Right Wing Discussion Thread XIV: Join the Friendkorps

[Washington Resistance Army]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2152027/china-takes-surveillance-new-heights-flock-robotic-doves-do-they

Just when you think the PRC can't get any more bananas...

What are various people's thoughts on the emergence of different types of modern digital surveillance states, be it the less obtrusive and less efficient American style or the much more invasive Chinese one?

I'd argue our systems are equally invasive tbh, we're just a bit more discrete about it than China.

[Autarkheia]

I would find it funny if this thread started defending China and praising it for its moral virtue.

[Senkaku]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2152027/china-takes-surveillance-new-heights-flock-robotic-doves-do-they

Just when you think the PRC can't get any more bananas...

What are various people's thoughts on the emergence of different types of modern digital surveillance states, be it the less obtrusive and less efficient American style or the much more invasive Chinese one?

I'd argue our systems are equally invasive tbh, we're just a bit more discrete about it than China.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2152027/china-takes-surveillance-new-heights-flock-robotic-doves-do-they

Just when you think the PRC can't get any more bananas...

What are various people's thoughts on the emergence of different types of modern digital surveillance states, be it the less obtrusive and less efficient American style or the much more invasive Chinese one?

What makes you think that the Chinese style is any more invasive than the American one?

...I mean, what do you know about the Chinese model? Wi-fi sniffers and mandatory phone surveillance apps, all-pervasive facial recognition cameras, spies assigned to individual households, biometric data harvesting, huge predictive platforms... the Chinese definitely have better intelligence and use it a lot more than we do. It's not quite as bad outside Xinjiang, but they still outdo us considerably.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I'd argue our systems are equally invasive tbh, we're just a bit more discrete about it than China.

What makes you think that the Chinese style is any more invasive than the American one?

...I mean, what do you know about the Chinese model? Wi-fi sniffers and mandatory phone surveillance apps, all-pervasive facial recognition cameras, spies assigned to individual households, biometric data harvesting, huge predictive platforms... the Chinese definitely have better intelligence and use it a lot more than we do. It's not quite as bad outside Xinjiang, but they still outdo us considerably.

Some of that stuff is also what the US does.

[Senkaku]

...I mean, what do you know about the Chinese model? Wi-fi sniffers and mandatory phone surveillance apps, all-pervasive facial recognition cameras, spies assigned to individual households, biometric data harvesting, huge predictive platforms... the Chinese definitely have better intelligence and use it a lot more than we do. It's not quite as bad outside Xinjiang, but they still outdo us considerably.

Some of that stuff is also what the US does.

https://www.economist.com/briefing/2018 ... e-no-other

There's really no equation to be made here, except out of ignorance or willfully ignoring the facts

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Some of that stuff is also what the US does.

https://www.economist.com/briefing/2018 ... e-no-other

There's really no equation to be made here, except out of ignorance or willfully ignoring the facts

Oh, I wasn't talking about East Turkestan, I was referring to the other parts of China.

[Senkaku]

https://www.economist.com/briefing/2018 ... e-no-other

There's really no equation to be made here, except out of ignorance or willfully ignoring the facts

Oh, I wasn't talking about East Turkestan, I was referring to the other parts of China.

Chinese practices in the west may be more draconian and visible in daily life (especially the checkpoints), but don't think similar things aren't happening in Eastern China too. The dove drones should be proof enough of that, or Beijing being blanketed with cameras, or any number of other huge surveillance programs.

Sure, the NSA collecting phone metadata is a big surveillance program, but it's nowhere near the level to which the Chinese have taken things.

[Genivaria]

So this is a cool thing I found on YouTube, Chile's Prussian Army.

https://youtu.be/adzg_iMg9Sc

[Reikoku]

https://youtu.be/ucJ6RPez06s

Gollum/Precious 2020

[Autarkheia]

I don't get the appeal of Prussia. Sure, it was a successful and well-organized society, maybe, but I would hardly want to go back to it or use it as a model for current year.

[Reikoku]

I don't get the appeal of Prussia. Sure, it was a successful and well-organized society, maybe, but I would hardly want to go back to it or use it as a model for current year.

Prussia was trash-tier, people just idolize them because of their militarist imagery.

[Proctopeo]

I don't get the appeal of Prussia. Sure, it was a successful and well-organized society, maybe, but I would hardly want to go back to it or use it as a model for current year.

Prussia was trash-tier, people just idolize them because of their militarist imagery.

Ulm was the most superior German state, change my mind.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Oh, I wasn't talking about East Turkestan, I was referring to the other parts of China.

Chinese practices in the west may be more draconian and visible in daily life (especially the checkpoints), but don't think similar things aren't happening in Eastern China too. The dove drones should be proof enough of that, or Beijing being blanketed with cameras, or any number of other huge surveillance programs.

Sure, the NSA collecting phone metadata is a big surveillance program, but it's nowhere near the level to which the Chinese have taken things.

Have you paid attention to stuff that has come out in leaks? We do lots more than collect phone metadata. They can use literally anything you own nowadays to watch (smart TV's for example) or listen to you if they so wish. While yeah China is blunt about it and doesn't try to hide it our gov knows just as much about you as China does about its people.

[Benuty]

I don't get the appeal of Prussia. Sure, it was a successful and well-organized society, maybe, but I would hardly want to go back to it or use it as a model for current year.

Prussia was trash-tier, people just idolize them because of their militarist imagery.

Its also because of the Prussian machinery, and war style that a German state even exists. After we castrated Prussia post WW2 we honestly should have destroyed Germany since it as a nation lost its very soul.

[Benuty]

On that note, the French guillotine is overrated, and they should have focused on their drowning techniques...given their historical predisposition on drowning nuns, and all.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

On that note, the French guillotine is overrated, and they should have focused on their drowning techniques...given their historical predisposition on drowning nuns, and all.

The guillotine is the most humane method of execution, but boy is it fucking messy.

[Benuty]

On that note, the French guillotine is overrated, and they should have focused on their drowning techniques...given their historical predisposition on drowning nuns, and all.

The guillotine is the most humane method of execution, but boy is it fucking messy.

I was merely being edgy, but given certain revolutionaries sadistic tendencies when it came to dispatching the "enemy" drowning crowds of people would be one hell of a way to scare people.

[Duhon]

On that note, the French guillotine is overrated, and they should have focused on their drowning techniques...given their historical predisposition on drowning nuns, and all.

The guillotine is the most humane method of execution, but boy is it fucking messy.

Killing someone generally is.

[Kowani]

The guillotine is the most humane method of execution, but boy is it fucking messy.

Killing someone generally is.

Tie ‘em to weights and throw ‘em in a lake. No cleanup needed.

[Duhon]

Killing someone generally is.

Tie ‘em to weights and throw ‘em in a lake. No cleanup needed.

Waterborne diseases send their love.

[Benuty]

Killing someone generally is.

Tie ‘em to weights and throw ‘em in a lake. No cleanup needed.

Well that depends on how many fish in the lake are willing to clean up the body, and there is that whole process of nosy investigations when a body comes back up.

[Kowani]

Tie ‘em to weights and throw ‘em in a lake. No cleanup needed.

Well that depends on how many fish in the lake are willing to clean up the body, and there is that whole process of nosy investigations when a body comes back up.

Pssh. Then we take ‘em out to sea instead. Nobody’s funding a sea floor expedition for one body.

[Salus Maior]

Well that depends on how many fish in the lake are willing to clean up the body, and there is that whole process of nosy investigations when a body comes back up.

Pssh. Then we take ‘em out to sea instead. Nobody’s funding a sea floor expedition for one body.

I think a single bullet to the head would suffice.

[Valgora]

Pssh. Then we take ‘em out to sea instead. Nobody’s funding a sea floor expedition for one body.

I think a single bullet to the head would suffice.

But you have to take care of the body after you've killed them.

[Kowani]

I think a single bullet to the head would suffice.

But you have to take care of the body after you've killed them.

Yep, that’s the problem.