Right Wing Discussion Thread XIV: Join the Friendkorps

[Aellex]

Really, the best timeline would have been the Portuguese and Japanese converts burning every Shinto shrine to the ground.

Alas, that didn't happen and now we have weebs like you to deal with.

>when you really want to destroy the pagans's altars but their priestesses' outfit is also really cute

[Germanic Templars]

That is because he was nowhere near a shinto shrine, let alone any shrine that was Hindu or anything East of modern day Israel, silly.

I see you deny God's omnipresence.

Maybe I do, maybe I don't. Maybe I should check with Lumi on that and get her opinion on the matter, since she is more closer in faith.

[Fahran]

Most of the Black Cats here were thots.

In all fairness, I had every appearance of a thot until people spoke to me and learned that I do science stuff. A clever word or two will do more to protect your image than the thickest burqa in the West. It helps that I use big words when I drink and don't get sloppy drunk.

[Germanic Templars]

Really, the best timeline would have been the Portuguese and Japanese converts burning every Shinto shrine to the ground.

Alas, that didn't happen and now we have weebs like you to deal with.

>when you really want to destroy the pagans's altars but their priestesses' outfit is also really cute

A heretic is a heretic.

[Fahran]

A heretic is a heretic.

A cute outfit is a cute outfit.

[Reikoku]

While Cesare Borgia certainly indulged in the sorts of heretical shenanigans not uncommon among the secular nobility of his age, resorting to astrology and the like, and would have made a poor priest, it's a stretch to argue that he wasn't at least nominally Catholic. I suspect his papacy, if it had materialized, would have rather resembled that of his father - who was a more secular pope but far more clever than most modern people give him credit for.

Oh, I don't disagree. Nietzsche was, at best, a pop cultural historian (and religious critic) and I doubt that Cesare Borgia didn't believe in Catholicism so much as jump through mental hoops to justify his behavior. But the realm of possibility never stopped AH-scenarios before.

Better the Tarpeian Rock and remembered as a righteous Roman, rather than a degenerate who likes to swim with Tiberius' "minnows." :^)

Rei, you're bullying CM like Pompey bullied Mithridates.

He is even worse than a Turk. He is, may Allah forgive me for even uttering this word, a Hellenophile.

[Germanic Templars]

A heretic is a heretic.

A cute outfit is a cute outfit.

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[Western Vale Confederacy]

A heretic is a heretic.

A cute outfit is a cute outfit.

A guillotine is a guillotine.

No cute girl shall deter me from the true hedonist pleasure: The GUILLOTINE!

[Aellex]

A cute outfit is a cute outfit.

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But miko garments are beautiful tho.

[Fahran]

Out of curiosity, Rei, could you fill us in on the symbolism and traditions of Japanese dress? Specifically with regards to the garments worn by miko, samurai, and daimyo. Did they have any political implications based on colors and symbols?

[Reikoku]

Out of curiosity, Rei, could you fill us in on the symbolism and traditions of Japanese dress? Specifically with regards to the garments worn by miko, samurai, and daimyo. Did they have any political implications based on colors and symbols?

The hakama is a pretty ordinary sight in formal settings, and there's no religious significance to the vestments worn by miko or kannushi, besides historical significance because they were the traditional court attire of the Heian period. I can't really say anything about daimyo kimono, to be honest. I've just never looked into it.

[Salus Maior]

Really, the best timeline would have been the Portuguese and Japanese converts burning every Shinto shrine to the ground.

I should make a quip about how the fumi-e needs to be brought back, or that Christianity is an evil religion that needed to be destroyed, but I don't think that I will stoop to the levels of your savagery. The Yamato damashii could never be destroyed by the vulgar efforts of the Portuguese slavers-cum-missionaries and those daimyo who they had bribed into converting with promise of trade.

"My level of savagery"

What's wrong, Rei? You can dish out snipes towards my religion but you can't take it if I respond in kind?

The funny thing is, Rei, I don't dislike you. I really don't. In fact, I think we have a decent amount of common ground considering we both are believers in traditional institutions like monarchy and oppose the liberalization of religion. I think we could both get along fine if we both just agreed to stop sniping each other's religions (which doesn't promote any kind meaningful discussion anyway).

[Salus Maior]

God is OP and he can’t he be Mary Sue since he/she is the writer of this book.

Assuming god is the writer of the book, there's still the fact that Self-Insert Mary Sues are even worse than regular Mary Sues tho

Who says God wrote the Bible? Nobody says that.

[Reikoku]

What's wrong, Rei? You can dish out snipes towards my religion but you can't take it if I respond in kind?

If what you were responding to was a snipe, which it wasn't. It was me liking the idea that Nietzsche put forth where the Church would've ended up adopting the same values as mine. Apparently this is a horror akin to imitating Taliban in destroying UNESCO world heritage sites.

The funny thing is, Rei, I don't dislike you.

The same way that you "respect" Japan, I'm sure.

[Reikoku]

>when you really want to destroy the pagans's altars but their priestesses' outfit is also really cute

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A heretic is a heretic.

Have words lost their meaning? How can you be a heretic when you aren't an adherent to the Christian religion.

[Salus Maior]

What's wrong, Rei? You can dish out snipes towards my religion but you can't take it if I respond in kind?

If what you were responding to was a snipe, which it wasn't. It was me liking the idea that Nietzsche put forth where the Church would've ended up adopting the same values as mine. Apparently this is a horror akin to imitating Taliban in destroying UNESCO world heritage sites.

The funny thing is, Rei, I don't dislike you.

The same way that you "respect" Japan, I'm sure.

It is essentially the destruction of the Church and everything it was founded to do and represent. It really isn't a much different statement from me saying that Japan should have dumped Shinto and adopted my beliefs and values. It's not difficult to see how that would be offensive and seen as a snipe.

Well, forgive me for extending an olive branch, which I absolutely have no obligation to do. If I weren't sincere in saying that, why would I say it?

[Bienenhalde]

The Borgia sold out Christianity for gold and women, Luther sold out Christianity for a single nun.

Yeah Luther exalting the family as opposed to the quasi-monastic interpretation of the imperfect men some Catholic theologians called women was a real blow.

Tbf, sometimes I wonder if perhaps Luther was wrong about clerical marriage. After all, isn't it more important to maintain purity and avoid lust than to bring more children into a world that is already becoming overpopulated?

[Loben]

Yeah Luther exalting the family as opposed to the quasi-monastic interpretation of the imperfect men some Catholic theologians called women was a real blow.

Tbf, sometimes I wonder if perhaps Luther was wrong about clerical marriage. After all, isn't it more important to maintain purity and avoid lust than to bring more children into a world that is already becoming overpopulated?

depends on the situation.

god could always use more soldiers.

[Reikoku]

It is essentially the destruction of the Church and everything it was founded to do and represent.

Which is something that technically all non-Christians want. It's a far cry from persecution.

It's not difficult to see how that would be offensive and seen as a snipe.

It was a quote from a book about Nietzsche that I liked. Even if you find it offensive, it was not a snipe. I've expressed before how much I like the idea of a pagan papal monarchy, so it's not as though I were sharing something with the intent of offending you.

It really isn't a much different statement from me saying that Japan should have dumped Shinto and adopted my beliefs and values.

You want Japan to adopt your beliefs, and while that annoys me, it's quite a separate category from "I wish Portuguese and converts burnt down religious & historical monuments." the two are nowhere equivocal.

Well, forgive me for extending an olive branch, which I absolutely have no obligation to do. If I weren't sincere in saying that, why would I say it?

You called me a "weeb" and supported Portuguese slaver scum committing cultural genocide. The only thing keeping me relatively civil is the rules of this site.

[Salus Maior]

It is essentially the destruction of the Church and everything it was founded to do and represent.

1.Which is something that technically all non-Christians want. It's a far cry from persecution.

It's not difficult to see how that would be offensive and seen as a snipe.

2.It was a quote from a book about Nietzsche that I liked. Even if you find it offensive, it was not a snipe. I've expressed before how much I like the idea of a pagan papal monarchy, so it's not as though I were sharing something with the intent of offending you.

It really isn't a much different statement from me saying that Japan should have dumped Shinto and adopted my beliefs and values.

3.You want Japan to adopt your beliefs, and while that annoys me, it's quite a separate category from "I wish Portuguese and converts burnt down religious & historical monuments." the two are nowhere equivocal.

Well, forgive me for extending an olive branch, which I absolutely have no obligation to do. If I weren't sincere in saying that, why would I say it?

4.You called me a "weeb" and supported Portuguese slaver scum committing cultural genocide. The only thing keeping me relatively civil is the rules of this site.

1. "All non-Christians want the destruction of the Church, how is that persecution????" Really? It's hostile at the very least.

2. Maybe not me in particular, but to express a hatred of Christianity in general? Obviously. Which is why I retaliated in such a way to show it wasn't appreciated.

3. It was a retaliation, a rather exaggerated one I admit, with the purpose of showing that I don't appreciate snipes on my faith out of nowhere. I don't actually believe that historical sites should be destroyed (maybe converted a-la the Pantheon, or otherwise secularized and preserved like the Hagia Sophia, but not destroyed).

4. I apologize for calling you a weeb, I was upset. You clearly have a better and more comprehensive understanding of Japanese culture than someone typically labeled as a weeb.

[Fahran]

Tbf, sometimes I wonder if perhaps Luther was wrong about clerical marriage. After all, isn't it more important to maintain purity and avoid lust than to bring more children into a world that is already becoming overpopulated?

Again, overpopulation is a myth. Also, "be fruitful and multiply." Priests have a particular reason why they don't get married and have children, but this isn't applicable to the laity.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Tbf, sometimes I wonder if perhaps Luther was wrong about clerical marriage. After all, isn't it more important to maintain purity and avoid lust than to bring more children into a world that is already becoming overpopulated?

Again, overpopulation is a myth. Also, "be fruitful and multiply." Priests have a particular reason why they don't get married and have children, but this isn't applicable to the laity.

I'd argue that while a maintaining a healthy birth rate (the minimum for efficient population renewal is 2.1 per couple) is very important, we're certainly becoming crowded with 7 billion people and growing on Earth.

[Loben]

Again, overpopulation is a myth. Also, "be fruitful and multiply." Priests have a particular reason why they don't get married and have children, but this isn't applicable to the laity.

I'd argue that while a maintaining a healthy birth rate (the minimum for efficient population renewal is 2.1 per couple) is very important, we're certainly becoming crowded with 7 billion people and growing on Earth.

only in africa and asia it seems.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I'd argue that while a maintaining a healthy birth rate (the minimum for efficient population renewal is 2.1 per couple) is very important, we're certainly becoming crowded with 7 billion people and growing on Earth.

only in africa and asia it seems.

Well, in comparison, most Western countries are literally dying off and shrinking.

We need more *cough* procreative sex *cough* incentives to keep the population both stable and growing at a manageable rate!

[Loben]

only in africa and asia it seems.

Well, in comparison, most Western countries are literally dying off and shrinking.

We need more *cough* procreative sex *cough* incentives to keep the population both stable and growing at a manageable rate!

tax cuts or government payments.