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by Dahon » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:18 am
by Olerand » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:21 am
Dahon wrote:Criticism of Israeli government policy or societal customs does not automatically equate to a desire for Holocaust. The Israeli government cannot hide its evils and mistakes behind that monstrous and appalling crime. How difficult is it to grasp that?
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:22 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Time for NZ to invade Israel.
by Page » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:23 am
by The Batorys » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:24 am
Ardoki wrote:The Batorys wrote:You realize that Arabs are also Semitic, right?
Anti-semitism is hatred of Jews. That is the definition.
Why are you trying to redefine it? Are you a Holocaust denier?
EDIT: https://thegerasites.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/you-know-what-it-means-so-why-are-you-bullshitting/
by Bakery Hill » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:25 am
The Batorys wrote:Ardoki wrote:Anti-semitism is hatred of Jews. That is the definition.
Why are you trying to redefine it? Are you a Holocaust denier?
EDIT: https://thegerasites.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/you-know-what-it-means-so-why-are-you-bullshitting/
I'm not, no. "Anti-semitism" in a European context makes sense, but it really doesn't in the context of the middle east.
So you're an apartheid supporter then?
by Olerand » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:25 am
Page wrote:Hopefully New Zealand ignores this farce altogether. Even one of its own courts so much as taking the time to consider the question of whether they should enforce such a bullshit scarce tactic against its own citizens would be an outrage.
But while I still expect sanity from New Zealand, I'm not sure what to expect if this happens to an American next, considering that both major parties seem to support criminalizing calling for a boycott of Israel despite how unconstitutional that would be. And we have already seen unconstitutional measures, like hurricane victims being told they needed to sign a pledge that they won't boycott Israel so they could receive aid.
Is there a greater sense of entitlement anywhere on Earth than that of Israel's government? Obama gave them 80 billion dollars but Netenyahu talked about him like Obama took a shit in his breakfast cereal. This is just another example, but it's not going to work out well for them, people are seeing that Israel is governed by despicable people. And as an American, I know what that's like.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by The Batorys » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:26 am
Dahon wrote:Criticism of Israeli government policy or societal customs does not automatically equate to a desire for Holocaust. The Israeli government cannot hide its evils and mistakes behind that monstrous and appalling crime. How difficult is it to grasp that?
by The Batorys » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:27 am
Olerand wrote:Dahon wrote:Criticism of Israeli government policy or societal customs does not automatically equate to a desire for Holocaust. The Israeli government cannot hide its evils and mistakes behind that monstrous and appalling crime. How difficult is it to grasp that?
Well, when the critics are overflowing with things to say about Israel, but are silent on the many, many other regimes worth criticizing in this region of the world alone... It does get a little suspicious.
But yes, criticism of the Israeli government and State (separate from "anti-zionism", which seeks to see Israel disappear from the map) is not inherently antisemitic.
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:28 am
Empire of Narnia wrote:They should pay the fine and apologize. These boycotts are antisemitic attacks.
Right wing humour squad wrote:Good for Israel. Just because some people in NZ bought the insurgent propaganda doesn’t mean that they should be exempt from the harm the Jordanian insurgency has caused.
People are only going to stop pushing this “Palestinian” nonsense when they get fined for doing so.
by Olerand » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:30 am
The Batorys wrote:Olerand wrote:Well, when the critics are overflowing with things to say about Israel, but are silent on the many, many other regimes worth criticizing in this region of the world alone... It does get a little suspicious.
But yes, criticism of the Israeli government and State (separate from "anti-zionism", which seeks to see Israel disappear from the map) is not inherently antisemitic.
I don't like the Israeli government or its policies.
But that is also true of my own government.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Page » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:30 am
by Page » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:32 am
Olerand wrote:The Batorys wrote:I don't like the Israeli government or its policies.
But that is also true of my own government.
Which is fine. As long as you don't solely criticize Israel but "forget" the rest of the region; or even better, make excuses for them. Many people, unfortunately, fall into this category.
by The Batorys » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:33 am
Olerand wrote:The Batorys wrote:I don't like the Israeli government or its policies.
But that is also true of my own government.
Which is fine. As long as you don't solely criticize Israel but "forget" the rest of the region; or even better, make excuses for them. Many people, unfortunately, fall into this category.
by Bakery Hill » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:33 am
by The Batorys » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:34 am
Page wrote:Right wing humour squad wrote:
For promoting insurgent propaganda. It’s fine to believe and state your belief in it, but it’s criminal or should be to act upon it.
Is calling for a boycott not an example of stating one's beliefs? Does one not have the free speech to say "don't economically support these people"?
That reminds me how my father, a lifelong Fox News viewer, still has a Boycott France shirt from 2003. Don't know how old you are but back when in the Iraq War started, Bill O'Reilly called for a boycott of France for not enthusiastically supporting the American invasion of Iraq. There was even this whole silly thing with "Freedom fries." So I wonder, is France entitled to damages from Bill O'Reilly? Is France entitled to damages from my father and countless other Fox News watching Americans who wore these Boycott France t-shirts?
by Right wing humour squad » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:34 am
Page wrote:Right wing humour squad wrote:
For promoting insurgent propaganda. It’s fine to believe and state your belief in it, but it’s criminal or should be to act upon it.
Is calling for a boycott not an example of stating one's beliefs? Does one not have the free speech to say "don't economically support these people"?
That reminds me how my father, a lifelong Fox News viewer, still has a Boycott France shirt from 2003. Don't know how old you are but back when in the Iraq War started, Bill O'Reilly called for a boycott of France for not enthusiastically supporting the American invasion of Iraq. There was even this whole silly thing with "Freedom fries." So I wonder, is France entitled to damages from Bill O'Reilly? Is France entitled to damages from my father and countless other Fox News watching Americans who wore these Boycott France t-shirts?
by Olerand » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:37 am
Page wrote:Right wing humour squad wrote:
For promoting insurgent propaganda. It’s fine to believe and state your belief in it, but it’s criminal or should be to act upon it.
Is calling for a boycott not an example of stating one's beliefs? Does one not have the free speech to say "don't economically support these people"?
That reminds me how my father, a lifelong Fox News viewer, still has a Boycott France shirt from 2003. Don't know how old you are but back when in the Iraq War started, Bill O'Reilly called for a boycott of France for not enthusiastically supporting the American invasion of Iraq. There was even this whole silly thing with "Freedom fries." So I wonder, is France entitled to damages from Bill O'Reilly? Is France entitled to damages from my father and countless other Fox News watching Americans who wore these Boycott France t-shirts?
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by The Batorys » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:37 am
Olerand wrote:Page wrote:
Is calling for a boycott not an example of stating one's beliefs? Does one not have the free speech to say "don't economically support these people"?
That reminds me how my father, a lifelong Fox News viewer, still has a Boycott France shirt from 2003. Don't know how old you are but back when in the Iraq War started, Bill O'Reilly called for a boycott of France for not enthusiastically supporting the American invasion of Iraq. There was even this whole silly thing with "Freedom fries." So I wonder, is France entitled to damages from Bill O'Reilly? Is France entitled to damages from my father and countless other Fox News watching Americans who wore these Boycott France t-shirts?
If only we could be... That would be the world...
Anyway, BDS is illegal in France.
by Olerand » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:39 am
The Batorys wrote:Olerand wrote:Which is fine. As long as you don't solely criticize Israel but "forget" the rest of the region; or even better, make excuses for them. Many people, unfortunately, fall into this category.
This thread, however, is about the actions of the Israeli government, not the rest of the region.
I said some pretty mean things about Saudi Arabia just yesterday, though.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Saranidia » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:40 am
by Caracasus » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:40 am
Right wing humour squad wrote:Page wrote:
Is calling for a boycott not an example of stating one's beliefs? Does one not have the free speech to say "don't economically support these people"?
That reminds me how my father, a lifelong Fox News viewer, still has a Boycott France shirt from 2003. Don't know how old you are but back when in the Iraq War started, Bill O'Reilly called for a boycott of France for not enthusiastically supporting the American invasion of Iraq. There was even this whole silly thing with "Freedom fries." So I wonder, is France entitled to damages from Bill O'Reilly? Is France entitled to damages from my father and countless other Fox News watching Americans who wore these Boycott France t-shirts?
If they had made a Facebook post stating she shouldn’t yeah. But they sent a letter to get her to not. It’s the act that’s a crime, not the statement.
by Olerand » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:41 am
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Olerand » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:42 am
Saranidia wrote:Israeli imperialism is being spread from the Middle East to the pacific.
Allahu Akbar!
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Page » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:42 am
Olerand wrote:Anyway, BDS is illegal in France.
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