Right Wing Discussion Thread XIV: Join the Friendkorps

[Sicaris]

Shut up - all of you shut up right now...

What was, in hindsight, the lowest moment in your political ideals?

For me, it was either that time I was an anarcho-capitalist, or when I was a free market republican who swore that the democrats were the real racists.

Lmao

My lowest point was when I was younger and an anarchist.

It was funny.

[Nea Byzantia]

That is why you should never be a ruler. Any ruler who does not serve the people they rule should be removed.

Well then almost every leader in human history and every human leader today should be removed according to this logic.

Also, not everyone's needs have intrinsic value. Maybe.

The Enlightenment idea that it is possible to distill the will of the People and then rule according to those principles is a fantasy. Aristotle and Plato figured this out 2,500 years ago. Democracies and/or Republics always degrade themselves into Oligarchies, where Wealth and Influence determine social position and influence. However, such a system lacks any transcendental legitimacy; the highest Good in such a society is Money, and there is more to life than Money. As such, the only Political System that acknowledges the Transcendent in its political philosophy, and is capable of restraining the rapacity and greed of Oligarchy, is Monarchy/Autocracy. This is why that system of Government has been applied in practically every society around the world at one time or another. A Monarch or Autocrat doesn't have to be a King or Emperor per se, not de jure, anyway. Rulers like Putin or Assad will not be crowning themselves Tsars or Sultans anytime soon, but the underlying ideology that guides their reigns, reflects Monarchy/Autocracy - the desire to stabilize and hold together the Nation; and fend off the rapacious International Oligarchy. This is as I said earlier, a fairly universal idea up until the Enlightenment.

[Nea Byzantia]

Shut up - all of you shut up right now...

What was, in hindsight, the lowest moment in your political ideals?

For me, it was either that time I was an anarcho-capitalist, or when I was a free market republican who swore that the democrats were the real racists.

My Libertarian phase was pretty bad...mostly because it didn't square well with my underlying religious beliefs...was driving myself mad trying to harmonize the two...then you discover that people actually had political philosophy prior to the Renaissance, and the World opens up to you.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

Shut up - all of you shut up right now...

What was, in hindsight, the lowest moment in your political ideals?

For me, it was either that time I was an anarcho-capitalist, or when I was a free market republican who swore that the democrats were the real racists.

The lowest moment in my political ideals was when I was vaguely left-libertarian, out of misplaced optimism regarding the human condition and the belief that all persons would understand the Good without the need for strong state intervention.

I'm still embarrased by Middle-School!Me.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Shut up - all of you shut up right now...

What was, in hindsight, the lowest moment in your political ideals?

For me, it was either that time I was an anarcho-capitalist, or when I was a free market republican who swore that the democrats were the real racists.

My Libertarian phase was pretty bad...mostly because it didn't square well with my underlying religious beliefs...was driving myself mad trying to harmonize the two...then you discover that people actually had political philosophy prior to the Renaissance, and the World opens up to you.

Lol that was me when I was younger. I took a seriously liberal, heretical interpretation of my religion mostly so I wouldn't feel "bad" about myself. AlHamdulillah I wised up.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Question for the friendkorps

How would you define right wing politics in as few words as possible?

Either:

A.) Money, Military, Religion

OR

B.) Money, Freedom, Individualism

B sounds more left-wing

[Nea Byzantia]

Question for the friendkorps

How would you define right wing politics in as few words as possible?

Monarchy, Religion, Army...the other "Conservatives" are just clinging to an older form of Liberalism.

[Trumptonium1]

Shut up - all of you shut up right now...

What was, in hindsight, the lowest moment in your political ideals?

For me, it was either that time I was an anarcho-capitalist, or when I was a free market republican who swore that the democrats were the real racists.

When I was a european federalist.

God.

[Trumptonium1]

Question for the friendkorps

How would you define right wing politics in as few words as possible?

"Stopping the bullshit"

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

Question for the friendkorps

How would you define right wing politics in as few words as possible?

Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable; hierarchy and inequality may be viewed as natural results of traditional social differences or the competition in market economies.

[Firaxin]

Shut up - all of you shut up right now...

What was, in hindsight, the lowest moment in your political ideals?

For me, it was either that time I was an anarcho-capitalist, or when I was a free market republican who swore that the democrats were the real racists.

A year ago, I was practically an actual fascist. Thanks to NSG and some Jesus, I matured. Thanks, by the way, NSG.

[Sicaris]

Either:

A.) Money, Military, Religion

OR

B.) Money, Freedom, Individualism

B sounds more left-wing

B was the Right-Libertarian part.

[Sicaris]

Shut up - all of you shut up right now...

What was, in hindsight, the lowest moment in your political ideals?

For me, it was either that time I was an anarcho-capitalist, or when I was a free market republican who swore that the democrats were the real racists.

When I was a european federalist.

God.

Oh good lord

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Question for the friendkorps

How would you define right wing politics in as few words as possible?

Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable; hierarchy and inequality may be viewed as natural results of traditional social differences or the competition in market economies.

Hierachies ARE an inevitability of human life.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable; hierarchy and inequality may be viewed as natural results of traditional social differences or the competition in market economies.

Hierachies ARE an inevitability of human life.

Perhaps, but it’s important to remember that “not all hierarchies are created equal”, so to speak. A hierarchical system must be just in order to be desirable. Slavery, for example, is a hierarchical system that is unjust and inhumane, and is thus to be avoided by a benevolent state.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

In contrast, left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy; it typically involves a concern for those in society whom its adherents perceive as disadvantaged relative to others as well as a belief that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished.

As such, centrism is thus a political outlook or specific position that involves acceptance or support of a balance of a degree of social equality and a degree of social hierarchy, while opposing political changes which would result in a significant shift of society strongly to either the left or the right.

Do my definitions make sense? I apologize if they don't; I don't wish to cause any trouble.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Shut up - all of you shut up right now...

What was, in hindsight, the lowest moment in your political ideals?

For me, it was either that time I was an anarcho-capitalist, or when I was a free market republican who swore that the democrats were the real racists.

At one point in the early 2010s I was an economic Blairite, an arch social liberal and had just started doing a gender studies PhD.

Top Ten Anime Heel-Face Turns

[Free Arabian Nation]

Shut up - all of you shut up right now...

What was, in hindsight, the lowest moment in your political ideals?

For me, it was either that time I was an anarcho-capitalist, or when I was a free market republican who swore that the democrats were the real racists.

When I was like 3, and a Muslim, I believed in a great Muslim Theocracy spanning all the Earth where all people live under the grace of Allah and loved and cared for each other...

Then I grew up and realized that it's Utopian at best

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

Shut up - all of you shut up right now...

What was, in hindsight, the lowest moment in your political ideals?

For me, it was either that time I was an anarcho-capitalist, or when I was a free market republican who swore that the democrats were the real racists.

When I was like 3, and a Muslim, I believed in a great Muslim Theocracy spanning all the Earth where all people live under the grace of Allah and loved and cared for each other...

Then I grew up and realized that it's Utopian at best

Oh dear, I don't even like to think about my political stances when I was in elementary school... suffice it to say, I was even more of an embarrassment back then. I apologize.

[Trumptonium1]

When I was a european federalist.

God.

Oh good lord

Yes that's how I look back on it as well.

[Free Arabian Nation]

When I was like 3, and a Muslim, I believed in a great Muslim Theocracy spanning all the Earth where all people live under the grace of Allah and loved and cared for each other...

Then I grew up and realized that it's Utopian at best

Oh dear, I don't even like to think about my political stances when I was in elementary school... suffice it to say, I was even more of an embarrassment back then. I apologize.

Eh, kids will be kids. Kids have this usually warped view on how the world works. I mean, up until I was 8, I thought 9/11 was an accident because I thought men couldn't be that evil.

I'm smarter now though and realize that a global caliphate would suck for most of the Earth (and me, seeing how I am now Ex-Muslim)

[Free Arabian Nation]

Oh good lord

Yes that's how I look back on it as well.

You? A Euro Fed?

Dear god

[Trumptonium1]

Yes that's how I look back on it as well.

You? A Euro Fed?

Dear god

A lot of people go through the "we're bigger together phase"

Plus some irrational hard-on for competing with the Chinese/Indians/Americans.

And then you've reached the result.

[Nea Byzantia]

You? A Euro Fed?

Dear god

A lot of people go through the "we're bigger together phase"

Plus some irrational hard-on for competing with the Chinese/Indians/Americans.

And then you've reached the result.

Personally, I was never a fan of the Eurocracy...but I'm Greek and Italian by origin, so I have my biases.

[Free Arabian Nation]

You? A Euro Fed?

Dear god

A lot of people go through the "we're bigger together phase"

Plus some irrational hard-on for competing with the Chinese/Indians/Americans.

And then you've reached the result.

... Well, I mean. Competing with T-Series and the Commies is a good reason to unite.