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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:05 am

Fahran wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:How radical is my ideology on a scale from 1 to 10, where one is centrism, and ten is anarcho-totalitarianism? :p

Your overall philosophy is probably more radical than your political ideology. If you're European, based on what we've discussed, I'd probably put you at a 4 or 5. If you're American, then you're probably a 6 or 7. Overton Window and all that.


I hail from the grim darkness of Northeastern Pennsylvania, so perhaps a 6.5 then? I do recognize that my philosophical views are... somewhat unconventional, but I was under the impression that they nevertheless fell within the Overton Window of socially acceptable discourse.

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I mean, I seem to have a sense of humor equivalent to that of a crate of turnips, which is to say none whatsoever.

When you think it's sarcasm, it probably is.


The difficulty thus lies in determining traces of sarcasm in the first place, it seems.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:06 am

Proctopeo wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Actually it's not a doujin at all and is mostly about parental abandonment and interpersonal interactions.

Sounds sad, I'll pass.
I prefer happy media.

Also giant robot fighting interrupted by angsty teens having existential freak-outs.
So you know, RDWT in a nutshell. :p :p
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:06 am

Genivaria wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Sounds sad, I'll pass.
I prefer happy media.

Also giant robot fighting interrupted by angsty teens having existential freak-outs.
So you know, RDWT in a nutshell. :p :p

>tfw I never had an existential crisis
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Postby Painisia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:07 am

The reason I didn't get included, is because I am a centrist taking holidays in RWDT, rather than staying here permanently and getting extreme. The only form of authoritarianism I would espouse is non-racialist national syndicalism and corporatism. Everybody here believes in divine monarchs and right-wing Posadism
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:07 am

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:Auto-da-fe? What's an auto-da-fe?

A spanish inquisition watching party.

Damn, I really thought you'd get that reference: https://youtu.be/LnF1OtP2Svk?t=235
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:08 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:That looks like it's from a doujin where guys love other guys tbqh

Actually it's not a doujin at all and is mostly about parental abandonment and interpersonal interactions.


It also involves a boy masturbating over a comatose girl's body.

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Postby Dresderstan » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:08 am

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Fahran wrote:Your overall philosophy is probably more radical than your political ideology. If you're European, based on what we've discussed, I'd probably put you at a 4 or 5. If you're American, then you're probably a 6 or 7. Overton Window and all that.


I hail from the grim darkness of Northeastern Pennsylvania, so perhaps a 6.5 then? I do recognize that my philosophical views are... somewhat unconventional, but I was under the impression that they nevertheless fell within the Overton Window of socially acceptable discourse.

Diopolis wrote:When you think it's sarcasm, it probably is.


The difficulty thus lies in determining traces of sarcasm in the first place, it seems.

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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:09 am

Painisia wrote:The reason I didn't get included, is because I am a centrist taking holidays in RWDT, rather than staying here permanently and getting extreme. The only form of authoritarianism I would espouse is non-racialist national syndicalism and corporatism. Everybody here believes in divine monarchs and right-wing Posadism


But I don't believe in divinely-ordained monarchy, nor do I believe in Posadism.
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The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Postby Fahran » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:09 am

Hanafuridake wrote:Yes, it's called thriftiness. ;)

That's a good trait! No bulli!

Hanafuridake wrote:My political ideology has been changing somewhat the past few months. I've been becoming more conservative, seeing more use in organic institutions and traditional culture, while developing a stronger sense of religiousness, primarily through the Pure Land & Shingon schools. I don't really think I could be a devout member of my religion without nationalism. Nationalism makes my religious beliefs something real and tangible, a living belief instead of an abstract reality.

So you're turning into a more based Japanese, Buddhist version of me? I approve. :p

Do you feel like your changing ideology has accompanied any changes in your life? Or like it's been inspired by anything in particular?

Hanafuridake wrote:Still a Kokugakusha fangirl who writes moody poetry about the world and emotions.

I need to begin writing poetry again. Recover my romantic, flighty self.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:09 am

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:You are a paragon of virtuous propriety, Old Tyrannia, a pillar of the NationStates community, a gentleman, a scholar, a shining example for us to strive for! :)

And as long as I keep the gay Nazi tentacle furry porn hidden, everyone will keep on thinking that.
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Diopolis wrote:Ah, yes. My auto-da-fe is still to any of yall, though.

Auto-da-fe? What's an auto-da-fe?

All you need to know is not to go if Dio invites you to one.
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:10 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Actually it's not a doujin at all and is mostly about parental abandonment and interpersonal interactions.


It also involves a boy masturbating over a comatose girl's body.

Image

Oh, so it is a doujin then.
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:11 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:You are a paragon of virtuous propriety, Old Tyrannia, a pillar of the NationStates community, a gentleman, a scholar, a shining example for us to strive for! :)

And as long as I keep the gay Nazi tentacle furry porn hidden, everyone will keep on thinking that.


Is this sarcasm or is this sincerity? It seems like sarcasm, but there isn't the " :p " indicator typically associated with silliness, nor is there the "/s" tag.
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My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:11 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:You are a paragon of virtuous propriety, Old Tyrannia, a pillar of the NationStates community, a gentleman, a scholar, a shining example for us to strive for! :)

And as long as I keep the gay Nazi tentacle furry porn hidden, everyone will keep on thinking that.
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Auto-da-fe? What's an auto-da-fe?

All you need to know is not to go if Dio invites you to one.

Let's face it, we can't Torquemada anything.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:11 am

Hanafuridake wrote:It also involves a boy masturbating over a comatose girl's body.


I regret Commodore Perry's decision.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:14 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
It also involves a boy masturbating over a comatose girl's body.

Image

Oh, so it is a doujin then.

It's not self-published, so it's not a doujinshi.
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:And as long as I keep the gay Nazi tentacle furry porn hidden, everyone will keep on thinking that.


Is this sarcasm or is this sincerity? It seems like sarcasm, but there isn't the " :p " indicator typically associated with silliness, nor is there the "/s" tag.

I'm British. It's impossible to tell whether we're being sarcastic or not.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:14 am

Fahran wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:That's because nobody likes weaboo lolitacons.

I thought we all loved DI here. :^)


Hello, police? I would like to report my own murder. Miss Scarlet, in the library, with the velvet-gloved backhanded compliment.
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:15 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Oh, so it is a doujin then.

It's not self-published, so it's not a doujinshi.

Shit, forgot my terms, probably cause I'm hungry.
It's a hentai, then.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:16 am

Fahran wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:It also involves a boy masturbating over a comatose girl's body.


I regret Commodore Perry's decision.

To be fair, it's portrayed as the main character's final descent into being disgusting, having been a penultimate act of dehumanizing others in his mind, and he even acknowledges that, after doing so, he's unable to redeem himself without divine intervention.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:17 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Oh, so it is a doujin then.

It's not self-published, so it's not a doujinshi.

Why the fuck do you know that? I go on 4Chan and I didn't even know that.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:18 am

Painisia wrote:The reason I didn't get included, is because I am a centrist taking holidays in RWDT, rather than staying here permanently and getting extreme. The only form of authoritarianism I would espouse is non-racialist national syndicalism and corporatism. Everybody here believes in divine monarchs and right-wing Posadism


The only person who unironically believed in a "divine monarchy" doesn't post here anymore.

Believing that a monarch's right-to-rule is granted by God (aka "Divine Right") is different than "Divine Monarchy". That's basically just Japan.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:18 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:It's not self-published, so it's not a doujinshi.

Why the fuck do you know that? I go on 4Chan and I didn't even know that.

This is proof of your corruption. :D
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Postby Fahran » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:19 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Hello, police? I would like to report my own murder. Miss Scarlet, in the library, with the velvet-gloved backhanded compliment.

Sorry, DI. I saw the opportunity and had to go for it - if only to get you to throw some sass back at me. :lol:

United Muscovite Nations wrote:To be fair, it's portrayed as the main character's final descent into being disgusting, having been a penultimate act of dehumanizing others in his mind, and he even acknowledges that, after doing so, he's unable to redeem himself without divine intervention.

Interesting. I'm not really into anime, but I have read a few Japanese visual novels with rather disquieting or aesthetics themes. A few of my university classes had a wealthy of goodies.
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- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:20 am

Genivaria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Why the fuck do you know that? I go on 4Chan and I didn't even know that.

This is proof of your corruption. :D

As Pret said, I embody both the worst in humanity and the best in humanity.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:23 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Fahran wrote:I regret Commodore Perry's decision.

To be fair, it's portrayed as the main character's final descent into being disgusting, having been a penultimate act of dehumanizing others in his mind, and he even acknowledges that, after doing so, he's unable to redeem himself without divine intervention.

And people wonder why I skipped End of Evangelion.
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:It's not self-published, so it's not a doujinshi.

Why the fuck do you know that? I go on 4Chan and I didn't even know that.

私は究極の親日になりました。

Actually I just looked up what it meant.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:25 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:To be fair, it's portrayed as the main character's final descent into being disgusting, having been a penultimate act of dehumanizing others in his mind, and he even acknowledges that, after doing so, he's unable to redeem himself without divine intervention.

And people wonder why I skipped End of Evangelion.

It's actually a really good movie, even if it's a huge trip. Though personally I prefer the original ending to the show because it focuses more on the themes of the show than the action.
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