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by Dumb Ideologies » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:17 am
by Ifreann » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:18 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Another vote for banning babies on flights.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:19 am
by Bombadil » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:19 am
by Trumptonium1 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:21 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:22 am
by Bombadil » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:24 am
Trumptonium1 wrote:Bombadil wrote:
Yes, the world is about you.. it’s a whole lot less misery than the baby, the parents and everyone who gets to to view your judgementalism have to suffer.
Unfortunately for you and other inconsiderate and impertinent people, the world is indeed not about you, because there's people around you. Want to do whatever it is you want? Buy a wheat field and live in it. To participate in a civilised society, civilised behaviour and an ounce of respect for others is a prerequisite.
by The Free Joy State » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:25 am
by Trumptonium1 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:26 am
by Ifreann » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:27 am
The Free Joy State wrote:I don't get why anyone makes a fuss over breastfeeding. Parents need to travel for various reasons; they can't leave the baby. I'd have thought most people would find a fed, calm baby preferable to a hungry, crying baby.Ifreann wrote:Boring solution. Free sedatives on flights for people who don't have babies.
Free solution: Don't sit, staring at women who are breastfeeding.
Most mothers I've met are incredibly discrete. It's not like they get their boobs out, attach tassels and do a floorshow.
by Ethel mermania » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:27 am
The Free Joy State wrote:I don't get why anyone makes a fuss over breastfeeding. Parents need to travel for various reasons; they can't leave the baby. I'd have thought most people would find a fed, calm baby preferable to a hungry, crying baby.Ifreann wrote:Boring solution. Free sedatives on flights for people who don't have babies.
Free solution: Don't sit, staring at women who are breastfeeding.
Most mothers I've met are incredibly discrete. It's not like they get their boobs out, attach tassels and do a floorshow.
by Caracasus » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:30 am
by Dumb Ideologies » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:31 am
by Uan aa Boa » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:34 am
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Why would anyone put it past evolution to have males respond to evidence of successful childbirth by wanting to give her another baby, and in turn, getting aroused? Can we really be sure that's any less "natural?" And if we can't, isn't it a little hypocritical to treat how "natural" one is relevant, and not the other?
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:36 am
by Bombadil » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:37 am
by Trumptonium1 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:37 am
Caracasus wrote:Trumptonium1 wrote:
I encourage people to take a dump on your plane seat. It's a natural human function. Buy a poncho if this is of inconvenience to you.
Problem solved.
I'm actually quite impressed that you've managed to draw an identical false equivalence in an argument that I actually used to highlight the stupidity of using false equivalences in said arguments in an earlier post....
Caracasus wrote:It's always funny watching people complain about parents taking their kids more or less anywhere. Parents don't much like hearing their kids screaming at the top of their lungs either, and generally try and do things to stop that happening. I get there's probably a few outliers there, but most people aren't taking a 6 month old on a flight for shits and giggles and they're certainly not going to be just sitting back and letting the little hobgoblin scream the place down.
by Trumptonium1 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:39 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Trumptonium1 wrote:
I encourage people to take a dump on your plane seat. It's a natural human function. Buy a poncho if this is of inconvenience to you.
Problem solved.
What you described is not equivalent to this situation.
A 'dump' is physical. A baby crying is a sound.
A 'dump' is unsanitary and will have health risks involved. A baby crying is just annoying. But it is not a threat to your body.
Besides, why should airlines loose profits from people with young families not buying a ticket?
That hurts the economy, it hurts the company, it hurts the employees. Why should business lose profits beacuse you want to restrict air travel business rights?
I thought you where Reals>Feels. Guess not sense you being annoyed for a few hours is so important to you over the lives that depend on young families flying.
by Uan aa Boa » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:41 am
Trumptonium1 wrote:Are you implying that the intentions of the parent in taking their baby with them makes absolutely any mitigating difference at all to the consequences and thus the common sense resolutions?
Take a car. Nobody can hear the kid there. Apart from you, but then that kid was your choice to make, not society's. Why should other people suffer your child's screams?
When adults scream on a flight, be it mental illness or drunkenness, they are taken off the flight by the police, including mid-flight stops. In many airlines, they are prevented from entering in the first place. Why shouldn't that be extended to toddlers and newborns?
by Trumptonium1 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:44 am
Uan aa Boa wrote:Trumptonium1 wrote:Are you implying that the intentions of the parent in taking their baby with them makes absolutely any mitigating difference at all to the consequences and thus the common sense resolutions?
Take a car. Nobody can hear the kid there. Apart from you, but then that kid was your choice to make, not society's. Why should other people suffer your child's screams?
When adults scream on a flight, be it mental illness or drunkenness, they are taken off the flight by the police, including mid-flight stops. In many airlines, they are prevented from entering in the first place. Why shouldn't that be extended to toddlers and newborns?
If you could find a way to harness all that indignation you could probably heat your house for free.
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by Caracasus » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:45 am
Trumptonium1 wrote:Caracasus wrote:
I'm actually quite impressed that you've managed to draw an identical false equivalence in an argument that I actually used to highlight the stupidity of using false equivalences in said arguments in an earlier post....
What a wonderful coincidence that both of us used an appropriate analogy to describe the gradual breakdown of a basic level of decency in society.
Caracasus wrote:It's always funny watching people complain about parents taking their kids more or less anywhere. Parents don't much like hearing their kids screaming at the top of their lungs either, and generally try and do things to stop that happening. I get there's probably a few outliers there, but most people aren't taking a 6 month old on a flight for shits and giggles and they're certainly not going to be just sitting back and letting the little hobgoblin scream the place down.
Are you implying that the intentions of the parent in taking their baby with them makes absolutely any mitigating difference at all to the consequences and thus the common sense resolutions?
Take a car. Nobody can hear the kid there. Apart from you, but then that kid was your choice to make, not society's. Why should other people suffer your child's screams?
When adults scream on a flight, be it mental illness or drunkenness, they are taken off the flight by the police, including mid-flight stops. In many airlines, they are prevented from entering in the first place. Why shouldn't that be extended to toddlers and newborns?
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