What social/philosophical beliefs can you not compromise on?

[Hammer Britannia]

How is Count Dankula racist?

Count dankula? That the guy from sesame street?

You must be thinking of Count von Count

Count Dankula is the guy who taught his dog how to salute Hitler for the memes

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Basically, after years of debating on webforums, I'd say the top two are "don't misrepresent others' words" and "don't jump to conclusions about people's offline lives, at least on inadequate evidence."

Too often have people who've disregarded those principles gotten me wrong.

[Dogmeat]

Basically, after years of debating on webforums, I'd say the top two are "don't misrepresent others' words" and "don't jump to conclusions about people's offline lives, at least on inadequate evidence."

Too often have people who've disregarded those principles gotten me wrong.

So you're saying you hate Trump supporters, but I bet it's only because you're secretly a forest ranger.

[Planet Jini]

Stormy Daniels, the Russian investigation, refusal to condemn the Charlottesville white supremacists, pardon of Joe Arpaio, family separation policy, etc. Several of these things were not just condemned by leftists. The family separation policy was condemned by several conservative churches, and lots of Republicans were critical of Joe Arpaio's pardon, such as John McCain and Paul Ryan. Trump's tense history of race relations don't do well to vindicate him of accusations of racism.

1. Stormy Daniels lost.
2. People still believe this Russia crap?
3. Uh, yes he did. The left just got butthurt that he condemned leftists too.
4. Joe Arpaio. So? Funny how the left were okay with Obama pardoning criminal politicians, but oh no! God forbid we pardon a wacist bigot!
5. Lol yeah maybe illegal migrants should stop trying to trespass into a country they're not supposed to be in. I don't care who opposes Trump's immigration policy.
6. If this wikipedia article is all you have, you haven't proved anything.

This "Russia crap" has been proven by the CIA. Russia ran fake ads to help trump and hacked hillary clinton's emails. just because u wanna believe it didnt happen doesnt mean that's true. As for trump's fake condemnation of white nationalists, he claimed there were fine people on both sides of the conflict. Yeah, i bet there were some really fine ppl chanting "jews will not replace us" while waving confederate and nazi flags. Joe Arpaio is a racial profiling thug who locked up countless hispanic men, often citizens of america, in what was basically a concentration camp. his pardoning was a loss for america. and the reason the illegal immigrants keep coming from central america is because the US ruined the region. the US overthrew the nicaraguan and honduran governments in the past and sent violent Los Angeles gang members to El Salvadore, multiplying the crime rate there. The US wouldnt need to deal with refugees if it didnt have a history of ruining other people's countries and actively being a threat to democracy worldwide. dont lie to yourself, Trump was the final nail in the coffin for american freedom which has been being chipped away at for 100 years now

[Planet Jini]

The belief that no human group or institution is excluded from criticism or allowed unadultered control over others.

[Empire of Narnia]

Anything pro-homosexuality and atheism. I'll do business with those people because money but I can't stand their beliefs.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

People who believe that the disadvantaged or disabled (physically or mentally) cannot contribute to society infuriates me to the highest degree possible, and I will instantly hold a grudge towards them.

People who prioritize emotions over pragmatism in politics also greatly annoy me.

[Frievolk]

Because once given a reason, they normally are?
I can't give you factual statistics-based evidence, because it's pretty much impossible to do so, but Nobody I know who's been accused of racism both on the media and irl actually is racist, to varying levels. The same may not be true for "Nazi" (which has, to a certain degree, come to take "Would've Sympathized with Nazis" and "Does Sympathize with Nazis" in the fold as well, which while horrible in and of itself, doesn't make one a Nazi in truth), but racist and sexist? They're almost always true.

Now that's just plain wrong, from where I'm standing. Currently, people are getting all sorts of labels thrown at them by people who are hypersensitive or just want attention. Is the scientist who landed a probe on a comet sexist? Is Pewdiepie racist? Is Count Dankula racist?

People aren't hypersensetive. People have started realizing that, as I've been saying this last two (or more) pages, "calling for lynching but not participating in it doesn't make you not racist". (I exaggerate, but hopefully you get the point).
I'm not sure about the first one (because you didn't give a name for either?) but the other two are definitely racist, and not "said something racist once" racist either.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Now that's just plain wrong, from where I'm standing. Currently, people are getting all sorts of labels thrown at them by people who are hypersensitive or just want attention. Is the scientist who landed a probe on a comet sexist? Is Pewdiepie racist? Is Count Dankula racist?

People aren't hypersensetive. People have started realizing that, as I've been saying this last two (or more) pages, "calling for lynching but not participating in it doesn't make you not racist". (I exaggerate, but hopefully you get the point).
I'm not sure about the first one (because you didn't give a name for either?) but the other two are definitely racist, and not "said something racist once" racist either.

Have you been living under a rock? Are you really trying to argue that hypersensitivity is rare in the modern west?

"but the other two are definitely racist, and not "said something racist once" racist either." This is the part where you gimme some E&E. Some explanation and evidence.

[Frievolk]

People aren't hypersensetive. People have started realizing that, as I've been saying this last two (or more) pages, "calling for lynching but not participating in it doesn't make you not racist". (I exaggerate, but hopefully you get the point).
I'm not sure about the first one (because you didn't give a name for either?) but the other two are definitely racist, and not "said something racist once" racist either.

Have you been living under a rock? Are you really trying to argue that hypersensitivity is rare in the modern west?

"but the other two are definitely racist, and not "said something racist once" racist either." This is the part where you gimme some E&E. Some explanation and evidence.

No I don't live under the rock. You try to convince yourself that the upgrade in standards of "What makes one racist" are due to hypersensitivity, while the same standards were only not held because the majority of the world was institutionally Racist until fairly recently. (And don't try to pretend it wasn't. Segregation, Apartheid, and actual human zoos all happened in literal living memory)
When the actual States goes "We should give inferior products to Blacks because they're inferior", then stuff like "Blacks need appropriate representation" and "Calling black people offensive names is racist" doesn't become a major talking point, because people are too busy with "Blacks shouldn't legally be barred from owning more than 5% of the national property as a collective" to actually argue those points.
That's not hypersensetivity. That's the next logical level of a Civil Rights Progression Movement. When the bare necessities are finally achieved, we start thinking about the details.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Have you been living under a rock? Are you really trying to argue that hypersensitivity is rare in the modern west?

"but the other two are definitely racist, and not "said something racist once" racist either." This is the part where you gimme some E&E. Some explanation and evidence.

No I don't live under the rock. You try to convince yourself that the upgrade in standards of "What makes one racist" are due to hypersensitivity, while the same standards were only not held because the majority of the world was institutionally Racist until fairly recently. (And don't try to pretend it wasn't. Segregation, Apartheid, and actual human zoos all happened in literal living memory)
When the actual States goes "We should give inferior products to Blacks because they're inferior", then stuff like "Blacks need appropriate representation" and "Calling black people offensive names is racist" doesn't become a major talking point, because people are too busy with "Blacks shouldn't legally be barred from owning more than 5% of the national property as a collective" to actually argue those points.
That's not hypersensetivity. That's the next logical level of a Civil Rights Progression Movement. When the bare necessities are finally achieved, we start thinking about the details.

Dude, listen, plenty of people are being accused racism who are neither advocating for, nor participating in lynches. Plenty of people are being called racist for treating races the same, or for making a joke related in any way to a racial minority, or for criticizing an individual PoC etc. You're placing a great deal of trust in the accuser, and not giving the accused any leeway at all.

Also, E&E for Pewdiepie and Dankula. Come on.

[Korhal IVV]

Three things that I detest most: Anti-vaxxers, Flat Earthers, and stupid/unqualified politicians. Especially the last.

Like, seriously. Here in my country, the Senate has a boxer (who never studied law, by the way), and another bunch of random idiots and criminals are going to run for Senatorial positions. Random idiots include a pornstar and a singer (said pornstar was Communications Secretary and it is a meme on Facebook that she has no brain, as she explained federalism as “it is good, but not too good, but it is good, but just the right pinch of good.”). Then there are these criminals who have been IMPRISONED for plunder and yet are being allowed to run for Senator. The other two are self explanatory.

[Dumb Ideologies]

I cannot compromise on refusing friendships with your friends who do not dance.

[Dumb Ideologies]

In addition, whilst I will do anything for love, I won't do that.

[DACOROMANIA]

I cannot compromise on my own beliefs, something like:
- Tolerance and respect between and for different cultures, religions, races etc.
- Human Rights are indeed necessary.
- Dealth Penalty (as a punishment by justice) and any slavery should be outlawed / forbidden.
- Romania is a distinct and old nation, and Romanians should Not be confused with gypsyes.
- Genocide is evil menace, whatever destination or reason.
- Christianity is promoting love, even for enemies, but Not a reason to kill or to torture. (Inquisition was a political institution in West, for real meanings you should read books from East, Orthodoxy, where philosophies were all the time)
- Respect your parents and even your children. You have No rights to torture them just because their relatives.
- The Ten Commandments from Bible shows a moral guidance, but Not a law of terror.
- No one is forced to obey or to deny a belief or a god. Killing someone for something like that do Not make you a saint, but worse as evil.
- Never enforce a hetero/straight man or a child to become gay. Attacking a hetero or a child for that reason is also a crime.
- Everyone has the right to love.
And even more.

So, what is the purpose of this thread? or how do you want to use this?

[Tahar Joblis]

Have you been living under a rock? Are you really trying to argue that hypersensitivity is rare in the modern west?

"but the other two are definitely racist, and not "said something racist once" racist either." This is the part where you gimme some E&E. Some explanation and evidence.

No I don't live under the rock. You try to convince yourself that the upgrade in standards of "What makes one racist" are due to hypersensitivity, while the same standards were only not held because the majority of the world was institutionally Racist until fairly recently. (And don't try to pretend it wasn't. Segregation, Apartheid, and actual human zoos all happened in literal living memory)
When the actual States goes "We should give inferior products to Blacks because they're inferior", then stuff like "Blacks need appropriate representation" and "Calling black people offensive names is racist" doesn't become a major talking point, because people are too busy with "Blacks shouldn't legally be barred from owning more than 5% of the national property as a collective" to actually argue those points.
That's not hypersensetivity. That's the next logical level of a Civil Rights Progression Movement. When the bare necessities are finally achieved, we start thinking about the details.

Hypersensitivity.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Anything in the Bible.
If it is in the Bible, it is immoral.

Charity is immoral now?

You're related to the founding fathers?

1: Don't generalize people.
2: We right-wingers have people who'd do the same to left-wingers.

BLM is a social movement, not an organization.

Hey, theocrat speaking.
I don't believe in that.

It hasn't existed at all except maybe in very early human history.

1. Groups like Antifa, the BLM and such are leftists as such I will refer to them as leftists so no. Get the left to stop generalizing republicans and maybe I'll consider it.
2. You're not right wing.

Islamism isn't right-wing?

[Rectification Government]

YEAH, KILLEMALL!
Thou shall not steal
*morphs into a raccoon to troll the Christards epic style*

Your nicknaming of Christians is trolling. Since you just received a warning for trolling a couple of weeks ago, you get a *** 24-hour ban for Trolling ***. Please not that this ban applies to you the player and not just this nation.

Sir, I was making a strawman of the person who said that their moral code was the total opposite of the Bible. I know that strawmanning is a fallacy, but I do not believe it is a bannable offense. I apologize for what I said a few weeks ago.

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Another thing I thought of is my utter disdain for legalism and appeal to authority. I find it very hard to find common ground with people who cannot justify their opinion on something other than "it's the law", for example arguing that the abhorrent treatment of migrant children is acceptable because their parents violated a law by illegally crossing the border.

One must either be ignorant of history or conveniently ignoring it to treat the law as an inviolable thing that should never be willingly defied. Every significant step forward for civil rights, liberty, equality, and justice is in part thanks to criminals. Most people now praise the peaceful civil disobedience of Gandhi and MLK, but they forget what civil disobedience means. Civil disobedience is nonviolent, but it is criminal. It is nonviolent criminal action. Abolitionists and the Underground Railroad were criminals, the suffragettes were criminals, trade unionists who fought for the 8 hour work day were criminals. And that does not taint their legacy. We forget that their defiance is what exemplified their courage and dedication.

Now just so no one twists my words, I am not saying that the people illegally crossing the border are heroic freedom fighters, nor that their willingness to break the law is for a greater cause. These are only people trying to make a better life for themselves and their families. I don't think migrants should be showered with praise, just that they should be given understanding. But that's just one example anyway. My point is that if you want to argue that something is wrong, you have to give me more than "it's illegal." I don't accept appeal to the law as a valid point.

[Korhal IVV]

Anything in the Bible.
If it is in the Bible, it is immoral.

This statement indicates an ignorance of what the Bible actually says.

That aside, I disdain individuals who cherry pick verses and try to make it look like a contradiction but all they do really is take out of the context.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Anything in the Bible.
If it is in the Bible, it is immoral.

This statement indicates an ignorance of what the Bible actually says.

That aside, I disdain individuals who cherry pick verses and try to make it look like a contradiction but all they do really is take out of the context.

ALL THE EFFING FEELS RIGHT HERE

[Neo Azati]

There are many things I will not compromise on:

• There is no absolute, infallibly true religion or philosophy-of-life, at the very least to the extent that it precludes any other religion or philosophy-of-life.
• Sexuality of any type is not a choice, nor can it be immoral unless it results in the non-consensual direct harm of another.
• Gender and sex are separate concepts, neither of which are rigidly bimodal, nor are they infallibly congruous.
• Anyone who works for any business deserves a wage they can live on in the city in which they work.
• Everyone who works should be fairly compensated for their labor rather than given arbitrary wages.
• Those who are disabled deserve the ability to live just as much as anyone who can output profitable labor.
• Immutable characteristics of one's person should never be a basis for discrimination or prejudice.
• Anything that results in the non-consensual direct harm of someone else is immoral and unethical.
• Infinite growth of profit is unsustainable on a finite planet.
• Vaccination should be mandatory except in cases of legitimate medical conflict.

And so on.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Those who are disabled deserve the ability to live just as much as anyone who can output profitable labor.

As someone who has what would be considered a "disability" (I'd consider it a gift), thank you

[Sunstruck]

Anti vaxx & climate change denial

[Neo Azati]

Those who are disabled deserve the ability to live just as much as anyone who can output profitable labor.

As someone who has what would be considered a "disability" (I'd consider it a gift), thank you

I may have either fibromyalgia or multiple sclerosis, but that doesn't make me any less of a person. My close friend may have severe PTSD and panic disorder, but that doesn't make them any less of a person. We all deserve to have the means to survive, even if we can't produce profitable labor.