Right Wing Discussion Thread XIV: Join the Friendkorps

[Benuty]

I mean I can understand alot of that but the extent that they take their anti-tech is just absurd, not to mention that Caesar is an outright hypocrite for using an advanced Pre-War Auto-Doc while everyone else is banned from basic stimpaks.

Their stance on tech seems to be pretty flexible given Centurions operate very high tech weaponry just fine and even incorporate bits of power armor into their own suits.

Plus that whole restriction on tech stuff very likely doesn't extend to civilians in their territory since iirc it's mentioned cities under Legion control have constant electricity and whatnot.

Civilians that serve an important purpose, and require the use of said technology such as couriers who are protected under Caesar's law.

[Genivaria]

Their stance on tech seems to be pretty flexible given Centurions operate very high tech weaponry just fine and even incorporate bits of power armor into their own suits.

Plus that whole restriction on tech stuff very likely doesn't extend to civilians in their territory since iirc it's mentioned cities under Legion control have constant electricity and whatnot.

Civilians that serve an important purpose, and require the use of said technology such as couriers who are protected under Caesar's law.

Which I can understand valued resources being reserved for the ones who need it most, but again how does that justify the lack of medical technology at the frontlines? The lack of weapon technology for your troops? It's absurd.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Civilians that serve an important purpose, and require the use of said technology such as couriers who are protected under Caesar's law.

Which I can understand valued resources being reserved for the ones who need it most, but again how does that justify the lack of medical technology at the frontlines? The lack of weapon technology for your troops? It's absurd.

It breeds weakness. Real men use primitive gear until they prove themselves worthy to get high tech shit.

[The National Salvation Front for Russia]

Which I can understand valued resources being reserved for the ones who need it most, but again how does that justify the lack of medical technology at the frontlines? The lack of weapon technology for your troops? It's absurd.

The reasons are twofold I think. Because Caesar wants his legions to be completely self-sufficient and to spare valuable resources for other uses. Caesar doesn't particularly care to give his soldiers rare medicines and guns because the NCR are so poorly equipped, making such things unnecessary.

[Reikoku]

Which I can understand valued resources being reserved for the ones who need it most, but again how does that justify the lack of medical technology at the frontlines? The lack of weapon technology for your troops? It's absurd.

It breeds weakness. Real men use primitive gear until they prove themselves worthy to get high tech shit.

The Legion does a pretty good job of making sure that initiated members tend to be extremely fanatical, so perhaps this strategy has its usefulness. It does sort of remind me of the IJA in WW2.

[Benuty]

Which I can understand valued resources being reserved for the ones who need it most, but again how does that justify the lack of medical technology at the frontlines? The lack of weapon technology for your troops? It's absurd.

The reasons are twofold I think. Because Caesar wants his legions to be completely self-sufficient and to spare valuable resources for other uses. Caesar doesn't particularly care to give his soldiers rare medicines and guns because the NCR are so poorly equipped, making such things unnecessary.

I mean for all intents and purposes the NCR already is on its last legs with poor morale, chaotic supply distribution, and drafting everyone they can to send to their deaths. So its any wonder Caeser isn't investing a huge effort into overunning them by blitzkrieg when you can bleed them dry with terror, and fear.

[Reikoku]

http://www.pravdareport.com/society/sto ... ukraine-0/

“It is quite possible that Buddha belonged to the Scythian nation of Budins that lived on the territory of Ancient Ukraine during the first or the second millennium B.C. The name of the nation is still preserved in the names of Ukraine’s contemporary settlements – Seredina-Buda, Buda, and some others,” the newspaper of Ukraine’s Supreme Rada wrote.

“Everything is clear from the ethnic point of view. Buddha was a Scythian Arian, a member of the Budin tribe. The descendants of the tribe still live in the Sumsky and the Chernigov region of Ukraine, as well as on the neighboring lands of Belarus and Russia,” the newspaper said.

[...]

“The name of Egypt’s major temple, Het-ka-Ptah, sounds very much like Ukrainian words ‘hata’ and ‘ptaha’ (‘house’ and ‘bird’). The pictures on the Egyptian pyramids show that Egyptian queens were blonde women with blue eyes, just like many Ukrainian women. One should also pay attention to the fact that the trident, which is currently the minor national emblem of Ukraine, can often be seen there too,” the “scientist” wrote.

[The National Salvation Front for Russia]

I mean for all intents and purposes the NCR already is on its last legs with poor morale, chaotic supply distribution, and drafting everyone they can to send to their deaths. So its any wonder Caeser isn't investing a huge effort into overunning them by blitzkrieg when you can bleed them dry with terror, and fear.

Are you agreeing with me? You're not being very clear.

If you're suggesting that Caesar isn't investing resources into a blitzkrieg campaign because he can bleed the NCR dry with terroristic guerrilla action than I agree.

[Mattopilos II]

It breeds weakness. Real men use primitive gear until they prove themselves worthy to get high tech shit.

The Legion does a pretty good job of making sure that initiated members tend to be extremely fanatical, so perhaps this strategy has its usefulness. It does sort of remind me of the IJA in WW2.

If they are willing to die for their tribe(?), they will do it with nothing or everything. No point giving the best equipment to new arrivals, so in that way it might act to "weed out" the weak ones since they never live to get the higher ranks and better armour, weapons, accessories.

[The National Salvation Front for Russia]

http://www.pravdareport.com/society/stories/12-03-2009/107229-buddha_jesus_christ_ukraine-0/

“It is quite possible that Buddha belonged to the Scythian nation of Budins that lived on the territory of Ancient Ukraine during the first or the second millennium B.C. The name of the nation is still preserved in the names of Ukraine’s contemporary settlements – Seredina-Buda, Buda, and some others,” the newspaper of Ukraine’s Supreme Rada wrote.

“Everything is clear from the ethnic point of view. Buddha was a Scythian Arian, a member of the Budin tribe. The descendants of the tribe still live in the Sumsky and the Chernigov region of Ukraine, as well as on the neighboring lands of Belarus and Russia,” the newspaper said.

[...]

“The name of Egypt’s major temple, Het-ka-Ptah, sounds very much like Ukrainian words ‘hata’ and ‘ptaha’ (‘house’ and ‘bird’). The pictures on the Egyptian pyramids show that Egyptian queens were blonde women with blue eyes, just like many Ukrainian women. One should also pay attention to the fact that the trident, which is currently the minor national emblem of Ukraine, can often be seen there too,” the “scientist” wrote.

I'm honestly surprised. I didn't expect the brilliant "historians" and "anthropologists" of Ukraine to use their revisionist magic to snag the Buddha and Egyptian Queens as full-blooded Ukrainians.

[Dark Socialism]

http://www.pravdareport.com/society/stories/12-03-2009/107229-buddha_jesus_christ_ukraine-0/

“It is quite possible that Buddha belonged to the Scythian nation of Budins that lived on the territory of Ancient Ukraine during the first or the second millennium B.C. The name of the nation is still preserved in the names of Ukraine’s contemporary settlements – Seredina-Buda, Buda, and some others,” the newspaper of Ukraine’s Supreme Rada wrote.

“Everything is clear from the ethnic point of view. Buddha was a Scythian Arian, a member of the Budin tribe. The descendants of the tribe still live in the Sumsky and the Chernigov region of Ukraine, as well as on the neighboring lands of Belarus and Russia,” the newspaper said.

[...]

“The name of Egypt’s major temple, Het-ka-Ptah, sounds very much like Ukrainian words ‘hata’ and ‘ptaha’ (‘house’ and ‘bird’). The pictures on the Egyptian pyramids show that Egyptian queens were blonde women with blue eyes, just like many Ukrainian women. One should also pay attention to the fact that the trident, which is currently the minor national emblem of Ukraine, can often be seen there too,” the “scientist” wrote.

I can't believe that this is serious Buddha is obviously Indian and the Egyptians were obviously Phoenician

[Mattopilos II]

http://www.pravdareport.com/society/stories/12-03-2009/107229-buddha_jesus_christ_ukraine-0/

I can't believe that this is serious Buddha is obviously Indian and the Egyptians were obviously Phoenician

Just like how Jesus is Peruvian!

[The National Salvation Front for Russia]

What are the opinions of RWDT denizens on the arch-traitor Yeltsin?

[Dahon]

http://www.pravdareport.com/society/stories/12-03-2009/107229-buddha_jesus_christ_ukraine-0/

“It is quite possible that Buddha belonged to the Scythian nation of Budins that lived on the territory of Ancient Ukraine during the first or the second millennium B.C. The name of the nation is still preserved in the names of Ukraine’s contemporary settlements – Seredina-Buda, Buda, and some others,” the newspaper of Ukraine’s Supreme Rada wrote.

“Everything is clear from the ethnic point of view. Buddha was a Scythian Arian, a member of the Budin tribe. The descendants of the tribe still live in the Sumsky and the Chernigov region of Ukraine, as well as on the neighboring lands of Belarus and Russia,” the newspaper said.

[...]

“The name of Egypt’s major temple, Het-ka-Ptah, sounds very much like Ukrainian words ‘hata’ and ‘ptaha’ (‘house’ and ‘bird’). The pictures on the Egyptian pyramids show that Egyptian queens were blonde women with blue eyes, just like many Ukrainian women. One should also pay attention to the fact that the trident, which is currently the minor national emblem of Ukraine, can often be seen there too,” the “scientist” wrote.

Milder forms of historiographical megalomania are at least founts of literary inspiration.

[Dahon]

What are the opinions of RWDT denizens on the arch-traitor Yeltsin?

His drunken incompetence and overweening lust for power partly paved the way for Putin's peace of the grave. What else?

[Proctopeo]

What are the opinions of RWDT denizens on the arch-traitor Yeltsin?

A poor leader, but his resignation from the Politburo is admirable.

[Salus Maior]

I mean I can understand alot of that but the extent that they take their anti-tech is just absurd, not to mention that Caesar is an outright hypocrite for using an advanced Pre-War Auto-Doc while everyone else is banned from basic stimpaks.

I think your problem here is applying egalitarian principles to an authoritarian military autocracy.

[Salus Maior]

I can't believe that this is serious Buddha is obviously Indian and the Egyptians were obviously Phoenician

Egyptians weren't Phoenician.

[Genivaria]

I mean I can understand alot of that but the extent that they take their anti-tech is just absurd, not to mention that Caesar is an outright hypocrite for using an advanced Pre-War Auto-Doc while everyone else is banned from basic stimpaks.

I think your problem here is applying egalitarian principles to an authoritarian military autocracy.

No not really, I simply believe in force multipliers like superior firepower and better tactics.
I mean if you want to use your army like a barbarian horde then that's fine I guess (which ironically Caesar is aware that his Legion resembles a Germanic horde instead of a Roman Legion) but that's not going to win you many battles.

I mean if you look at what's happened in Vegas you can see that the NCR holds the majority of territory in the region, the Legion really knows how to take territory (if you don't mind horrible casualty rates and even irradiating an area to make it unusable) but they're not that good at defending it.

Giving your soldiers the tools to win and using your troops in the best way is not 'applying egalitarian principles', it's applying military principals that win.

Anyway this is getting further and further away from the topic so I'll end it here, if you want to continue this discussion in the Fallout thread I'll meet you there.

[Painisia]

I see that RWDT holds a very negative view on democracy. Many here are favorable to feudalist, autocratic or other forms of authoritarian rule. You all probably think that an autocratic government with a Messiah-like leader will have the magic capacity to solve any domestic issues. History has shown that as soon as problems starts in a nation, the strongman no longer is a strongman for the common man and discontent sweeps over the nation. Democracy is not perfect, but at least it consolidates all viewpoints and opinions. But I suspect that the rise of populism and a Weimar-like situation in several countries has damaged the faith to democratic rule

[Mardla]

I see that RWDT holds a very negative view on democracy. Many here are favorable to feudalist, autocratic or other forms of authoritarian rule. You all probably think that an autocratic government with a Messiah-like leader will have the magic capacity to solve any domestic issues. History has shown that as soon as problems starts in a nation, the strongman no longer is a strongman for the common man and discontent sweeps over the nation. Democracy is not perfect, but at least it consolidates all viewpoints and opinions. But I suspect that the rise of populism and a Weimar-like situation in several countries has damaged the faith to democratic rule

We don't believe most domestic problems are the central government's concern.

[Oil exporting People]

I see that RWDT holds a very negative view on democracy. Many here are favorable to feudalist, autocratic or other forms of authoritarian rule. You all probably think that an autocratic government with a Messiah-like leader will have the magic capacity to solve any domestic issues. History has shown that as soon as problems starts in a nation, the strongman no longer is a strongman for the common man and discontent sweeps over the nation. Democracy is not perfect, but at least it consolidates all viewpoints and opinions. But I suspect that the rise of populism and a Weimar-like situation in several countries has damaged the faith to democratic rule

Except Democracy doesn't do that at all.

[The National Salvation Front for Russia]

I see that RWDT holds a very negative view on democracy. Many here are favorable to feudalist, autocratic or other forms of authoritarian rule. You all probably think that an autocratic government with a Messiah-like leader will have the magic capacity to solve any domestic issues. History has shown that as soon as problems starts in a nation, the strongman no longer is a strongman for the common man and discontent sweeps over the nation. Democracy is not perfect, but at least it consolidates all viewpoints and opinions. But I suspect that the rise of populism and a Weimar-like situation in several countries has damaged the faith to democratic rule

Democracy and Russia are two irreconcilable concepts. Not only are Russians unused to genuine democratic governments (most are apathetic at worst, or care only about hot-button nationalistic issues at best), but every attempt to create a democracy in Russia has failed in some way or the other. I can only think of one genuinely democratic period in our history, the Provisional Government between March and November 1917. That experiment failed.

[Oil exporting People]

I see that RWDT holds a very negative view on democracy. Many here are favorable to feudalist, autocratic or other forms of authoritarian rule. You all probably think that an autocratic government with a Messiah-like leader will have the magic capacity to solve any domestic issues. History has shown that as soon as problems starts in a nation, the strongman no longer is a strongman for the common man and discontent sweeps over the nation. Democracy is not perfect, but at least it consolidates all viewpoints and opinions. But I suspect that the rise of populism and a Weimar-like situation in several countries has damaged the faith to democratic rule

Democracy and Russia are two irreconcilable concepts. Not only are Russians unused to genuine democratic governments (most are apathetic at worst, or care only about hot-button nationalistic issues at best), but every attempt to create a democracy in Russia has failed in some way or the other. I can only think of one genuinely democratic period in our history, the Provisional Government between March and November 1917. That experiment failed.

The Monarchists should've rallied the remains of the Army and put them all down in February.

[Painisia]

I see that RWDT holds a very negative view on democracy. Many here are favorable to feudalist, autocratic or other forms of authoritarian rule. You all probably think that an autocratic government with a Messiah-like leader will have the magic capacity to solve any domestic issues. History has shown that as soon as problems starts in a nation, the strongman no longer is a strongman for the common man and discontent sweeps over the nation. Democracy is not perfect, but at least it consolidates all viewpoints and opinions. But I suspect that the rise of populism and a Weimar-like situation in several countries has damaged the faith to democratic rule

Democracy and Russia are two irreconcilable concepts. Not only are Russians unused to genuine democratic governments (most are apathetic at worst, or care only about hot-button nationalistic issues at best), but every attempt to create a democracy in Russia has failed in some way or the other. I can only think of one genuinely democratic period in our history, the Provisional Government between March and November 1917. That experiment failed.

Yeah, I was referring to RWDT`s unconditional love for a Tsar-like rule. But I must admit that Catherine The Great was a good leader