupt dictatorship tends to have rich people in charge, usually because they have stolen wealth.
2. The Fascists too said they would support equal political and social rights for men and women. Although, you can never trust a fascist’s words.
3. The Italian Fascists wanted a new type of government, regarding liberalism, Marxism, and conservatism as obsolete and weak. Neo-fascists are very reactionary, but I wouldn’t describe as conservative, just far right.
4. You’d hate communism, if you knew what is was.



1.I think that preventing this could be done through strict punishment. The Government would have to have restrictions on the type of individuals elected. Their background is a example of this.

2.We could say the same thing for all beliefs systems. People put faith in these beliefs, they simply hope for a better life.

3.I would advocate for a type of ideological "purity", all thing theoretically advocated, must also be practiced in reality.

4.Communism is a Stateless, Classless and Moneyless society. However, the Marxist states have not gone through their transitions(Though others reject the phase to communism).I tend to agree with the Marxist-Leninist, the main difference is the end goals.
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Postby Novus America » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:24 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:So with the upcoming Israeli election, what does RWDT think about current Israeli politics?

Israel shouldn't be a thing.


It is a thing. You can argue it should not have been created in the first place.
But it is there, the people there have rights, guns, and are not leaving.
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Postby Novus America » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:27 pm

Duvniask wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Israel is a good boi. A beacon of “something” in the Middle East.

Israel is an apartheid state that engages in various human rights abuses.

A "good boi" it is not.


It is not a apartheid state as it gives Arab Israelis full citizenship.
They can vote.

In terms of human rights it is far from perfect but by far the best in the region.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby The South Falls » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:32 pm

Novus America wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Israel is an apartheid state that engages in various human rights abuses.

A "good boi" it is not.


It is not a apartheid state as it gives Arab Israelis full citizenship.
They can vote.

In terms of human rights it is far from perfect but by far the best in the region.

What about Jordan?
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Postby Kowani » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:32 pm

Novus America wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Israel is an apartheid state that engages in various human rights abuses.

A "good boi" it is not.


It is not a apartheid state as it gives Arab Israelis full citizenship.
They can vote.

In terms of human rights it is far from perfect but by far the best in the region.

That’s not really that hard...
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:36 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Novus America wrote:
It is not a apartheid state as it gives Arab Israelis full citizenship.
They can vote.

In terms of human rights it is far from perfect but by far the best in the region.

What about Jordan?


Jordan actually does give citizenship to those Palestinian refugees seeking it. Though it is the only neighbor to do so as pretty much everybody else tells them to "fuck off". Even Egypt has invaded Gaza a few times.
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:37 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Still counts as an invasion. And it was not even the last time Israel was invaded.

Israel still exists with minimal territorial change. They have been invaded completely or successfully and they still exist. I never said they haven’t been attacked, I said it was a wonder they haven’t been beaten by neighboring countries and overthrown.

You said...
Miraculously, it hasn’t been invaded yet

...which is factually false. An invasion does not need to be successful for it to still be an invasion.
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Postby Novus America » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:41 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Novus America wrote:
It is not a apartheid state as it gives Arab Israelis full citizenship.
They can vote.

In terms of human rights it is far from perfect but by far the best in the region.

What about Jordan?


Jordan is probably second best. Still less democratic. Less rule of law.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:41 pm

Uxupox wrote:
The South Falls wrote:What about Jordan?


Jordan actually does give citizenship to those Palestinian refugees seeking it. Though it is the only neighbor to do so as pretty much everybody else tells them to "fuck off". Even Egypt has invaded Gaza a few times.

See, Jordan has possibly the best human rights in the region.
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:44 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Jordan actually does give citizenship to those Palestinian refugees seeking it. Though it is the only neighbor to do so as pretty much everybody else tells them to "fuck off". Even Egypt has invaded Gaza a few times.

See, Jordan has possibly the best human rights in the region.


not really though. they got them sharia courts in full session.
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:46 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Jordan actually does give citizenship to those Palestinian refugees seeking it. Though it is the only neighbor to do so as pretty much everybody else tells them to "fuck off". Even Egypt has invaded Gaza a few times.

See, Jordan has possibly the best human rights in the region.

It still enforces Sharia so not really.
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