Breastfeeding during a flight...

[Bombadil]

Are you implying that the intentions of the parent in taking their baby with them makes absolutely any mitigating difference at all to the consequences and thus the common sense resolutions?

Take a car. Nobody can hear the kid there. Apart from you, but then that kid was your choice to make, not society's. Why should other people suffer your child's screams?

When adults scream on a flight, be it mental illness or drunkenness, they are taken off the flight by the police, including mid-flight stops. In many airlines, they are prevented from entering in the first place. Why shouldn't that be extended to toddlers and newborns?

If you could find a way to harness all that indignation you could probably heat your house for free.

To each according to their ability.. he’s really a communist at heart..

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

What you described is not equivalent to this situation.

A 'dump' is physical. A baby crying is a sound.

A 'dump' is unsanitary and will have health risks involved. A baby crying is just annoying. But it is not a threat to your body.

Besides, why should airlines loose profits from people with young families not buying a ticket?

That hurts the economy, it hurts the company, it hurts the employees. Why should business lose profits beacuse you want to restrict air travel business rights?

I thought you where Reals>Feels. Guess not sense you being annoyed for a few hours is so important to you over the lives that depend on young families flying.

It is a threat to your health if you are triggered by high pitched sounds. Some people have PTSD remember?

I thought you liberals were all about protecting people from being triggered.

Clapping is too loud so we must resort to jazz hands but a single mother being unable to control her demon spawn is just an okay 100-decibel inconvenience that must be suffered by all?

Nice referencing to arguments that I'm not making. Never said I want to ban clapping, and as a matter of fact I don't want to.

People who have PTSD most likely have earplugs. Buy some earplugs. They range from 10$-30$.

Also, still no explanation for why you want to hurt business profits other then "muh feelings of annoyince".

[Caracasus]

Why would anyone put it past evolution to have males respond to evidence of successful childbirth by wanting to give her another baby, and in turn, getting aroused? Can we really be sure that's any less "natural?" And if we can't, isn't it a little hypocritical to treat how "natural" one is relevant, and not the other?

So what if someone in the vicinity does find breastfeeding arousing? It's not being done for their benefit.

Never got why people bring this up either. If someone's getting a stiffy from watching breastfeeding, then I'd really hope that they'd realise that the correct way to respond would be to think about something really boring till things settle down rather than bitch about it online.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

I read the title as Breastfeeding during a fight. Really need new glasses.

I have no problem with breastfeeding, or babies screaming, or children in general. Maybe just charge people a premium if they want to go on flights without children.

[Trumptonium1]

Take a car. Nobody can hear the kid there. Apart from you, but then that kid was your choice to make, not society's. Why should other people suffer your child's screams?

Aye pal, let them drive from Heathrow to Tenerife. That’ll solve the problem.

There's a tunnel to France and a ferry to Tenerife. No need to thank me, just a quick google search is satisfactory. Although one might ask why you're taking a newborn there in the first place?

People drive from Alaska to Argentina and from London to Sydney and from Cape Town to Paris all the time.

Look, babies on planes are annoying.
Either that parent can silence them with a game, a toy, or sleep, or you can plug in your headphones or earplugs and blissfully be unaware of the crying child.

Just deal with it.

Or we can ban them from flights. No need to inconvenience the majority for the benefit of a minority.

I like the latter option.

[Uan aa Boa]

No need to heat my house for free, I already found a way to substitute sleeping for liberal tear consumption as my primary source of energy.

I guess you like liberal baiting, but you seem to find so many things actionably insufferable that the word snowflake does kinda spring to mind.

Never got why people bring this up either. If someone's getting a stiffy from watching breastfeeding, then I'd really hope that they'd realise that the correct way to respond would be to think about something really boring till things settle down rather than bitch about it online.

At a societal level we seem to spend loads of time demanding more exposed breasts punctuated by short bursts of demanding fewer. You'll have spotted the irony of this being started by a Sun article.

[The Free Joy State]

So what if someone in the vicinity does find breastfeeding arousing? It's not being done for their benefit.

Never got why people bring this up either. If someone's getting a stiffy from watching breastfeeding, then I'd really hope that they'd realise that the correct way to respond would be to think about something really boring till things settle down rather than bitch about it online.

Apparently, the complainant in this instance was a woman, who called the breastfeeding woman "disgusting" and accused her of trying to lure her man away.

Frankly, this speaks to the woman's lack of security in her relationship, if she thinks that one glimpse of lactating bosom will draw her husband/boyfriend/etc. away. It also speaks of the woman who complained needing something to do on the plane. Perhaps a good book or magazine to read?

[Caracasus]

No need to heat my house for free, I already found a way to substitute sleeping for liberal tear consumption as my primary source of energy.

I guess you like liberal baiting, but you seem to find so many things actionably insufferable that the word snowflake does kinda spring to mind.

At a societal level we seem to spend loads of time demanding more exposed breasts punctuated by short bursts of demanding fewer. You'll have spotted the irony of this being started by a Sun article.

The sun's a weird one. Banging on about pedoes in the same paper that boasted about how young Sam Fox was when they got her to model topless. One of these days I reckon we'll discover that the head offices are just a portal to some inter dimensional sewerage system.

[Dumb Ideologies]

It's some Twilight Zone level shit when we cheer parents bringing their brat along into a scenario where it is likely to cause a greater number of people than them discomfort and inconvenience, deride the uninvolved people who suffer said consequences as being selfish if they complain, and hiss that the victims should have prepared for the eventuality at their own expense.

[Trumptonium1]

No need to heat my house for free, I already found a way to substitute sleeping for liberal tear consumption as my primary source of energy.

I guess you like liberal baiting, but you seem to find so many things actionably insufferable that the word snowflake does kinda spring to mind.

Don't think the concept of snowflake applies to people who long for a return to the distant past of 2005 when people had more brains and were more considerate. Thanks Obama.

[Valrifell]

I guess you like liberal baiting, but you seem to find so many things actionably insufferable that the word snowflake does kinda spring to mind.

Don't think the concept of snowflake applies to people who long for a return to the distant past of 2005 when people had more brains and were more considerate. Thanks Obama.

I'm surprised you actually found a way to work liberal bait that reply.

[Scottish Socialists]

Aye pal, let them drive from Heathrow to Tenerife. That’ll solve the problem.

There's a tunnel to France and a ferry to Tenerife. No need to thank me, just a quick google search is satisfactory. Although one might ask why you're taking a newborn there in the first place?

People drive from Alaska to Argentina and from London to Sydney and from Cape Town to Paris all the time.

Look, babies on planes are annoying.
Either that parent can silence them with a game, a toy, or sleep, or you can plug in your headphones or earplugs and blissfully be unaware of the crying child.

Just deal with it.

Or we can ban them from flights. No need to inconvenience the majority for the benefit of a minority.

I like the latter option.

Aye, driving from Heathrow to Tenerife takes 60 hours.
The flight takes 4 hours.
For a weeks holiday, 3 days are spent getting there, and 3 getting back.
What’s even the point then?

Besides, people bring their kids on holiday when they go on holiday, because, funnily enough, babies enjoy holidays as well.
And babysitters are expensive, yo.
Just fly.

[Caracasus]

Eh, let's face it in an ideal world planes would have more room and more ability to (for example) lay on quiet sections and family sections. We'd also have better and cheaper public transport and it wouldn't cost three times as much to take the train as it would to fly.

However we don't. So it's probably an idea to invest in a set of headphones and something decent to listen to/watch if you're planning to fly if you don't have a kid to take with you and a big bag of toys and shiny distractions if you do.

[Uan aa Boa]

Don't think the concept of snowflake applies to people who long for a return to the distant past of 2005 when people had more brains and were more considerate. Thanks Obama.

Pretty sure people travelled with kids and breastfed in public before 2005. Fairly sure Obama does neither. As for considerate, you appear to be the one who finds your fellow humans challenging to be around without reaching for the ban hammer.

Maybe I just don't spend enough time in NSG.

[Ethel mermania]

So what if someone in the vicinity does find breastfeeding arousing? It's not being done for their benefit.

Never got why people bring this up either. If someone's getting a stiffy from watching breastfeeding, then I'd really hope that they'd realise that the correct way to respond would be to think about something really boring till things settle down rather than bitch about it online.

Weird. And would think a "thank you" would be a more appropriate response.

[Heloin]

People drive from Alaska to Argentina and from London to Sydney and from Cape Town to Paris all the time.

Driving from Alaska to Argentina is currently mostly impossible, London to Sydney is also an impossible drive. Cape Town to Paris, that's alot of war zones to drive through with a baby. Maybe you should wear earplugs on the plane?

[Ifreann]

It's some Twilight Zone level shit when we cheer parents bringing their brat along into a scenario where it is likely to cause a greater number of people than them discomfort and inconvenience, deride the uninvolved people who suffer said consequences as being selfish if they complain, and hiss that the victims should have prepared for the eventuality at their own expense.

Yes, the crazy people are the ones who think we should just put up with babies on planes, not the guy who think that someone should drive for 59 hours rather than cause him minimal discomfort on a flight.

[Caracasus]

Don't think the concept of snowflake applies to people who long for a return to the distant past of 2005 when people had more brains and were more considerate. Thanks Obama.

Pretty sure people travelled with kids and breastfed in public before 2005. Fairly sure Obama does neither. As for considerate, you appear to be the one who finds your fellow humans challenging to be around without reaching for the ban hammer.

Maybe I just don't spend enough time in NSG.

Obama invented breastfeeding and travelling. Before that, humans reproduced by laying eggs on the beach and waiting for them to hatch before they made their long journey to the open ocean. Not by airplane either.

[The Holy Therns]

Buy some earplugs before going on a flight.

Problem solved.

Get everyone else to buy precautionary earplugs rather than not letting babies on the flight? Nah.

At the very least, fine the parents sufficient to provide complimentary earplugs for the next half dozen rows, plus a substantial administration fee.

What an appropriately childish attitude.

[Dumb Ideologies]

It's some Twilight Zone level shit when we cheer parents bringing their brat along into a scenario where it is likely to cause a greater number of people than them discomfort and inconvenience, deride the uninvolved people who suffer said consequences as being selfish if they complain, and hiss that the victims should have prepared for the eventuality at their own expense.

Yes, the crazy people are the ones who think we should just put up with babies on planes, not the guy who think that someone should drive for 59 hours rather than cause him minimal discomfort on a flight.

Screaming baby next to you is not "minimal" discomfort but glad to see you've come to agree with my position Iffy.

At the moment our team is going for fines and compensation as a transitional demand rather than going straight to the right to pick up the baby and whack the parents about the face with it, but we're seeing how the conversation goes.

[Trumptonium1]

There's a tunnel to France and a ferry to Tenerife. No need to thank me, just a quick google search is satisfactory. Although one might ask why you're taking a newborn there in the first place?

People drive from Alaska to Argentina and from London to Sydney and from Cape Town to Paris all the time.



Or we can ban them from flights. No need to inconvenience the majority for the benefit of a minority.

I like the latter option.

Aye, driving from Heathrow to Tenerife takes 60 hours.
The flight takes 4 hours.
For a weeks holiday, 3 days are spent getting there, and 3 getting back.
What’s even the point then?

Besides, people bring their kids on holiday when they go on holiday, because, funnily enough, babies enjoy holidays as well.
And babysitters are expensive, yo.
Just fly.

If someone is taking their newborn to Tenerife then that is a good signal their child needs to be taken away from them before they become an utterly insufferable spoilt brat. Holiday from what? From sitting at home?

Unless I am missing something here and you're not talking about newborns. But if someone still has a screaming and crying child - let alone breastfed - at age three plus they also need to be immediately taken into care by the state. Clearly failed parenting.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Get everyone else to buy precautionary earplugs rather than not letting babies on the flight? Nah.

At the very least, fine the parents sufficient to provide complimentary earplugs for the next half dozen rows, plus a substantial administration fee.

What an appropriately childish attitude.

Waah. I hope you're not criticising, that'd be very selfish

[The Holy Therns]

What an appropriately childish attitude.

Waah. I hope you're not criticising, that'd be very selfish

Wow. You sure showed me. I feel so discredited. This is totally the same thing.

[Ifreann]

Yes, the crazy people are the ones who think we should just put up with babies on planes, not the guy who think that someone should drive for 59 hours rather than cause him minimal discomfort on a flight.

Screaming baby next to you is not "minimal" discomfort but glad to see you've come to agree with my position Iffy.

Compared to the inconvenience of driving a route one would otherwise fly, it very much is.

At the moment our team is going for fines and compensation as a transitional demand rather than going straight to the right to pick up the baby and whack the parents about the face with it, but we're seeing how the conversation goes.

Or we can ban them from flights. No need to inconvenience the majority for the benefit of a minority.

[Hammer Britannia]

Ban Brest

Screw the city and the female organ