What social/philosophical beliefs can you not compromise on?

[Gudmund]

Agreed. Games as well. They turned Wolfenstein into cringe worthy garbage. And BF V advertised their game to be “historically accurate but proceed to add handicapped women fighting on the front lines on the Western Front, then the developers bitched at their critics for being “wacist” or whatever and that they need to learn their history.

The only difference between the new Wolfenstein and the older ones is its higher graphics and repetitive gameplay though. What exactly made it cringe worthy? Was it, perhaps, the "we'll kill nazis" thing?

Though I was not referring to specific videogames this video may surmise a tiny bit of info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWkE8L0c4pM

[Mattopilos II]

The only difference between the new Wolfenstein and the older ones is its higher graphics and repetitive gameplay though. What exactly made it cringe worthy? Was it, perhaps, the "we'll kill nazis" thing?

Though I was not referring to specific videogames this video may surmise a tiny bit of info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWkE8L0c4pM

That... gives no reasons past the usual bigotry of something something "ew blacks" and "ew transgender people" in comments.

Nazis don't deserve respect. Who doesn't want to kill nazis? I mean, other than modern liberals and alt-reich people and literal nazis.

[Chernoslavia]

Agreed. Games as well. They turned Wolfenstein into cringe worthy garbage. And BF V advertised their game to be “historically accurate but proceed to add handicapped women fighting on the front lines on the Western Front, then the developers bitched at their critics for being “wacist” or whatever and that they need to learn their history.

The only difference between the new Wolfenstein and the older ones is its higher graphics and repetitive gameplay though. What exactly made it cringe worthy? Was it, perhaps, the "we'll kill nazis" thing?

Every Wolfenstein game has been about killing Nazis so obviously that’s not the case. They overdo it with the black panther lady, the overly sadistic villain, the worst imo is the pregnant girl dual wielding assault rifles and single handedly taking down a giant mech all while being topless. Gameplay is okay, but I coud care less about the story.

[The Huskar Social Union]

That Stannis Baratheon is the one true king of the Seven Kingdoms and protector of the realm by every law of westeros.



Also i will never compromise on:

Evolution is real
Equal rights for LGBT people
Anti vaxxers are a threat to their kids and others as well as being wrong
Flat earthers are flat out fucking wrong
Racism is fucking idiotic as is Nazism
Climate Change is real
Religious Zealotry is also fucking idiotic
Holding people responsible for the actions of their ancestors or people of the same race, nationality or religion is also fucking idiotic

And a bunch of other things no doubt that i might remember to add later once ive woken up properly as i was out drinking last night.

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Though I was not referring to specific videogames this video may surmise a tiny bit of info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWkE8L0c4pM

That... gives no reasons past the usual bigotry of something something "ew blacks" and "ew transgender people" in comments.

Nazis don't deserve respect. Who doesn't want to kill nazis? I mean, other than modern liberals and alt-reich people and literal nazis.

I forget the game, but I remember a shitload of people complaining about a transgender NPC in a an RPG. One NPC out of like a hundred and she wasn't relevant to the main story at all and you don't even have to talk to her to complete the game, and people flipped their shit about SJWs and forced diversity. They really reached for that one.

You can do it with literally any game. Let's see, I just finished playing Vampyr, I bet I can put on my alt-right hat and come up with stuff:

- There's a black ambulance driver in 1918 London. Did they let black people drive back then or are they changing history for forced diversity?
- You find out two NPCs have an interracial relationship and there isn't even an option for the protagonist to be against it!
- The wealthy aristocrat who wants to let all the poor and sick die is portrayed as a jerk, the protagonist doesn't even have the option to agree with him!
- There's a woman on the street protesting for women's suffrage. You can kill her like you can kill any NPC in the game, but the game makes you feel bad about it!

[Chernoslavia]

The only difference between the new Wolfenstein and the older ones is its higher graphics and repetitive gameplay though. What exactly made it cringe worthy? Was it, perhaps, the "we'll kill nazis" thing?

They want to play as “the good guys” I bet.

Nice bait.

[Mattopilos II]

They want to play as “the good guys” I bet.

Nice bait.

You're welcome.

[Chernoslavia]

Though I was not referring to specific videogames this video may surmise a tiny bit of info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWkE8L0c4pM

That... gives no reasons past the usual bigotry of something something "ew blacks" and "ew transgender people" in comments.

Nazis don't deserve respect. Who doesn't want to kill nazis? I mean, other than modern liberals and alt-reich people and literal nazis.

Lol killing Nazis is t what I had a problem with, stop grasping at straws.

[Mattopilos II]

That... gives no reasons past the usual bigotry of something something "ew blacks" and "ew transgender people" in comments.

Nazis don't deserve respect. Who doesn't want to kill nazis? I mean, other than modern liberals and alt-reich people and literal nazis.

Lol killing Nazis is t what I had a problem with, stop grasping at straws.

I wasn't replying to you, was I?

I am sure looking for outrage is something you want here, but at least try to make it focused.

[Chernoslavia]

Lol killing Nazis is t what I had a problem with, stop grasping at straws.

I wasn't replying to you, was I?

I am sure looking for outrage is something you want here, but at least try to make it focused.

Doesn’t matter, in your last post you were clearly implying that I wanted to play as the Nazis and see them as the good guys.

[Gudmund]

Though I was not referring to specific videogames this video may surmise a tiny bit of info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWkE8L0c4pM

That... gives no reasons past the usual bigotry of something something "ew blacks" and "ew transgender people" in comments.

Nazis don't deserve respect. Who doesn't want to kill nazis? I mean, other than modern liberals and alt-reich people and literal nazis.

It's not my opinion, I don't even play Wolfenstein. It was an example of what other people were complaining about.

[Mattopilos II]

I wasn't replying to you, was I?

I am sure looking for outrage is something you want here, but at least try to make it focused.

Doesn’t matter, in your last post you were clearly implying that I wanted to play as the Nazis and see them as the good guys.

I will make sure not to make any jokes you find offensive in the future.

[Mattopilos II]

That... gives no reasons past the usual bigotry of something something "ew blacks" and "ew transgender people" in comments.

Nazis don't deserve respect. Who doesn't want to kill nazis? I mean, other than modern liberals and alt-reich people and literal nazis.

It's not my opinion, I don't even play Wolfenstein. It was an example of what other people were complaining about.

Sound like some pretty petty things to complain about.

But eh, 'everyone's a critic', that's what they say, right?

[Chernoslavia]

Doesn’t matter, in your last post you were clearly implying that I wanted to play as the Nazis and see them as the good guys.

I will make sure not to make any jokes you find offensive in the future.

Lol you’re the one with the snark attitude for criticizing your precious games.

[Mattopilos II]

I will make sure not to make any jokes you find offensive in the future.

Lol you’re the one with the snark attitude for criticizing your precious games.

I haven't played the game.
I am sorry if you somehow take things I never said to you to heart, but I don't really care.

[Chernoslavia]

Lol you’re the one with the snark attitude for criticizing your precious games.

I haven't played the game.
I am sorry if you somehow take things I never said to you to heart, but I don't really care.

> Keeps commenting about it.
> “I dOnT CArE!”

Okay so you haven’t played the game. Have you atleast watched let’s plays or walkthroughs about it? Because then you’ll see why people are giving it shit.

[Mattopilos II]

I haven't played the game.
I am sorry if you somehow take things I never said to you to heart, but I don't really care.

> Keeps commenting about it.
> “I dOnT CArE!”

Okay so you haven’t played the game. Have you atleast watched let’s plays or walkthroughs about it? Because then you’ll see why people are giving it shit.

You are the one responding to things I haven’t mentioned you in directly, but I am enjoying your projection.

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I haven't played the game.
I am sorry if you somehow take things I never said to you to heart, but I don't really care.

> Keeps commenting about it.
> “I dOnT CArE!”

Okay so you haven’t played the game. Have you atleast watched let’s plays or walkthroughs about it? Because then you’ll see why people are giving it shit.

Could you offer at least one example so I don't have to spend more than an hour watching a LP looking for the evil SJW agenda?

[Ethel mermania]

People who think dogs are any way equal to cats. It's why reeducation camps were invented

[The New California Republic]

People who think dogs are any way equal to cats. It's why reeducation camps were invented

Yup, to reeducate people that dogs are not equal to cats, that dogs are in fact far superior.

[Dumb Ideologies]

It's not my opinion, I don't even play Wolfenstein. It was an example of what other people were complaining about.

Sound like some pretty petty things to complain about.

But eh, 'everyone's a critic', that's what they say, right?

"Diversity" rubs people up the wrong way if not done very subtly and with exceptional writing because it's an insurgent movement rather than every game starting from a state of zero in a cultural vacuum. Typically games have been fairly non-diverse and the gaming culture has been mostly populated and publicly represented by young-ish white guys. Because it's running counter to what's long been a prevailing current, consciously diverse storytelling stands out and examples will be very closely scrutinised for fault.

Gamers from this milieu are used to games being made from their perspective and worldview and when games make them constantly play as someone who doesn't resemble them and the narrative and storytelling feels "alien" to them it feels like something that's "their thing" is being stolen from them.

That might come across as childish or petulant to someone like you or me who either doesn't play games or has grown up playing games where there's not really anyone "like us" to play as and where the stories aren't written with our gaze in mind. But it's perfectly understandable that a deliberate program of trying to write more diverse roles may come across as "forced" when it's not what the community is used to or in many cases want, and particularly when its quite substantially driven by ideological pressure from outside of the community and media organisations telling gamers what they should want and that they're bigots if they don't.

Every ideologically-motivated move towards something is a move away from something else. Those who were more comfortable with the status quo ante will lash back against it, and this is all normal and not necessarily a sign of gaming being the den of scum and villainy that it's commonly derided as.

[Ethel mermania]

People who think dogs are any way equal to cats. It's why reeducation camps were invented

Yup, to reeducate people that dogs are not equal to cats, that dogs are in fact far superior.

Student #1 reporting for school I see. Welcome. The chairman will see you meow.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I watched a stream of wolfenstein 2, it looked just as over the top and silly as the new order did, a bit more so but i thought some of the complaining about it was silly but you do you

[The Blaatschapen]

People who think dogs are any way equal to cats. It's why reeducation camps were invented

A trivial squabble. Sheep are superior to both. It's like Americans and Canadians arguing over who has the best version of English.

[Mushet]

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