What social/philosophical beliefs can you not compromise on?

[Northeast American Federation]

I mean, as a general rule of thumb, nothing?
People might just not hang out with you that often, if you're legitimately racist. If you're not, still the same. How do you think calling people names works?

I think it works like this; when someone calls you names, they're often inaccurate. You seem to think that accusations of being racist, a Nazi or reactionary are accurate 99% of the time.

Sticks and stones at this point tbqh. Unless someone calling you a -phobe or -ist is then using that as a prelude to immediately start attacking you with sticks and stones, you may as well just ignore them, especially if their proclamations about you are wrong. You can't reason with someone who will just call you a name that essentially translates to "you're evil" because you disagree with them, and you definitely cannot allow them to control your thinking.

[Jakker]

YEAH, KILLEMALL!
Thou shall not steal
*morphs into a raccoon to troll the Christards epic style*

Your nicknaming of Christians is trolling. Since you just received a warning for trolling a couple of weeks ago, you get a *** 24-hour ban for Trolling ***. Please not that this ban applies to you the player and not just this nation.

[Frievolk]

I mean, as a general rule of thumb, nothing?
People might just not hang out with you that often, if you're legitimately racist. If you're not, still the same. How do you think calling people names works?

I think it works like this; when someone calls you names, they're often inaccurate. You seem to think that accusations of being racist, a Nazi or reactionary are accurate 99% of the time.

Because once given a reason, they normally are?
I can't give you factual statistics-based evidence, because it's pretty much impossible to do so, but Nobody I know who's been accused of racism both on the media and irl actually is racist, to varying levels. The same may not be true for "Nazi" (which has, to a certain degree, come to take "Would've Sympathized with Nazis" and "Does Sympathize with Nazis" in the fold as well, which while horrible in and of itself, doesn't make one a Nazi in truth), but racist and sexist? They're almost always true.

[Thermodolia]

Anti vaxxers, gay marriage, climate change, sheep being superior.

Probably a few other things too.

Well that’s it! I can’t be friends with you. Cats are the obviously superior animal

[Chernoslavia]

my forefathers

You're related to the founding fathers?

He isn't wrong though, the left have called people they just simply don't like or disagree with Nazis or fascists when that's clearly not the case.

1: Don't generalize people.
2: We right-wingers have people who'd do the same to left-wingers.

BLM saying that all white babies need to die

BLM is a social movement, not an organization.

I stop talking to theocrats because I believe that flawed man can never rule as an equal to God, as many theocratic rulers have tried and as many are still trying to do to this day.

Hey, theocrat speaking.
I don't believe in that.

For me, it is when Communists try to say they have done the right thing. It is crystal clear that communism both a) hasn’t worked to create a prosperous nation, and b) Hasn’t existed without murdering at least 10,000 people.

It hasn't existed at all except maybe in very early human history.

1. Groups like Antifa, the BLM and such are leftists as such I will refer to them as leftists so no. Get the left to stop generalizing republicans and maybe I'll consider it.
2. You're not right wing.

So is the kkk, what's your point? That's not relevant at all.

[Rea]

Well there’s a guy at the UU church I go to sometimes. He’s a friend of a friend and we talk. We tried going out and having lunch. He tried talking to me about this new book he got and he explained it in terms of crazy alt right theories. And with everything he said, he would reference some other strange thinker he had read about and explained some strange theory he learned from that guy. Everything.

And on the way home, we got into a big huge argument about global warming and he thought it was basically just a Chinese conspiracy theory. We argued about this for approximately 20 minutes. He even got defensive like “well you can call this a conspiracy theory but that’s just an ad hominem......” Then I tried using some metaphor comparing the Paris climate accords to the Geneva convention.

OK now that wasn’t what made me want to stop speaking to the guy. But then he said he tried reading macintyre but he found it boring. Then I thought “OK fuck this guy.” I’m never speaking to him again.

The fact that he would be so suspicious about such a basic fact and get defensive at any pushback is ridiculous. And at a certain point people make things up so they don’t have to believe things they don’t want to hear, and it’s a real sign of bad character. This guy is one such example. That’s why I don’t speak to them. But also, he had read a bunch of nonsense and fringe theories and could explain all in such articulate terms, but he sneered at actual philosophical genius. I’ll never speak to him again.

Now, we all have issues that get us really riled up. We can disagree about the death penalty or family leave, but you probably have one issue that infuriates you if someone says the wrong thing about it. And I think that’s OK, because believing a certain thing can be a real reflection of their character or be deeply disrespectful. What issue infuriates you the most?

It's terrible that you all ended up damaging an otherwise amazing friendship because of politics and philosophy.

I have many friends and relatives I disagree with on certain issues. One thinks gravity is a hoax and that vaccines cause autism. Others believe climate change is solely the fault of industrialized nations and carbon emissions. Still others think my music is garbage. Many, if not most, would find my political beliefs somewhat offensive if I ever divulged them. I have only one friend who more or less is on the same level with me politically.

And that's OK! We just don't talk politics or philosophy or religion and if we do we do so in a very subdued, neutral manner, emphasizing what we do agree on rather than our differences. The bonds that are forged between us utterly transcend all of this other pointless semantics. We've been friends for years in most cases. We helped each other through the tough times, the broken relationships, the pain and the loss. Our friendships are worth so much more than our superficial tastes and ideological nuances.

[Chernoslavia]

What controversies? Going against the leftists's wishes? The sexual assault allegations that turned out to be bogus? Brett Kavanaugh being confirmed? lol. Everything the left hates, they consider to be controversial.

Stormy Daniels, the Russian investigation, refusal to condemn the Charlottesville white supremacists, pardon of Joe Arpaio, family separation policy, etc. Several of these things were not just condemned by leftists. The family separation policy was condemned by several conservative churches, and lots of Republicans were critical of Joe Arpaio's pardon, such as John McCain and Paul Ryan. Trump's tense history of race relations don't do well to vindicate him of accusations of racism.

1. Stormy Daniels lost.
2. People still believe this Russia crap?
3. Uh, yes he did. The left just got butthurt that he condemned leftists too.
4. Joe Arpaio. So? Funny how the left were okay with Obama pardoning criminal politicians, but oh no! God forbid we pardon a wacist bigot!
5. Lol yeah maybe illegal migrants should stop trying to trespass into a country they're not supposed to be in. I don't care who opposes Trump's immigration policy.
6. If this wikipedia article is all you have, you haven't proved anything.

[Diopolis]

There's a reason I avoid posting in abortion threads nowadays.

[Mattopilos II]

Someone save the posts above to show why arguing here is the most pointless thing in the world.
Also we should keep a tally for every time someone uses “the left” and “the right” unironically.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Anti vaxxers, gay marriage, climate change, sheep being superior.

Probably a few other things too.

Well that’s it! I can’t be friends with you. Cats are the obviously superior animal

Dogs are better in every way.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

I think it works like this; when someone calls you names, they're often inaccurate. You seem to think that accusations of being racist, a Nazi or reactionary are accurate 99% of the time.

Because once given a reason, they normally are?
I can't give you factual statistics-based evidence, because it's pretty much impossible to do so, but Nobody I know who's been accused of racism both on the media and irl actually is racist, to varying levels. The same may not be true for "Nazi" (which has, to a certain degree, come to take "Would've Sympathized with Nazis" and "Does Sympathize with Nazis" in the fold as well, which while horrible in and of itself, doesn't make one a Nazi in truth), but racist and sexist? They're almost always true.

Now that's just plain wrong, from where I'm standing. Currently, people are getting all sorts of labels thrown at them by people who are hypersensitive or just want attention. Is the scientist who landed a probe on a comet sexist? Is Pewdiepie racist? Is Count Dankula racist?

[Conserative Morality]

Now that's just plain wrong, from where I'm standing. Currently, people are getting all sorts of labels thrown at them by people who are hypersensitive or just want attention. Is the scientist who landed a probe on a comet sexist?

Probably not.

Is Pewdiepie racist? Is Count Dankula racist?

Yes.

[Uxupox]

Because once given a reason, they normally are?
I can't give you factual statistics-based evidence, because it's pretty much impossible to do so, but Nobody I know who's been accused of racism both on the media and irl actually is racist, to varying levels. The same may not be true for "Nazi" (which has, to a certain degree, come to take "Would've Sympathized with Nazis" and "Does Sympathize with Nazis" in the fold as well, which while horrible in and of itself, doesn't make one a Nazi in truth), but racist and sexist? They're almost always true.

Now that's just plain wrong, from where I'm standing. Currently, people are getting all sorts of labels thrown at them by people who are hypersensitive or just want attention. Is the scientist who landed a probe on a comet sexist? Is Pewdiepie racist? Is Count Dankula racist?

everybody is racist. especially if you are light skinned white.

[Valrifell]

Because once given a reason, they normally are?
I can't give you factual statistics-based evidence, because it's pretty much impossible to do so, but Nobody I know who's been accused of racism both on the media and irl actually is racist, to varying levels. The same may not be true for "Nazi" (which has, to a certain degree, come to take "Would've Sympathized with Nazis" and "Does Sympathize with Nazis" in the fold as well, which while horrible in and of itself, doesn't make one a Nazi in truth), but racist and sexist? They're almost always true.

Now that's just plain wrong, from where I'm standing. Currently, people are getting all sorts of labels thrown at them by people who are hypersensitive or just want attention. Is the scientist who landed a probe on a comet sexist? Is Pewdiepie racist? Is Count Dankula racist?

Random, irrelevant, no.

Did a racist thing once, maybe?

Definitely. 110% yes. Not a shred of doubt in my mind.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

I think it works like this; when someone calls you names, they're often inaccurate. You seem to think that accusations of being racist, a Nazi or reactionary are accurate 99% of the time.

Sticks and stones at this point tbqh. Unless someone calling you a -phobe or -ist is then using that as a prelude to immediately start attacking you with sticks and stones, you may as well just ignore them, especially if their proclamations about you are wrong. You can't reason with someone who will just call you a name that essentially translates to "you're evil" because you disagree with them, and you definitely cannot allow them to control your thinking.

I understand that. It's just that Frievolk seems to think that name-calling is perfectly accurate and legitimate when it aligns with their politics.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Now that's just plain wrong, from where I'm standing. Currently, people are getting all sorts of labels thrown at them by people who are hypersensitive or just want attention. Is the scientist who landed a probe on a comet sexist?

Probably not.

Is Pewdiepie racist? Is Count Dankula racist?

Yes.

What did they do or say that was racist?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Now that's just plain wrong, from where I'm standing. Currently, people are getting all sorts of labels thrown at them by people who are hypersensitive or just want attention. Is the scientist who landed a probe on a comet sexist? Is Pewdiepie racist? Is Count Dankula racist?

Random, irrelevant, no.

Did a racist thing once, maybe?

Definitely. 110% yes. Not a shred of doubt in my mind.

How is Count Dankula racist?

[Conserative Morality]

Probably not.

Yes.

What did they do or say that was racist?

"Kill all the Jews" "What a fucking nigger"

Gonna have to say that's pretty fucking racist.

Count Dankula joined UKIP. Makes his Nazi dog look a lot less cute and more like typical alt-right "Just a joke lol" bull.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

What did they do or say that was racist?

"Kill all the Jews" "What a fucking nigger"

Gonna have to say that's pretty fucking racist.

Count Dankula joined UKIP. Makes his Nazi dog look a lot less cute and more like typical alt-right "Just a joke lol" bull.

Can you tell me why he said "kill all the Jews." The nigger thing was actually pretty funny. He immediately realized he made a mistake, and then said "Now there's gonna be a massive controversy, and all I'll have to defend myself is "You Laugh You Lose Ep 147."

I wouldn't call joining UKIP evidence enough of racism. That said, it was a fucking stupid decision. Like, why would you join UKIP? It makes no sense.

[Conserative Morality]

Can you tell me why he said "kill all the Jews." The nigger thing was actually pretty funny. He immediately realized he made a mistake, and then said "Now there's gonna be a massive controversy, and all I'll have to defend myself is "You Laugh You Lose Ep 147."

Thank you for not only proving my point, but explaining a lot about yourself.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Can you tell me why he said "kill all the Jews." The nigger thing was actually pretty funny. He immediately realized he made a mistake, and then said "Now there's gonna be a massive controversy, and all I'll have to defend myself is "You Laugh You Lose Ep 147."

Thank you for not only proving my point, but explaining a lot about yourself.

What?

[Dogmeat]

That humanity is divided up into different races. Some liberals insist that skin color differences don't matter enough to constitute the existence of any sub races within our species but I've yet to see convincing evidence on that front. They just think that because in some situations, it is quite hard or near impossible to determine which mixed race individual belongs to what race. So they take the lazy approach and just claim that all humans are only of one race.

No. You wont see any convincing evidence on that front. That's not the same as having "yet to see" it.

[Hammer Britannia]

Pepul who disgree with muh opinuion xd

[Hatterleigh]

Anarcho-Communists. They're just so far to the left that I know that if they had their way they'd probably hang me or something lol. Pretty hard to argue with someone knowing that they think you're a monster. Makes you feel this horrible feeling inside every time they insult you.

Also creationists. They really bug me because they paint a caricature for atheists to attack when nonsense comes out of their mouth.

[Hatterleigh]

How is Count Dankula racist?

Count dankula? That the guy from sesame street?