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What happens to Annie?

Death Sentence (I normally support the Death Sentence)
44
49%
Death Sentence (I normally do not support the Death Sentence but the other option is too Unjust)
11
12%
Life Sentence (I don't support the Death Sentence)
31
34%
Life Sentence (I support the existence of the Death Sentence but its not appropriate here, explain)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 90

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Cosmopolitan borovan
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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:36 am

Life

I don't trust Russians they'll just use her for a kgb project

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:37 am

Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:Life

I don't trust Russians they'll just use her for a kgb project

They would if the KGB still existed...
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:38 am

Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:Life

I don't trust Russians they'll just use her for a kgb project

Please, the Russians have known the secrets of magic since they faked the death of Rasputin.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:41 am

Ifreann wrote:
Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:Life

I don't trust Russians they'll just use her for a kgb project

Please, the Russians have known the secrets of magic since they faked the death of Rasputin.

Rasputin! That's who should have been the subject of this thread, not some nameless nobody...
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:47 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Please, the Russians have known the secrets of magic since they faked the death of Rasputin.

Rasputin! That's who should have been the subject of this thread, not some nameless nobody...

If nothing else we'd get more Boney M references.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:52 am

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Rasputin! That's who should have been the subject of this thread, not some nameless nobody...

If nothing else we'd get more Boney M references.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:42 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Is there like some greater story lore here?

Is every single IM thread a part of a greater story?

Are the mafia queen and this witch related???
>x-files song intensifies<


It’s possible since the antihero thread says it’s set in the future/alternate timeline.

They’re not related by blood. Annie is Norwegian while the Queen is from continental Europe.

The Mafia Queen would be ideologically sympathetic towards Annie’s cause but will play it safe. Being based in the USA and with the Americans on the Allied team the Mafia Queen wouldn’t risk a government crackdown by opening supporting the witch. However, she’d definitely want the Witch to win since they are both pro white.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:44 am

Heloin wrote:
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Oh so you mean realistically speaking there's no precedent for someone getting out after 21 years for the most serious crimes?

I actually don't know it would be interesting...

Yep, and no there is no way Hilter 2.0 would break that precedent. Hell Norway is more likely to pull a quisling and reinstitute the death penalty just for her then end it again.

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Are the mafia queen and this witch related???
>x-files song intensifies<

*sigh* Still a better crossover then Justice League.


Think I read somewhere that a normal/average Norwegian when interviewed about Breitvik said “that’s how it should work. If in 21 years he’s reformed he should be freed.”

Norway’s 21 year with parole chance might be more serious then you think. I think I read their whole system is founded on a rehabilitation ideology.

I’ll see if I can find the link...

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:53 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Are the mafia queen and this witch related???
>x-files song intensifies<


It’s possible since the antihero thread says it’s set in the future/alternate timeline.

They’re not related by blood. Annie is Norwegian while the Queen is from continental Europe.

What continent do you think Norway is in?
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Postby Heloin » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:01 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:Yep, and no there is no way Hilter 2.0 would break that precedent. Hell Norway is more likely to pull a quisling and reinstitute the death penalty just for her then end it again.


*sigh* Still a better crossover then Justice League.


Think I read somewhere that a normal/average Norwegian when interviewed about Breitvik said “that’s how it should work. If in 21 years he’s reformed he should be freed.”

Norway’s 21 year with parole chance might be more serious then you think. I think I read their whole system is founded on a rehabilitation ideology.

I’ll see if I can find the link...

Again pissing in the wind, there is the slimiest likelihood that Queenie Hitler 2.0 Mk3 will get released but it's not going to happen. And again Norway has the 21 years rule as a precedent to give people life in prison and has been using for quiet awhile now.. Breitvik will be in jail until he's old and grey and Hitler 2.0 over here has about the same chance of being executed in Norway as anywhere else. My argument isn't over what I or some random Norwegian think should happen, it's about what a prison sentence would look like.

Plus she probably would never make it to trial. For someone as awful as you created her end would probably happen to look like Ceaușescu's or Gaddafi's.

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
It’s possible since the antihero thread says it’s set in the future/alternate timeline.

They’re not related by blood. Annie is Norwegian while the Queen is from continental Europe.

What continent do you think Norway is in?

Zealandia.

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Postby Page » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:16 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Mafia Queen would be ideologically sympathetic towards Annie’s cause but will play it safe. Being based in the USA and with the Americans on the Allied team the Mafia Queen wouldn’t risk a government crackdown by opening supporting the witch. However, she’d definitely want the Witch to win since they are both pro white.


Is Annie the girl from the party who wants to use your shower, and did she become genocidal because of having to do the dance of shame at her evil school as a kid?
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Postby Second Empire of America » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:00 pm

Page wrote:I think the world would be better off without him and I would be happy to see him dead, but honestly I kind of admire the fact that Norway sticks to their principles even when it comes to the worst of people. Anders Brevik receives better treatment in Norway than someone in jail for unpaid parking tickets gets in America.

And that does seem outrageous, when you think of how he murdered all those kids and how he's certainly irredeemable, but Norway is showing that you can deal with crime without sadism.


I think the Norwegian justice system is a model that America should follow. The purpose of prisons should be public safety, not punishment. Imprisoning people effectively removes them as a threat, and mistreating prisoners doesn't make the public safer. The moral thing to do is to treat the prisoners well, while making it physically impossible for them to hurt anyone else.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:24 pm

Page wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Mafia Queen would be ideologically sympathetic towards Annie’s cause but will play it safe. Being based in the USA and with the Americans on the Allied team the Mafia Queen wouldn’t risk a government crackdown by opening supporting the witch. However, she’d definitely want the Witch to win since they are both pro white.


Is Annie the girl from the party who wants to use your shower, and did she become genocidal because of having to do the dance of shame at her evil school as a kid?


No that character is Quebecois

Annie is European 0_0

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Postby Heloin » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:28 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Page wrote:
Is Annie the girl from the party who wants to use your shower, and did she become genocidal because of having to do the dance of shame at her evil school as a kid?


No that character is Quebecois

Annie is European 0_0

You can't convince me of that. In my head canon they're all the same. All part of the Mushroomverse.

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Postby Dogmeat » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:32 pm

Unfortunately we're going to have to Exterminatus the entire planet for Heresy.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:33 pm

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Think I read somewhere that a normal/average Norwegian when interviewed about Breitvik said “that’s how it should work. If in 21 years he’s reformed he should be freed.”

Norway’s 21 year with parole chance might be more serious then you think. I think I read their whole system is founded on a rehabilitation ideology.

I’ll see if I can find the link...

Again pissing in the wind, there is the slimiest likelihood that Queenie Hitler 2.0 Mk3 will get released but it's not going to happen. And again Norway has the 21 years rule as a precedent to give people life in prison and has been using for quiet awhile now.. Breitvik will be in jail until he's old and grey and Hitler 2.0 over here has about the same chance of being executed in Norway as anywhere else. My argument isn't over what I or some random Norwegian think should happen, it's about what a prison sentence would look like.

Plus she probably would never make it to trial. For someone as awful as you created her end would probably happen to look like Ceaușescu's or Gaddafi's.

Ifreann wrote:What continent do you think Norway is in?

Zealandia.


It seems that the law has changed since Breivik.

From Wikipedia, unless there is better source:

There are three types of maximum penalty laws:

* The maximum penalty under the military penal code is life imprisonment.
* The maximum determinate penalty (civilian penal code) is 21 years' imprisonment, but only a small percentage of prisoners serve more than 14 years. Prisoners will typically get unsupervised parole for weekends after serving a third of their sentence (a maximum of 7 years) and can receive early release after serving two thirds of their sentence (a maximum of 14 years). In 2008, to fulfill its requirements under the [[Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court|Rome Statute]], Norway created a new maximal penalty of 30 years for [[crimes against humanity]].
* The indeterminate penalty (civilian penal code), called "preventive detention" (Norwegian: ''forvaring''), is set at up to 21 years' imprisonment, with no eligibility for parole for a time period not exceeding 10 years. If the prisoner is still considered dangerous after serving the original sentence, the detention can be extended by five years at a time. Renewal of the detention every five years can in theory result in ''actual'' life imprisonment. Preventive detention is used when the prisoner is deemed a danger to society and there is a great chance of his committing violent crimes in the future.However, after the minimum time period has elapsed, the offender can petition for parole once every year, and this may be granted if it is determined that he is no longer a danger to society.


So they do have a life imprisonment run by the military (irl she would probably get that).

However, the other 2 21 sentence gigs don’t sound very harsh, in fact, she could get out right?

Turn out like the Romanian dictator? Norway is not some developing country lol

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:34 pm

Split her in half, kill one half let the other half live the rest of its days in a cell
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:35 pm

Heloin wrote:
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No that character is Quebecois

Annie is European 0_0

You can't convince me of that. In my head canon they're all the same. All part of the Mushroomverse.


While there are similarities in the Mushroom verse in terms of the female antagonists, there are also striking differences.

Saying they are all the same is like saying all Disney girls are the same, under a microscope this does not hold...

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:36 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Split her in half, kill one half let the other half live the rest of its days in a cell


Then... she’s dead?

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Postby Dogmeat » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:37 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:You can't convince me of that. In my head canon they're all the same. All part of the Mushroomverse.


While there are similarities in the Mushroom verse in terms of the female antagonists, there are also striking differences.

Saying they are all the same is like saying all Disney girls are the same, under a microscope this does not hold...

Under a microscope it would be extremely hard to tell their cells apart. Your objection is nonsensical.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:37 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:You can't convince me of that. In my head canon they're all the same. All part of the Mushroomverse.


While there are similarities in the Mushroom verse in terms of the female antagonists, there are also striking differences.

Saying they are all the same is like saying all Disney girls are the same, under a microscope this does not hold...

I believe I’ve said this before but for how silly these are as hypoctheticals these would make for like a really baller anime
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:38 pm

Dogmeat wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
While there are similarities in the Mushroom verse in terms of the female antagonists, there are also striking differences.

Saying they are all the same is like saying all Disney girls are the same, under a microscope this does not hold...

Under a microscope it would be extremely hard to tell their cells apart. Your objection is nonsensical.


Whatever that expression is supposed to be

I’m not sure how it’s said

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:38 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Split her in half, kill one half let the other half live the rest of its days in a cell


Then... she’s dead?

Only 50% of her initially
The live half will serve a life sentence
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:40 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Then... she’s dead?

Only 50% of her initially
The live half will serve a life sentence


But why this atrocity?

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Postby Dogmeat » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:40 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Only 50% of her initially
The live half will serve a life sentence


But why this atrocity?

I ask that every time you create a new thread.
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