Right Wing Discussion Thread XIV: Join the Friendkorps

[Novus America]

After the Great Purge that happened yesterday, I'm going to refrain from posting on NSG. Truth be told, I'm kind of disgusted at myself for some of the things I've posted before on here, this place feels like a swamp that brings out the worst in everyone. I won't be leaving the site, but I won't be posting on this side of the forum anymore. There's no fun discussions anymore, and most of the people I enjoy talking to either don't post anymore, have left the forum, or are on Gameside.

Adios and may you all have a happy 2019.

I did not always agree with you, but you did bring in an interesting viewpoint that will be missed.
I cannot blame you. I left a while, only recently came back and am considering leaving again.

People get banned for mild infractions while some of the worst offenders get ignored.
Moderation here is certainly lacking. It is arbitrary and inconsistent at best.

[West Leas Oros 2]

After the Great Purge that happened yesterday, I'm going to refrain from posting on NSG. Truth be told, I'm kind of disgusted at myself for some of the things I've posted before on here, this place feels like a swamp that brings out the worst in everyone. I won't be leaving the site, but I won't be posting on this side of the forum anymore. There's no fun discussions anymore, and most of the people I enjoy talking to either don't post anymore, have left the forum, or are on Gameside.

Adios and may you all have a happy 2019.

Sometimes I fear being deat’d again. I’m almost afraid to be on the forums sometimes.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

As a matter of fact the raping and pillaging was not only not condemned, it was celebrated with a badge designed by Himmler himself. If you spent 20 days raping and pillaging the Soviet countryside you got this thing to pin on your chest. If you had spent the whole of 150 days doing nothing but that you got the gold version.

Ctrl+F " R A P E " 0 results found... Hmm... Still, an interesting badge.

I would post a jibe meme about how there were no rapes in the Rape of Nanking accompanied by a picture of Baghdad Bob but I'm a kind person so.

[Trumptonium1]

Disproportionate is the key part here.

A disproportionate number of Jews were scientists and military officers.

Sure there were a substantial number of communists who were Jews.
But if you just went after Communists you would get the communist Jews as well.
Ignoring morals you could logically justify that.

But without killing and exiling some of your most useful people to countries you planned on going to war with. That still makes no sense at all.

I don't see how that is relevant.

I'm not saying I agree, I'm saying that it's not difficult to understand the background to the sentiment. Germans who weren't ultranationalists saw their country come to the brink of destruction in a communist revolution led predominantly by Jews -- as did Russians and Poles. It isn't hence outlandish to - in an era without free information courtesy of the internet - think of Jews as the source of communism, or at least the main propagators.

[Trumptonium1]

People get banned for mild infractions while some of the worst offenders get ignored.
Moderation here is certainly lacking. It is arbitrary and inconsistent at best.

No the issue is political bias. Some people with blue flags get away with murder while others get deleted for throwing a banana skin on the pavement.

[Diopolis]

People get banned for mild infractions while some of the worst offenders get ignored.
Moderation here is certainly lacking. It is arbitrary and inconsistent at best.

No the issue is political bias. Some people with blue flags get away with murder while others get deleted for throwing a banana skin on the pavement.

I feel obligated to point out here that I'm a legitimate contender for the most right wing poster on the forums, and I have gotten away with a slap on the wrist for things others would be DOS for- including a fair number of liberals.
Anyways, this is not the point of discussion in the RDWT, so new subject. I for one can't wait for Trump to declare an emergency and form a dictatorship. You?

[Trumptonium1]

Turns out when you forbid a group of people from doing anything other than skilled tertiary industry work for generations upon generations, they create a subculture in which the virtues for skilled tertiary industry work are emphasized and families establish the internal infrastructure to train new generations of skilled tertiary workers.

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

Indeed.
Ironically by excluding Jews from the argricultural sector Medieval Europe forced them into sectors considered undesirable at the time but that actually turned out to be more prosperous and useful in the post agricultural economy of the Renaissance onwards.

Actually discrimination helped make Jews disproportionately wealthy and educated in one of the greatest ironic twists in history.

And then Europeans decide to blame Jews, for the results of the Jewsish people adapting to being persecuted.

This is a very German-centric viewpoint.

France outright banned Jews until the Revolution with mixed results, while Britain expulsed them and allowed the small numbers left to remain before 'legalising' Jews around the time of the French Revolution (or even after Napoleonic Wars, I don't remember my history is crap.)

Spain banned Jews like France but with effective results, and there weren't any. Of Ashkenazi Jews, roughly two in five were Polish, one third were Russian, a quarter German and the remainder scattered. Jews in Russia were kept in grinding poverty like almost all Russians, although civil rights were gradually restricted in reverse of West Europe's emancipation from 1790s. Over time they moved to Shtetls to isolate themselves, and in every larger shtetl a 'ruling class' emerged, which by Russian metrics means you could travel and read. In Poland conditions were better, but just like in Russia the Jews were slightly worse off than the natives in a country already marked by poverty, with the exception of major cities. In either case, Jews were not restricted from employment/university/education/housing/justice whatever. This was a purely German phenomenon -- only Germany kept its Jews while simultaneously fucking them.

From what I remember regarding Ben-Gurion's and Golda Meir's memoirs, both mentioned that there was a severe educational and wealth disparity between the three main Ashkenazi groups based on nationality, and even larger disparities for Sephardim/Mizrahi ones. Although it's important to remember that Jewish banking dynasties (all German) bankrolled German Jews, often financing aliyah and kibbutzes, schools, universities and pretty much the entire city of Haifa (mainly settled by German Jews). So the life of the average German Jew is hard to imagine.

[Torrocca]

Fucking lol. I would ask what evidence you have to prove that isn't just some crackpot conspiracy theory, but I know that you won't provide any, so I won't.

I'm just referring to the german bolsheviks.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter whether or not a country that's having war crimes committed against it had to be a signatory of the Geneva Convention for them to count as war crimes.

STATES PARTIES	SIGNATURE	RATIFICATION / ACCESSION	RESERVATION / DECLARATION
Germany	Never	03.09.1954	03.12.1954 & 03.03.1975

I cannot say if I know this for sure either, but germany did not sign onto the 3rd convention which directly dealt with civilian protectionism in warfare (even though they did sign the first two).

Who gives a fuck? They still committed war crimes regardless of whether or not they were signatories.

Gee, it's almost like they decided not to after the Nazis chose not to first by invading the various countries of the USSR and slaughtering people indiscriminately all the way up to Moscow and Stalingrad.Ah, yes, I totally remember when the USSR oppressed Nazi Germany by invading almost the entirety of Eastern Europe to wage a genocidal war of extermination against non-German ethnicities, primarily the Jews and the Slavs. Hey, wait a minute... nah, Operation Barbarossa, Lebensraum, etc. don't real.

Irreverent, you've already forgot the first point I brought up when mentioning USSR's intervention in Germany. USSR shot first, the victimized Nazis' took military action against their oppressors.

Ah, yeah, I'm fucking certain that you have verifiable, unbiased, factually-correct sources to prove that the USSR some-fucking-how attacked Nazi Germany with Jewish people.

... Except for the whole part where Stalin issued an order to prevent exactly that and the Red Army punished rapists when they could, whereas it was a given policy of the Third Reich for its footsoldiers to freely rape their way across Eastern Europe, to the point that brothels of enslaved Slavic women were being created en-masse for the Nazi troops.

Classic soviet apologetic, literally propaganda so common it's found on Wikipedia. Historical revisionists like yourself will point to orders made in 19 January 1945 and 20 April 1945 in attempt to hide what happened in Berlin,

Show us where I said that the rapes never happened, and prove that these orders were mere propaganda and not designed specifically to stop the rapes.

but the starved and famished soviet mind always leads them to forgetting that 3 years of warfare took place on German territory and it's allies.

Lol what the fuck, the Soviets didn't even break into Germany until the beginning of 1945.

You ever just like justify the potential genocide of hundreds of millions of people because some Commies running a socialist state did some mean things a couple of times? Because that's this post.

This is why we play devils advocate, everyone deserves a fair say, otherwise we might just as well abolish truth and justice.

Lol nah, fuck that noise. And fuck this stupid fucking pro-Nazi conspiracy bullshit you're peddling as well, more importantly.

[Novus America]

Indeed.
Ironically by excluding Jews from the argricultural sector Medieval Europe forced them into sectors considered undesirable at the time but that actually turned out to be more prosperous and useful in the post agricultural economy of the Renaissance onwards.

Actually discrimination helped make Jews disproportionately wealthy and educated in one of the greatest ironic twists in history.

And then Europeans decide to blame Jews, for the results of the Jewsish people adapting to being persecuted.

This is a very German-centric viewpoint.

France outright banned Jews until the Revolution with mixed results, while Britain expulsed them and allowed the small numbers left to remain before 'legalising' Jews around the time of the French Revolution (or even after Napoleonic Wars, I don't remember my history is crap.)

Spain banned Jews like France but with effective results, and there weren't any. Of Ashkenazi Jews, roughly two in five were Polish, one third were Russian, a quarter German and the remainder scattered. Jews in Russia were kept in grinding poverty like almost all Russians, although civil rights were gradually restricted in reverse of West Europe's emancipation from 1790s. Over time they moved to Shtetls to isolate themselves, and in every larger shtetl a 'ruling class' emerged, which by Russian metrics means you could travel and read. In Poland conditions were better, but just like in Russia the Jews were slightly worse off than the natives in a country already marked by poverty, with the exception of major cities. In either case, Jews were not restricted from employment/university/education/housing/justice whatever. This was a purely German phenomenon -- only Germany kept its Jews while simultaneously fucking them.

From what I remember regarding Ben-Gurion's and Golda Meir's memoirs, both mentioned that there was a severe educational and wealth disparity between the three main Ashkenazi groups based on nationality, and even larger disparities for Sephardim/Mizrahi ones. Although it's important to remember that Jewish banking dynasties (all German) bankrolled German Jews, often financing aliyah and kibbutzes, schools, universities and pretty much the entire city of Haifa (mainly settled by German Jews). So the life of the average German Jew is hard to imagine.

Well sure it is primarily based on the German perspective because German Jews are the ones we are talking about in regards to Nazi Germany.

[Novus America]

A disproportionate number of Jews were scientists and military officers.

Sure there were a substantial number of communists who were Jews.
But if you just went after Communists you would get the communist Jews as well.
Ignoring morals you could logically justify that.

But without killing and exiling some of your most useful people to countries you planned on going to war with. That still makes no sense at all.

I don't see how that is relevant.

I'm not saying I agree, I'm saying that it's not difficult to understand the background to the sentiment. Germans who weren't ultranationalists saw their country come to the brink of destruction in a communist revolution led predominantly by Jews -- as did Russians and Poles. It isn't hence outlandish to - in an era without free information courtesy of the internet - think of Jews as the source of communism, or at least the main propagators.

Regardless it was still patently stupid. I am not debating the fact that yes many people were and are extremely stupid.

It is relevant in that the belief was still stupid and self destructive.

[Bienenhalde]

I feel obligated to point out here that I'm a legitimate contender for the most right wing poster on the forums, and I have gotten away with a slap on the wrist for things others would be DOS for- including a fair number of liberals.
Anyways, this is not the point of discussion in the RDWT, so new subject. I for one can't wait for Trump to declare an emergency and form a dictatorship. You?

The Trump presidency is bad enough as it is. The last think we need is to give him absolute dictatorial power.

[Benuty]

After yesterdays events I cannot in good conscience remain active on NSG, but I first have some unfinished business to deal with. I hope you all that I have come to know over the years find your ways in this future. I will remain on NSG for a little while longer to conclude a few things, and then withdraw from it, but for those of you on the various discords....be seeing you a lot soon.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

After the Great Purge that happened yesterday, I'm going to refrain from posting on NSG. Truth be told, I'm kind of disgusted at myself for some of the things I've posted before on here, this place feels like a swamp that brings out the worst in everyone. I won't be leaving the site, but I won't be posting on this side of the forum anymore. There's no fun discussions anymore, and most of the people I enjoy talking to either don't post anymore, have left the forum, or are on Gameside.

Adios and may you all have a happy 2019.

السَّلامُ عَلَيْكُم وَرَحْمَةٌ اللَّهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
Assalaamu 'Alaikum wa RaHmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah SWT be upon you.

After yesterdays events I cannot in good conscience remain active on NSG, but I first have some unfinished business to deal with. I hope you all that I have come to know over the years find your ways in this future. I will remain on NSG for a little while longer to conclude a few things, and then withdraw from it, but for those of you on the various discords....be seeing you a lot soon.

I'm in a bunch of servers. If you're interested you can send me a TG. If not, السَّلامُ عَلَيْكُم وَرَحْمَةٌ اللَّهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ

[Dresderstan]

After yesterdays events I cannot in good conscience remain active on NSG, but I first have some unfinished business to deal with. I hope you all that I have come to know over the years find your ways in this future. I will remain on NSG for a little while longer to conclude a few things, and then withdraw from it, but for those of you on the various discords....be seeing you a lot soon.

Oh come on not you too!

[Willaura]

Haha.

Don't see how that is funny, but alright...

It's funny because it's mostly a joke, and Jews have committed far worse atrocities, yet we are meant to bend over and eat their shit when we criticise them, even think of denying the holocaust, or anything similar.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Don't see how that is funny, but alright...

It's funny because it's mostly a joke, and Jews have committed far worse atrocities, yet we are meant to bend over and eat their shit when we criticise them, even think of denying the holocaust, or anything similar.

If you bring up blood matzo do I win $20?

[Willaura]

It's funny because it's mostly a joke, and Jews have committed far worse atrocities, yet we are meant to bend over and eat their shit when we criticise them, even think of denying the holocaust, or anything similar.

If you bring up blood matzo do I win $20?

Blood matzo is a retarded meme

[Torrocca]

Don't see how that is funny, but alright...

It's funny because it's mostly a joke, and Jews have committed far worse atrocities

What in the ever-loving fuck is worse than creating an industrialized, systematic genocide that mercilessly slaughters some 17 million people while also starting and fighting a six-year long world war that kills 70 million people?

[Willaura]

It's funny because it's mostly a joke, and Jews have committed far worse atrocities

What in the ever-loving fuck is worse than creating an industrialized, systematic genocide that mercilessly slaughters some 17 million people while also starting and fighting a six-year long world war that kills 70 million people?

"slaughters some 17 million people"

[Dresderstan]

It's funny because it's mostly a joke, and Jews have committed far worse atrocities

What in the ever-loving fuck is worse than creating an industrialized, systematic genocide that mercilessly slaughters some 17 million people while also starting and fighting a six-year long world war that kills 70 million people?

Nuclear genocide.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

It's funny because it's mostly a joke, and Jews have committed far worse atrocities

What in the ever-loving fuck is worse than creating an industrialized, systematic genocide that mercilessly slaughters some 17 million people while also starting and fighting a six-year long world war that kills 70 million people?

Somehow a death sentence imposed 2,000 years ago on a Jewish preacher is worse than all the crimes in the world and this "sin" is inheritable.

[Torrocca]

What in the ever-loving fuck is worse than creating an industrialized, systematic genocide that mercilessly slaughters some 17 million people while also starting and fighting a six-year long world war that kills 70 million people?

"slaughters some 17 million people"

Jews weren't the only people killed in the Holocaust, hunny.

What in the ever-loving fuck is worse than creating an industrialized, systematic genocide that mercilessly slaughters some 17 million people while also starting and fighting a six-year long world war that kills 70 million people?

Nuclear genocide.

Okay, but when have Jewish people ever done that?

What in the ever-loving fuck is worse than creating an industrialized, systematic genocide that mercilessly slaughters some 17 million people while also starting and fighting a six-year long world war that kills 70 million people?

Somehow a death sentence imposed 2,000 years ago on a Jewish preacher is worse than all the crimes in the world and this "sin" is inheritable.

>TFW Jesus died to wipe away humanity's sins therefore the Jews are natural-born sinners and thus deserving of being genocided

[Four Truths]

What in the ever-loving fuck is worse than creating an industrialized, systematic genocide that mercilessly slaughters some 17 million people while also starting and fighting a six-year long world war that kills 70 million people?

"slaughters some 17 million people"

Gypsies, slavs, etc.

[Northern Davincia]

What in the ever-loving fuck is worse than creating an industrialized, systematic genocide that mercilessly slaughters some 17 million people while also starting and fighting a six-year long world war that kills 70 million people?

Nuclear genocide.

Hold your horses, Posadas.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

>TFW Jesus died to wipe away humanity's sins therefore the Jews are natural-born sinners and thus deserving of being genocided

TFW the Jewish deicide was official Catholic dogma until the 60's.