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Breastfeeding during a flight...
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:33 amby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/73877 ... -year-old/She continued: “She called me ‘disgusting’ followed by a litany of degrading swear words. Apparently she thought I was trying to steal her man by quietly breastfeeding my baby during the landing of the plane.
“Breastfeeding is natural, and our breasts were made for feeding our babies. Associating breastfeeding with sex or perversion is disturbing.”
It seems reasonable enough to consider the remarks uncalled for, though the airline is under no obligation to censor them. But what seems a little less reasonable is to have a problem with associating it with sex. Yes, breastfeeding is "natural." However, sex is also "natural." Including promiscuous sex. Why would anyone put it past evolution to have males respond to evidence of successful childbirth by wanting to give her another baby, and in turn, getting aroused? Can we really be sure
that's any less "natural?" And if we can't, isn't it a little hypocritical to treat how "natural" one is relevant, and not the other?
And how often are women shamed for breastfeeding during a flight, compared to being shamed for bringing their infants on board the airplane at all? We all know that the one person who brings an infant, if the infant starts screaming, has made it a lot more stressful for hundreds of people, (if not also keeping them from the sleep they might've needed before landing) whereas if she'd just do a train or cruise, others could avoid the noise more easily...
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:35 amby Ifreann
Ban aeroplanes.
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:42 amby The Blaatschapen
Ifreann wrote:Ban aeroplanes.
Correct solution but for a different problem. That will work wonders for CO2 reduction.
The solution here is to desexualize beasts. This we do by making them a common occurrence in our daily lives rather than something taboo.
Advertising might be a good start.
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:44 amby Ifreann
The blAAtschApen wrote:Ifreann wrote:Ban aeroplanes.
Correct solution but for a different problem. That will work wonders for CO2 reduction.
The solution here is to desexualize beasts. This we do by making them a common occurrence in our daily lives rather than something taboo.
Advertising might be a good start.
Advertiddies.
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:46 amby Scottish Socialists
The blAAtschApen wrote:Ifreann wrote:Ban aeroplanes.
Correct solution but for a different problem. That will work wonders for CO2 reduction.
The solution here is to desexualize beasts. This we do by making them a common occurrence in our daily lives rather than something taboo.
Advertising might be a good start.
Hey, you!
Yes, you!
Look at these!
Are they sexual?
No!
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:46 amby Costa Fierro
Just ban children on aircraft. Problem solved.
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:48 amby Vincere Terrae
just ban children outright
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:50 amby The Huskar Social Union
Ifreann wrote:Ban aeroplanes.
Ban areola's
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:50 amby LiberNovusAmericae
Well, that sucks.
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:51 amby Dumb Ideologies
Drop both mother and baby out of an emergency hatch.
I'm okay with seeing tits flying, not with them hanging out on a plane.
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:52 amby The Objectivist Commonwealth
The blAAtschApen wrote:Ifreann wrote:Ban aeroplanes.
Correct solution but for a different problem. That will work wonders for CO2 reduction.
The solution here is to
desexualize beasts. This we do by making them a common occurrence in our daily lives rather than something taboo.
Advertising might be a good start.
Wow there.
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:52 amby Scottish Socialists
Costa Fierro wrote:Just ban children on aircraft. Problem solved.
”Please place all hand luggage and children under the age of 6 in the overhead locker.”In all seriousness, parents should make sure their kids are under control at all times, and if they wanna breastfeed, then do it in the bathroom, at this point in time.
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:54 amby Caracasus
Taking a dump is natural, though we'd be rather surprised if someone did it on an airplane seat. Blowing your nose? also natural and in many cultures OK to do in public provided you actually catch the snot... Eating is fine, and natural. Ditto drinking. If "breastfeeding is natural" was literally the only argument for allowing it in public places, it'd be a very silly argument indeed.
Drawing a false equivalence between one natural act and another is a bit pointless whatever the argument, and it's never really one I've seen people who argue that breastfeeding should be allowed in public make unless you strip what they are saying of all context. I think you might be fundamentally misunderstanding the whole "breastfeeding is natural" thing and oversimplifying it, removing it from context.
As far as I understand it, the argument is that breasts are primarily there to feed babies, what with us being mammals and all. The association of breasts as sexual objects is secondary, and largely cultural (i.e. not rooted in some form of biological need) With that in mind, the argument rather goes that a biological need to feed a baby trumps cultural sensitivity over catching a little bit more of a glimpse of someone's boob than you'd otherwise expect.
So yeah, I don't get the fuss over breastfeeding myself. I'm frankly astounded that anyone would have an issue around breastfeeding a baby on a plane of all places. Babies tend to get very angry and very loud if they're not fed; it's far better for everyone if they are.
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:57 amby Bombadil
I fly a lot, more than I’d like to.. and anyone who cares for their comfort over a baby that doesn’t have control over their emotions is a dick - parents fly for multiple reasons, seeing family or just a break.. for what is at most a 13 hour flight but more usually 2-3 hours, for which a baby is rarely an issue the whole flight, anyone with an attitude.. I’ve called them out on occasion.
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:05 amby Napkiraly
It should be a non-issue. Also not every destination can be reached by train or ship, so that is an unrealistic expectation of families with babies. Babies cry, get the fuck over it.
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:05 amby Ethel mermania
Baby's have a tough time with the pressure changes from altitude changes. Sucking helps equalize the pressure in their ear canals and makes flight less painful to them, and hence others as they don't scream as much. If anything breast feeding on planes should be encouraged.
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:09 amby Trumptonium1
Babies shouldn't be allowed on flights. Also fat people should pay for two seats.
Society is broken.
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:10 amby Thermodolia
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ifreann wrote:Ban aeroplanes.
Ban areola's
Ban air
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:11 amby Bombadil
Trumptonium1 wrote:Babies shouldn't be allowed on flights. Also fat people should pay for two seats.
Society is broken.
At least, for once, don’t be so boring.
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:12 amby Trumptonium1
Bombadil wrote:Trumptonium1 wrote:Babies shouldn't be allowed on flights. Also fat people should pay for two seats.
Society is broken.
At least, for once, don’t be so boring.
Hearing a baby cry for hours on end is so fun alright
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:12 amby Right wing humour squad
Costa Fierro wrote:Just ban children on aircraft. Problem solved.
This.
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:13 amby Dumb Ideologies
Another vote for banning babies on flights.
Breastfeeding on a plane
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:13 amby Junobal
I'm fine with it. I'll give opponents the benefit of the doubt, and say that it's not the most pleasant sight; however, here's my take on the subject. It's a completely natural process, and female breasts were made to feed their offspring. There are women who have periods unexpectedly. Is arresting them for indecency the right way to respond? I didn't think so! Besides, we breasts everywhere these days, so there should be no issue with breastfeeding.
Posted:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:14 amby Bombadil
Trumptonium1 wrote:Bombadil wrote:At least, for once, don’t be so boring.
Hearing a baby cry for hours on end is so fun alright
Yes, the world is about you.. it’s a whole lot less misery than the baby, the parents and everyone who gets to to view your judgementalism have to suffer.
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:14 amby Chuukango
Thermodolia wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ban areola's
Ban air
Bruh just ban biology that way mothers
don’t have to breastfeed their kids.
Or something like that I won’t pretend to know what I’m talking about (unlike most NSers)