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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:03 pm

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Not like """community requisition""" has already happened to my maternal family or anything...

Clearly they were bourgeois.


Maybe when my great-grandfather was still alive (he had employees), but otherwise, they were effectively proletariat.

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Postby Diopolis » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:10 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:So, on a more serious note, what would be the best political system to promote and protect Right-Wing Conservative values? I'm just curious as to what everybody else thinks. Personally, I'd say Monarchy, entwined with a strong Church ( an Absolute Monarchy that is a Confessional State), but what does everyone else think? I've only recently come onto this forum, so I'm curious as to where people stand.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:13 pm

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Nea Byzantia wrote:So, on a more serious note, what would be the best political system to promote and protect Right-Wing Conservative values? I'm just curious as to what everybody else thinks. Personally, I'd say Monarchy, entwined with a strong Church ( an Absolute Monarchy that is a Confessional State), but what does everyone else think? I've only recently come onto this forum, so I'm curious as to where people stand.

A highly stratified society with severely limited suffrage, a powerful church, a strong monarchy, and limits on the Bourgeoisie, especially the Jews.

I'm gonna' say no to the last two items.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:15 pm

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Nea Byzantia wrote:So, on a more serious note, what would be the best political system to promote and protect Right-Wing Conservative values? I'm just curious as to what everybody else thinks. Personally, I'd say Monarchy, entwined with a strong Church ( an Absolute Monarchy that is a Confessional State), but what does everyone else think? I've only recently come onto this forum, so I'm curious as to where people stand.

A highly stratified society with severely limited suffrage, a powerful church, a strong monarchy, and limits on the Bourgeoisie, especially the Jews.


Yeah

Uh

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Postby Diopolis » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:15 pm

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Hrythingland wrote:Your anarchism relies on violence for its establishment though. It will rely on someone having a monopoly of force to prevent those who would prevent anarchism. It is such a flawed and naïve outlook. Especially any sort of communal anarchism where everything is shared out and distributed. I can tell you now, whenever the poor sod tasked with relieving me of my house, land, surplus wealth comes onto my drive, I will take my side-by-side barrel and blow his sorry head open. Quite right too. But now I need to be punished do I not?


Y'know, I'm really not gonna bother taking this seriously if you keep saying shit like, "oh those dirty little Anarkiddies are gonna steal my house!!1!" as if it's actually something relevant to Anarchism.

Whatever low-down horse thief comes to take my productive property has a fight on his hands, I guarantee it.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:16 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:So, on a more serious note, what would be the best political system to promote and protect Right-Wing Conservative values? I'm just curious as to what everybody else thinks. Personally, I'd say Monarchy, entwined with a strong Church ( an Absolute Monarchy that is a Confessional State), but what does everyone else think? I've only recently come onto this forum, so I'm curious as to where people stand.

A highly stratified society with severely limited suffrage, a powerful church, a strong monarchy, and limits on the Bourgeoisie, especially the Jews.

Why are the Jews bad?
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Postby Diopolis » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:20 pm

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Diopolis wrote:A highly stratified society with severely limited suffrage, a powerful church, a strong monarchy, and limits on the Bourgeoisie, especially the Jews.

Why are the Jews bad?

Jewish influence is usually far worse than the native bourgeousie; Jews have historically been at or towards the forefront of social liberalism, often constituted a fifth column in the societies which host them, and tend disproportionately to predominate in media and suchlike. The presence of a parallel nation with little investment in the common culture because they are separate from it is bad news.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:23 pm

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The South Falls wrote:Why are the Jews bad?

Jewish influence is usually far worse than the native bourgeousie; Jews have historically been at or towards the forefront of social liberalism, often constituted a fifth column in the societies which host them, and tend disproportionately to predominate in media and suchlike. The presence of a parallel nation with little investment in the common culture because they are separate from it is bad news.

What I'm reading is that because Jews predominantly (unsourcedly) lean left, and because leftists are bad, Jews are bad. Also, another unsourced claim about constituting a fifth column. Many Jews do have positons in the media.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:07 pm

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The South Falls wrote:Why are the Jews bad?

Jewish influence is usually far worse than the native bourgeousie; Jews have historically been at or towards the forefront of social liberalism, often constituted a fifth column in the societies which host them, and tend disproportionately to predominate in media and suchlike. The presence of a parallel nation with little investment in the common culture because they are separate from it is bad news.


>MFW Strasserism-levels of anti-Semitism

You're not exactly wrong that Jewish people hold a disproportionate amount of influence in relation to their numbers in the Western World, but I don't think persecuting them is gonna solve anything

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Postby Confederate States of German America » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:16 pm

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Diopolis wrote:Jewish influence is usually far worse than the native bourgeousie; Jews have historically been at or towards the forefront of social liberalism, often constituted a fifth column in the societies which host them, and tend disproportionately to predominate in media and suchlike. The presence of a parallel nation with little investment in the common culture because they are separate from it is bad news.


>MFW Strasserism-levels of anti-Semitism

You're not exactly wrong that Jewish people hold a disproportionate amount of influence in relation to their numbers in the Western World, but I don't think persecuting them is gonna solve anything


If the intermarriage and fertility statistics are right, they may be removing themselves.
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>MFW Strasserism-levels of anti-Semitism

You're not exactly wrong that Jewish people hold a disproportionate amount of influence in relation to their numbers in the Western World, but I don't think persecuting them is gonna solve anything


If the intermarriage and fertility statistics are right, they may be removing themselves.

:?: Are they marrying outside of their ethnicity that much?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:21 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
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>MFW Strasserism-levels of anti-Semitism

You're not exactly wrong that Jewish people hold a disproportionate amount of influence in relation to their numbers in the Western World, but I don't think persecuting them is gonna solve anything


If the intermarriage and fertility statistics are right, they may be removing themselves.


In that case, it certainly sounds like the solution is to sit down and patiently wait.

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Postby Confederate States of German America » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:34 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
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If the intermarriage and fertility statistics are right, they may be removing themselves.


In that case, it certainly sounds like the solution is to sit down and patiently wait.


Probably not, the assurance of an ultimately resolution to an issue does not bode for inaction regardless.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:36 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
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In that case, it certainly sounds like the solution is to sit down and patiently wait.


Probably not, the assurance of an ultimately resolution to an issue does not bode for inaction regardless.


There's not exactly much actions that isn't blatant anti-semitism that one can do, though.

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Postby Confederate States of German America » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:37 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
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Probably not, the assurance of an ultimately resolution to an issue does not bode for inaction regardless.


There's not exactly much actions that isn't blatant anti-semitism that one can do, though.


We're Rightist, that's just a part of the game. Hell, the Chinese openly use White Supremacy claims against the Canadians.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:40 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
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There's not exactly much actions that isn't blatant anti-semitism that one can do, though.


We're Rightist, that's just a part of the game. Hell, the Chinese openly use White Supremacy claims against the Canadians.


You do present a fair point, and that is that both the left and the right will repeatedly fling almost apocryphal accusations of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, etc... at eachother in an ungodly amount of forms and interpretations.

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Postby Confederate States of German America » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:48 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
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We're Rightist, that's just a part of the game. Hell, the Chinese openly use White Supremacy claims against the Canadians.


You do present a fair point, and that is that both the left and the right will repeatedly fling almost apocryphal accusations of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, etc... at eachother in an ungodly amount of forms and interpretations.


One obvious move: require private institutions (Looking at you, Ivy Leagues) that accept federal funds to have at least a third of their student body be Pell-eligible.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:52 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Diopolis wrote:A highly stratified society with severely limited suffrage, a powerful church, a strong monarchy, and limits on the Bourgeoisie, especially the Jews.

Why are the Jews bad?

They aren’t, but someone’s gotta have a scapegoat for the worlds ills and the center of a number of conspiracies.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:54 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
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You do present a fair point, and that is that both the left and the right will repeatedly fling almost apocryphal accusations of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, etc... at eachother in an ungodly amount of forms and interpretations.


One obvious move: require private institutions (Looking at you, Ivy Leagues) that accept federal funds to have at least a third of their student body be Pell-eligible.


"Pell-eligible"?

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Why are the Jews bad?

They aren’t, but someone’s gotta have a scapegoat for the worlds ills and the center of a number of conspiracies.


We could always blame the Masons, despite 'em doin' literally nothing wrong.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:56 pm

Diopolis wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Why are the Jews bad?

Jewish influence is usually far worse than the native bourgeousie; Jews have historically been at or towards the forefront of social liberalism, often constituted a fifth column in the societies which host them, and tend disproportionately to predominate in media and suchlike. The presence of a parallel nation with little investment in the common culture because they are separate from it is bad news.

I applaud the Jewish community for their success despite the vitriol directed at them. The rest of us should learn to be as clever and hardworking.
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Postby Confederate States of German America » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:57 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:"Pell-eligible"?


Basically American college students fill out a FAFSA form and it determines how much federal financial aid they qualify and, by extension, state and institutional. Pell Grants are one of the main forms of aid, and generally go to the bottom economic tier of students.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:00 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Jewish influence is usually far worse than the native bourgeousie; Jews have historically been at or towards the forefront of social liberalism, often constituted a fifth column in the societies which host them, and tend disproportionately to predominate in media and suchlike. The presence of a parallel nation with little investment in the common culture because they are separate from it is bad news.

I applaud the Jewish community for their success despite the vitriol directed at them. The rest of us should learn to be as clever and hardworking.


Their seeds of success was ironically planted during a time where they were persecuted and excluded from just about everything...except money lending, which Christians could not do.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:04 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I applaud the Jewish community for their success despite the vitriol directed at them. The rest of us should learn to be as clever and hardworking.


Their seeds of success was ironically planted during a time where they were persecuted and excluded from just about everything...except money lending, which Christians could not do.

I'm tempted to call it a generational talent, but us Christians have reaped what we've sown.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:09 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
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Their seeds of success was ironically planted during a time where they were persecuted and excluded from just about everything...except money lending, which Christians could not do.

I'm tempted to call it a generational talent, but us Christians have reaped what we've sown.


Their religion permitted lending money to people of other religions (while Christianity prohibited that), and when the only profession with any sort of influence that you were allowed to practice was the handling and manipulation of money...

It makes perfect sense for it to eventually become a generational skill, and acquire wealth and influence that is blatantly disproportionate in relation to their relatively small numbers.

All because of prejudice and religious rules.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:37 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:So, on a more serious note, what would be the best political system to promote and protect Right-Wing Conservative values? I'm just curious as to what everybody else thinks. Personally, I'd say Monarchy, entwined with a strong Church ( an Absolute Monarchy that is a Confessional State), but what does everyone else think? I've only recently come onto this forum, so I'm curious as to where people stand.

A highly stratified society with severely limited suffrage, a powerful church, a strong monarchy, and limits on the Bourgeoisie, especially the Jews.

My English is not good enough to say no hard enough.
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