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Is it racist to call a black man a "negro who don't read"?

Postby Blasted Craigs » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:11 pm

Well, on the news, this happened. And, the host on the show, instead of denouncing the commentator that said this, giggled and laughed.
Basically, the panel disagreed with what a black man said about their party, and said "this is what happens when negros don't read" and the entire panel, including the host, laughed, and the point was never denounced as racist nor as untrue.
Here's a video of the commentator saying this atrocious comment.
Youtube Video of this spectacle.
So Nationstates, what say you? Is it ok that this panel said the comments of this black man were wrong, and what this man said was what happened when "Negros can't read"? Is it racist?
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Yes, any News station that berates someone on racial lines like this, it is entirely racist. whether referring to someone as a "cracker" or a "Negro", it is racist and should be condemned.



Oh, and in case your thinking this is some obscure news station overseas, it is a famous news organization here in America.
It was CNN. Talking about Kanye West.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:13 pm

This furthers my support for Ye's 2024 presidential run.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:18 pm

People are mocking Kanye West?

Say it ain't so.......

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Postby Saiwania » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:18 pm

I don't consider this all that big of a deal or worth my attention, but I would consider it beyond the pale. There are almost no truly illiterate people in the US. Supposedly, some Black people can get paid big money to say bad things about the Black community or Black celebrities to Conservative audiences because Blacks typically vote Democrat/liberal. I think that is what's going on.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:22 pm

Statement is grammatically incorrect but the only racial element can be construed non offensive.

The latter part "who don't read"(sic) could be applied to any race.


Statement is offensive but I wouldn't call it raciest.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:22 pm

Saiwania wrote:I don't consider this all that big of a deal or worth my attention, but I would consider it beyond the pale. There are almost no truly illiterate people in the US. Supposedly, some Black people can get paid big money to say bad things about the Black community or Black celebrities to Conservative audiences because Blacks typically vote Democrat/liberal. I think that is what's going on.

They weren’t calling him illiterate, they were referring to his own statement that he was a proud non-reader.
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Postby Cetacea » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:25 pm

It’s one of the great ironies of the US bipartisan politics that one set of token black people can call out another as being a token negro without any sense of hesitation or irony

Something similar happened in NZ politics this week when a political party leader said two Chinese mps were worth more than two Indian mps and the parties Indian MPs defended it.

It’s amazing what people will internalize if it means mo’ cash in their pockets....
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Postby Bombadil » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:26 pm

I think you miss the point of why black people use negro and nigger, it’s to own a slur.. hence white people can’t use it because it remains a slur. To put it in Christian terms it’s Jesus dying to say ‘Death where is thy sting’. Yet Christians can still be upset when we call him a zombie.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:35 pm

Bombadil wrote:I think you miss the point of why black people use negro and nigger, it’s to own a slur.. hence white people can’t use it because it remains a slur. To put it in Christian terms it’s Jesus dying to say ‘Death where is thy sting’. Yet Christians can still be upset when we call him a zombie.

Probably because Jesus wasn't a zombie at any point.

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Postby Bombadil » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:40 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Bombadil wrote:I think you miss the point of why black people use negro and nigger, it’s to own a slur.. hence white people can’t use it because it remains a slur. To put it in Christian terms it’s Jesus dying to say ‘Death where is thy sting’. Yet Christians can still be upset when we call him a zombie.

Probably because Jesus wasn't a zombie at any point.


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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:04 pm

Nobody denounced it because a black man said it. And it was funny.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:07 pm

Cetacea wrote:It’s one of the great ironies of the US bipartisan politics that one set of token black people can call out another as being a token negro without any sense of hesitation or irony

Something similar happened in NZ politics this week when a political party leader said two Chinese mps were worth more than two Indian mps and the parties Indian MPs defended it.

It’s amazing what people will internalize if it means mo’ cash in their pockets....



So a black person who is a liberal is a token? Do you hear yourself?
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:12 pm

Dang, the comments in there were painful. Sorry to burst your bubble people, the KKK isnt liberal it is ultra conservative.
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Postby Herskerstad » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:25 pm

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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:35 pm

1. Negro isn't racist. Words aren't racist.
2. It is totally unacceptable to hold people's speech to different standards based on their race, that is in fact racist.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:46 pm

Des-Bal wrote:1. Negro isn't racist. Words aren't racist.
2. It is totally unacceptable to hold people's speech to different standards based on their race, that is in fact racist.

Context is racist!
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:53 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Context is racist!


When the context is the race of the person yes it absolutely is.
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Postby DARGLED » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:35 pm

It depends on the intent. However it does not matter your intent. The intent is racist always. Negro is "ALWAYS BAD".
The use of the negro is intent.
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Postby The Batorys » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:25 am

Napkiraly wrote:This furthers my support for Ye's 2024 presidential run.

Wtf happened to you?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:44 am

It's ironic that Kanye West, a man admitting to being a non-reader and non-taker of psychiatric medication who proclaimed that the 13th Amendment should be repealed, is being defended with claims that he's a target of racism.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:45 am

DARGLED wrote:It depends on the intent. However it does not matter your intent. The intent is racist always. Negro is "ALWAYS BAD".
The use of the negro is intent.



Negro is not always bad. Black people call each other that jokingly all the time.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:47 am

Petrasylvania wrote:It's ironic that Kanye West, a man admitting to being a non-reader and non-taker of psychiatric medication who proclaimed that the 13th Amendment should be repealed, is being defended with claims that he's a target of racism.



He also called slavery a choice. He runs for President, he wont get the majority of the black vote. He have no idea the nasty things some blacks say about him.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:52 am

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:It's ironic that Kanye West, a man admitting to being a non-reader and non-taker of psychiatric medication who proclaimed that the 13th Amendment should be repealed, is being defended with claims that he's a target of racism.



He also called slavery a choice. He runs for President, he wont get the majority of the black vote. He have no idea the nasty things some blacks say about him.

Let's see Kanye release a new album when he's too busy picking cotton out in the fields wearing chain as a consequence of his own ramblings.
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Postby Page » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:53 am

Ah, the time honored tradition of white people telling black people that the words black people use are racist against black people. Whitesplainin'. Those black people aren't smart enough to realize when they're being racists against themselves, they need white people to explain it to them and save them from their own racism, right?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:53 am

What is it with all this "but is it OK if I use [SLUR] -this- way?" stuff?
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