Right Wing Discussion Thread XIV: Join the Friendkorps

[Dresderstan]

Well I guess I'm a broken, degenerate perv because I've done it all and I'm not even married.

[Valrifell]

Well I guess I'm a broken, degenerate perv because I've done it all and I'm not even married.

Disgustingly average.

THIS IS NOT WHAT JESUS DIED FOR.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

A healthy lifestyle is obviously a necessity for longevity and success (I have begun reorganizing my diet into something much cleaner and I have recently begun weightlifting), but you do realize that rubbing one off is actually healthy, right?

EFFEMINATE BETA MALE!

I’m a soyboy, ‘cept I chug chocolate milk instead!

A healthy lifestyle is obviously a necessity for longevity and success (I have begun reorganizing my diet into something much cleaner and I have recently begun weightlifting), but you do realize that rubbing one off is actually healthy, right?

There's a difference between rubbing one out occasionally and consuming porn in the quantities a lot of young people do nowadays.

Occasionals do not reap the full benefits, my dude.

There's a difference between rubbing one out occasionally and consuming porn in the quantities a lot of young people do nowadays.

If you have sex you're a degenerate, if you masturbate with your imagination, you're a perv, if you look at porn, you're broken. No winning, smh.

And if you abstain from sex, you’re an incel.

[Diopolis]

There's a difference between rubbing one out occasionally and consuming porn in the quantities a lot of young people do nowadays.

If you have sex you're a degenerate, if you masturbate with your imagination, you're a perv, if you look at porn, you're broken. No winning, smh.

Nothing degenerate about sex. How else do you think we make children?

[Conserative Morality]

If you have sex you're a degenerate, if you masturbate with your imagination, you're a perv, if you look at porn, you're broken. No winning, smh.

Nothing degenerate about sex. How else do you think we make children?

This may be shocking, so please sit down before continuing, but not everyone over the age of consent is married.

[Hanafuridake]

Well then what is he?

This may shock you, but the vast majority of humanity have no strong feelings regarding the rivalries of the ancient Greek city states. I'm pretty sure CM is more of a Rome fanboy, but even more shockingly many people don't feel a strong affinity with any historical culture or state at all.

The only acceptable long dead civilization to idolize is ancient Yamato which only real flaw was not subjugating Izumo hard enough.

[Torrocca]

And if you abstain from sex, you’re an incel.

Incels, by definition, aren't attempting to abstain from sex.

That's why vocels exist.

[Byzconia]

And if you abstain from sex, you’re an incel.

Incels, by definition, aren't attempting to abstain from sex.

That's why vocels exist.

What's the difference between vocels and MGTOW? I'm not up on my stupid man-o-sphere labels.

[Torrocca]

Incels, by definition, aren't attempting to abstain from sex.

That's why vocels exist.

What's the difference between vocels and MGTOW? I'm not up on my stupid man-o-sphere labels.

Vocels are just outright abstainers who've adopted a new, hip, contemporary label and MGTOWs are, like, vocels but mostly radicalized into either incelized misogyny or some kinda depression-olympics incelism.

Shit's fucking weird.

[Novus America]

What's the difference between vocels and MGTOW? I'm not up on my stupid man-o-sphere labels.

Vocels are just outright abstainers who've adopted a new, hip, contemporary label and MGTOWs are, like, vocels but mostly radicalized into either incelized misogyny or some kinda depression-olympics incelism.

Shit's fucking weird.

The Man-o-sphere is a dark and terrifying place where reality is warped beyond recognition. Escape is not easy.
It is not for the faint of heart, or the sane.
It probably is actually in the warp or something. I find no evidence it corresponds to this plane of existence.

[Hanafuridake]

There is a tradition of kingship in Buddhism that is unfortunately ignored in most Buddhist studies in the West, where the king has a divine mandate to rule according to religious principles. The sacral role of the Buddha is compared with the secular role of the cakravartin throughout the Pāli Canon, and the Aggañña Sutta describes ancient society as organizing spontaneously in a tiered system with a king to judge society because of his merit:

20. ‘Then those beings came together and lamented the arising of these evil things among them: taking what was not given, censuring, lying and punishment. And they thought: “Suppose we were to appoint a certain being who would show anger where anger was due, censure those who deserved it, and banish those who deserved banishment! And in return, we would grant him a share of the rice.” [93] So they went to the one among them who was the handsomest, the best-looking, the most pleasant and capable, and asked him to do this for them in return for a share of the rice, and he agreed.

21. “‘The People’s Choice” is the meaning of Mahā-Sammata, which is the first regular title to be introduced. “Lord Of The Fields” is the meaning of Khattiya, the second such title. And “He Gladdens Others With Dhamma” is the meaning of Raja, the third title to be introduced. This, then, Vāseṭṭha, is the origin of the class of Khattiyas, in accordance with the ancient titles that were introduced for them. They originated among these very same beings, like ourselves, no different, and in accordance with Dhamma, not otherwise.

Some Mahayana schools identified the king with the lord of the cosmos Mahāvairocana.

Clerics and emperors integrated Esoteric teachings into Japan because many of their fundamental tenets proved useful tools in the legitimization of religious and political power. Since the incipient stages of Esoteric teachings in India, the tradition was laden with political overtones. A primary deity in the Esoteric pantheon, Mahāvairocana 大日如来, was associated with benevolent, charismatic leadership, manifested in the cakravartin ( 転輪聖王) ideal, or a universal king who rules ethically and benevolently over the entire world. In Esoteric Buddhist teachings, this concept associates the political ruler in a given region with Mahāvairocana, the ruler of the cosmos.

Unless Queen Elizabeth declares herself Empress of India and converts to Buddhism, I don't think this will ever be of much relevance to the West, but thought it would be interesting for some of our more conservative members here.

[Germanic Templars]

What's the difference between vocels and MGTOW? I'm not up on my stupid man-o-sphere labels.

Vocels are just outright abstainers who've adopted a new, hip, contemporary label and MGTOWs are, like, vocels but mostly radicalized into either incelized misogyny or some kinda depression-olympics incelism.

Shit's fucking weird.

Hardly so, and a bit far from the truth there. I mean priests and monks can be considered vocel since they are celibate. I mean looking up the definition it means: abstaining from marriage and sexual relations, typically for religious reasons.
typically is underlined because it is not the only reason.

[Germanic Templars]

Incels, by definition, aren't attempting to abstain from sex.

That's why vocels exist.

What's the difference between vocels and MGTOW? I'm not up on my stupid man-o-sphere labels.

Men Go Their Own Way is vocel, but more or less in the form of being highly against gynocentric bias and being a men's right movement. Could they have been incels? Of course, no doubt there, but to say all would be a bit of a misunderstanding too. That said, this movement is a reddit movement from the 2000s so make what you will of it. I simply am not apart of it.

[Painisia]

Have there been or are there still Holocaust deniers in NS?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Have there been or are there still Holocaust deniers in NS?

Kustonia, I believe denies the holocaust, and there have been several people like that on the forums. Most of them ultimately earn DOS status though for constant rule-breaking behavior. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'll still find deniers.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Have there been or are there still Holocaust deniers in NS?

Kustonia, I believe denies the holocaust, and there have been several people like that on the forums. Most of them ultimately earn DOS status though for constant rule-breaking behavior. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'll still find deniers.

Iirc he thinks the numbers are exaggerated, it that it didn't happen. I think ancap utopia denies it.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Kustonia, I believe denies the holocaust, and there have been several people like that on the forums. Most of them ultimately earn DOS status though for constant rule-breaking behavior. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'll still find deniers.

Iirc he thinks the numbers are exaggerated, it that it didn't happen. I think ancap utopia denies it.

Is he even an ancap? I found his posts to be very trollish at best, and very little of his positions are usually associated with libertarianism.

[North German Realm]

Iirc he thinks the numbers are exaggerated, it that it didn't happen. I think ancap utopia denies it.

Is he even an ancap? I found his posts to be very trollish at best, and very little of his positions are usually associated with libertarianism.

Names can be misleading. ACU (As far as I know) does unironically think he's being an anarcho Capitalist. It's his views that are, well, not anarchist either in the progressive social sense or in the stateless political sense (though he is, at least rhetorically, very capitalism)

[Diopolis]

Have there been or are there still Holocaust deniers in NS?

Kustonia, I believe denies the holocaust, and there have been several people like that on the forums. Most of them ultimately earn DOS status though for constant rule-breaking behavior. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'll still find deniers.

There are several posters here who hold doubts about the extent or precise details of the commonly accepted version of the holocaust, but are usually quiet about it.
Any remaining serious ahmedinejad-level holocaust deniers are very quiet about it and on their second or third nations, however- open holocaust denial is automatically considered trolling.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Kustonia, I believe denies the holocaust, and there have been several people like that on the forums. Most of them ultimately earn DOS status though for constant rule-breaking behavior. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'll still find deniers.

There are several posters here who hold doubts about the extent or precise details of the commonly accepted version of the holocaust, but are usually quiet about it.
Any remaining serious ahmedinejad-level holocaust deniers are very quiet about it and on their second or third nations, however- open holocaust denial is automatically considered trolling.

Why? What if someone actually doesn't think the holocaust happened? Is that a for real ruling?

[Fahran]

There is a tradition of kingship in Buddhism that is unfortunately ignored in most Buddhist studies in the West, where the king has a divine mandate to rule according to religious principles. The sacral role of the Buddha is compared with the secular role of the cakravartin throughout the Pāli Canon, and the Aggañña Sutta describes ancient society as organizing spontaneously in a tiered system with a king to judge society because of his merit:

20. ‘Then those beings came together and lamented the arising of these evil things among them: taking what was not given, censuring, lying and punishment. And they thought: “Suppose we were to appoint a certain being who would show anger where anger was due, censure those who deserved it, and banish those who deserved banishment! And in return, we would grant him a share of the rice.” [93] So they went to the one among them who was the handsomest, the best-looking, the most pleasant and capable, and asked him to do this for them in return for a share of the rice, and he agreed.

21. “‘The People’s Choice” is the meaning of Mahā-Sammata, which is the first regular title to be introduced. “Lord Of The Fields” is the meaning of Khattiya, the second such title. And “He Gladdens Others With Dhamma” is the meaning of Raja, the third title to be introduced. This, then, Vāseṭṭha, is the origin of the class of Khattiyas, in accordance with the ancient titles that were introduced for them. They originated among these very same beings, like ourselves, no different, and in accordance with Dhamma, not otherwise.

Some Mahayana schools identified the king with the lord of the cosmos Mahāvairocana.

Clerics and emperors integrated Esoteric teachings into Japan because many of their fundamental tenets proved useful tools in the legitimization of religious and political power. Since the incipient stages of Esoteric teachings in India, the tradition was laden with political overtones. A primary deity in the Esoteric pantheon, Mahāvairocana 大日如来, was associated with benevolent, charismatic leadership, manifested in the cakravartin ( 転輪聖王) ideal, or a universal king who rules ethically and benevolently over the entire world. In Esoteric Buddhist teachings, this concept associates the political ruler in a given region with Mahāvairocana, the ruler of the cosmos.

Unless Queen Elizabeth declares herself Empress of India and converts to Buddhism, I don't think this will ever be of much relevance to the West, but thought it would be interesting for some of our more conservative members here.

I would argue that an analogous perspective of sovereignty existed in the West more or less until the English Civil War in Great Britain and until the great tumults that issued forth from the French Revolution on the European continent - with Russia maintaining the divine right a bit longer. Such a concept emerges relatively early on in what Christians call the Old Testament, with G-d investing earthly power in Shaul HaMelek to placate the Israelites. While G-d himself ostensibly would have preferred the elevation of nominal leaders of similar status to address crises, the scriptures do not shy away from enshrining the king as an absolute sovereign. When David is questioned about resisting or fighting Shaul, he asserts that it would be morally reprehensible for him to resist or kill G-d's chosen one - not that it would be practically impossible. The tradition of the divine right has mostly been obliterated by the advent of liberalism, which would neatly explain why western converts to Buddhism, often people who are looking for a less demanding, "spiritual" path that won't judge their failings, aren't drawn towards the idea of a religious being whose job it is to impose earthly justice and wrath on wrong-doers.

[Sovaal]

And if you abstain from sex, you’re an incel.

Incels, by definition, aren't attempting to abstain from sex.

That's why vocels exist.

I’d say there’s still a difference between the stereotypical incel and someone who just doesn’t get boned despite wanting to be boned.

[Diopolis]

There are several posters here who hold doubts about the extent or precise details of the commonly accepted version of the holocaust, but are usually quiet about it.
Any remaining serious ahmedinejad-level holocaust deniers are very quiet about it and on their second or third nations, however- open holocaust denial is automatically considered trolling.

Why? What if someone actually doesn't think the holocaust happened? Is that a for real ruling?

Yes. I don't know what the precise threshold or rule is, but I have seen posters get banned for claiming that the holocaust was fake and nothing else.

[Fahran]

Yes. I don't know what the precise threshold or rule is, but I have seen posters get banned for claiming that the holocaust was fake and nothing else.

I'm not keen on banning holocaust denial anywhere. I'd much rather post the laundry list of forensic sources I have that prove that it's an objectively silly position for anyone to adopt. Essentially, light is the best disinfectant. That said, most of the people who deny the Holocaust also tend to spam Antisemitic claims as well. Like dead serious blood libels.

I’d say there’s still a difference between the stereotypical incel and someone who just doesn’t get boned despite wanting to be boned.

Anyone who obsesses with their virginity or lack thereof to the point that they give it a special name is probably socially maladjusted, a member of a niche community, or both. Quite a lot of young men remain virgins until their late twenties. They're a sizable minority actually. I think it's like a fifth of men or something like that.

[Diopolis]

Yes. I don't know what the precise threshold or rule is, but I have seen posters get banned for claiming that the holocaust was fake and nothing else.

I'm not keen on banning holocaust denial anywhere. I'd much rather post the laundry list of forensic sources I have that prove that it's an objectively silly position for anyone to adopt. Essentially, light is the best disinfectant. That said, most of the people who deny the Holocaust also tend to spam Antisemitic claims as well. Like dead serious blood libels.

I've seen a ban handed down to a neonazi who believed the jews were inferior(technically within the rules, but difficult to argue without breaking other rules) and that slavs were not indo-europeans(again, within the rules, but objectively wrong) solely for arguing the holocaust never happened. He had somehow managed to avoid breaking any other rules.
Holocaust denial is one of the few explicitly banned arguments on NSG.